Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive sorting question

2006-06-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:06 PM -0700 2006-06-10, Mark Sapiro wrote:

  I think I prefer something like

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  # Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]

  Any other thoughts/examples/opinions?

Now that I've seen the options, I like your idea best.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive sorting question

2006-06-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote:

At 8:06 PM -0700 2006-06-10, Mark Sapiro wrote:

  I think I prefer something like

  # Previous message (by thread): [Mailman-Users] Mailman Delivery Issue
  # Next message (by thread): [Mailman-Users] Members list settings
  # Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]

  Any other thoughts/examples/opinions?

   Now that I've seen the options, I like your idea best.


It seems unanimous so I've committed the change in the Subversion trunk
for Mailman 2.2.

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[Mailman-Users] newbie: Who is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-11 Thread onesir mail
Hi,

My apologies in advance if this proves to be a silly question - please 
point me to the silly answer.

I have used cPanel X to set up a couple of one-way announcement 
mailing lists using mailman.  I have no problems with the general 
operation of mailman.

The mailman generated domain mailing lists page contains the following 
line:- 

If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (where domain is my own domain)

I have sent mail to this address but it seems to be lost in a black 
hole.  By default all unknown address e-mails sent to my domain end up 
in the webmaster inbox.

Does anyone know where mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is routed?

Regards,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie: Who is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
onesir mail wrote:

If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (where domain is my own domain)

I have sent mail to this address but it seems to be lost in a black 
hole.  By default all unknown address e-mails sent to my domain end up 
in the webmaster inbox.

Does anyone know where mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is routed?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the site list for your mailman installation. It
is required that you have this list. In addition to being mentioned on
listinfo pages as you quote above, it is also the 'source' of password
reminders and certain other Mailman generated messages. This list
exists at your site or Mailman wouldn't run. You can see it's listinfo
page at something like http:/domain.com/mailman/listinfo/mailman and
you can administer it at http:/domain.com/mailman/admin/mailman
although at least initially, you'll probably need the site password to
log in.

The owner of this list should be set to the Mailman site administrator
who should also be a member of the list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Members list settings

2006-06-11 Thread John W. Baxter
On 6/9/06 5:10 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I like the latter idea which would allow, in the example of chunk size
 = 30, for a list of 31 to 60 members to be displayed in two pages
 rather than 20 or more. This can make it more difficult to find a
 particular member in a large list, but the 'Find member' function is
 probably better for this anyway.
 
 Other thoughts?

I just put a supporting comment into the related RFE (782436).

However, we need to remember that we got to where we are because people
didn't like the old (1.0.x) way of doing this.  The page size choice might
have been the better way to fix that.

  --John


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Members list settings

2006-06-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
John W. Baxter wrote:

However, we need to remember that we got to where we are because people
didn't like the old (1.0.x) way of doing this.  The page size choice might
have been the better way to fix that.


Thanks for the history John. So far, nothing has been done towards an
implementation, but it is clear that something needs to be done.
Whether that something is just allowing control of members per page,
filling each page but the last or a combination is not yet clear.

I hope that interested people will add their ideas to the RFE
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=350103aid=782436group_id=103.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive sorting question

2006-06-11 Thread Dragon
Jim Popovitch sent the message below at 08:19 PM 6/10/2006:
Mark Sapiro wrote:
I think I prefer something like
 
  # Previous message (by thread): [Mailman-Users] Mailman Delivery Issue
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  # Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]

This example makes sense to me.
 End original message. -

And to me, it is clear and concise. It's also what I thought Brad 
meant when he proposed it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive sorting question

2006-06-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Brad Knowles wrote:
 
 At 8:06 PM -0700 2006-06-10, Mark Sapiro wrote:

  I think I prefer something like

  # Previous message (by thread): [Mailman-Users] Mailman Delivery Issue
  # Next message (by thread): [Mailman-Users] Members list settings
  # Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]

  Any other thoughts/examples/opinions?
  Now that I've seen the options, I like your idea best.
 
 
 It seems unanimous so I've committed the change in the Subversion trunk
 for Mailman 2.2.

Thanks Mark, Brad too for his input.

Question:  Where can I make this change today to MM 2.1.8?

Thx,

-Jim P.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive sorting question

2006-06-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jim Popovitch wrote:

Question:  Where can I make this change today to MM 2.1.8?


Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py

--- HyperArch.py(revision 7893)
+++ HyperArch.py(working copy)
@@ -493,7 +493,7 @@
 subject = self._get_subject_enc(self.prev)
 prev = ('LINK REL=Previous  HREF=%s'
 % (url_quote(self.prev.filename)))
-prev_wsubj = ('LI' + _('Previous message:') +
+prev_wsubj = ('LI' + _('Previous message (by thread):') +
   ' A HREF=%s%s\n/A/li'
   % (url_quote(self.prev.filename),
  self.quote(subject)))
@@ -515,7 +515,7 @@
 subject = self._get_subject_enc(self.next)
 next = ('LINK REL=Next  HREF=%s'
 % (url_quote(self.next.filename)))
-next_wsubj = ('LI' + _('Next message:') +
+next_wsubj = ('LI' + _('Next message (by thread):') +
   ' A HREF=%s%s\n/A/li'
   % (url_quote(self.next.filename),
  self.quote(subject)))


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Re: [Mailman-Users] cleaning up dead addresses

2006-06-11 Thread Daevid Vincent
 This is _exactly_ why I asked for a re-confirm 
 subscription request. 
 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1504
 204group_id=103atid=100103
 
 
 Which was just submitted as a bug and duplicates your RFE of a couple
 of weeks ago at
 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1495
 305group_id=103atid=350103.
 
 It doesn't really help to re-submit what is really a feature 
 request as
 a bug. It just clutters up the tracker and makes the task of fixing
 things seem more daunting than it really is.
 
 If you're just trying to ping us to see if we're paying attention, it
 would be much better to add a comment to your original request.

No, I actually did search for my previous entry, as I could swear I had
entered one, but couldn't find it. Honest Injun I looked via several key
words and even tried to find via my 'username'. So I thought perhaps I
THOUGHT I entered one, but it never actually got submitted or something
(like as in CGI error or timeout or who knows)...

Sorry for the duplicate entry. It was not my intention.

D

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