[Mailman-Users] Hardware Requirements
Dear Sir, I am looking for suggestions on a hardware purchase. I am setting up a new mailing list server for our University. It will host up to 500 lists ranging from 20 subscribers to 1 with an average of 200 . Number of messages broadcast by the list server ranging from two to four mails per day,one of those mails is a daily bulletin mail broad cast by the list server to 1 subscribers.The OS will be RedHat Linux v4 , MTAwill be Sendmail ,and Mailman will be v2.8. Most of subscribers will have the same domain , so most of target MXes will be locally. Please advice. Regards, Naglaa El-Deeb System Operation Engineer University Network Services American University in Cairo Tel: 2027975344 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hardware Requirements
At 12:56 PM +0300 2006-07-24, Naglaa El-Deeb wrote: I am looking for suggestions on a hardware purchase. See FAQ 1.15 and 1.24. Start at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py if you don't know what I'm talking about. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Welcome messages
Question about welcome message options. If I have my welcome message option under General Options turned off, it doesn't send out welcome messages. Period. Even if I say to do so on the mass subscription page. I thought the individual subscription options would override what you have under general options, not the other way around. Is it supposed to work like this or do I have a problem? I'm using mailman 2.1.8 on RHEL 4 -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Welcome messages
Anne Ramey wrote: Question about welcome message options. If I have my welcome message option under General Options turned off, it doesn't send out welcome messages. Period. Even if I say to do so on the mass subscription page. I thought the individual subscription options would override what you have under general options, not the other way around. Is it supposed to work like this or do I have a problem? I'm using mailman 2.1.8 on RHEL 4 It's supposed to send the welcome if you check the box regardless of the list setting, but there is a bug. In this case, the mass subscribe process calls the SendSubscribeAck method in Deliverer.py to send the welcome, but SendSubscribeAck erroneously checks the list setting and doesn't send the welcome if the list setting is Off. This check needs to be removed from SendSubscribeAck. I'll fix it for the next release. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Huge slowdown reflected in smtp logs
Hi All, A couple of months ago we added a 35,000 member list to our new mailman installation. Checking the mailman smtp logs, we were very please with the performance - the whole list went out in 250 seconds. Individual messages were logging in at a fraction of a second. Mailings to this newsletter list go out about every 2-3 weeks. The first three mailings went out just fine - one in as little as 43 seconds to all 35000 members. But suddenly the time shot up to over 4000 seconds on the fourth mailing, and individual messages are going out at between 3 and 120 seconds. Subsequent mailings have had similar numbers and haven't coincided with any particularly busy times for the server, nor has any configuration of the server been changed. We use qmail, by the way. I'm not sure how to account for this huge slowdown. I suspect it may have something to do with the bounce system, because it was the fourth mailing that we first saw a reduction (about 500) in the mailing due to bounce-disabled subscribers. Currently there are about 11000 bounce-disabled subscribers which is not particularly a concern since the list had never been purged before. I would just like to know if anyone out there might have a clue as to the cause of the slowdown and if there might be anything we can do to speed things up. Regards, Craig -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fedora 5/Mailman: Lot of memory being used while sending email
We went back to Fedora 4.x and the memory is being flushed. It appears there is some problem with Fedora 5.x kernel :-( On 7/21/06, BG Mahesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi The configuration of our setup is Mailman: 2.1.8 Processor: Xeon 3GHz dual processor 2GB RAM server with 80GB SATA Fedora 5.x When we post anything on a list that has about 360k email ids, python is using 4GB of memory [2 GB physical and 2 GB of virtual] and the process is taking a long time [to send out emails] How do I fine tune it? -- B.G. Mahesh -- -- B.G. Mahesh http://www.greynium.com/ http://www.oneindia.in/ http://www.click.in/ - Free Indian Classifieds -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Huge slowdown reflected in smtp logs
Craig Pettersen wrote: A couple of months ago we added a 35,000 member list to our new mailman installation. Checking the mailman smtp logs, we were very please with the performance - the whole list went out in 250 seconds. Individual messages were logging in at a fraction of a second. Mailings to this newsletter list go out about every 2-3 weeks. The first three mailings went out just fine - one in as little as 43 seconds to all 35000 members. But suddenly the time shot up to over 4000 seconds on the fourth mailing, and individual messages are going out at between 3 and 120 seconds. Subsequent mailings have had similar numbers and haven't coincided with any particularly busy times for the server, nor has any configuration of the server been changed. We use qmail, by the way. I'm not sure how to account for this huge slowdown. This is between Mailman and your outgoing MTA. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.011.htp If you haven't changed things like SMTP_MAX_RCPTS, SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION, and VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL in mm_cfg.py, it almost has to be because of some change outside Mailman. I suspect it may have something to do with the bounce system, because it was the fourth mailing that we first saw a reduction (about 500) in the mailing due to bounce-disabled subscribers. Currently there are about 11000 bounce-disabled subscribers which is not particularly a concern since the list had never been purged before. I don't think it has anything to do with bounces in any way. Members who are 'bounce disabled' have absolutely no effect on smtp delivery to the list other than the fact they aren't being delivered to. If anything, having some members who are disabled rather that not, would speed up the smtp delivery. I would just like to know if anyone out there might have a clue as to the cause of the slowdown and if there might be anything we can do to speed things up. See the FAQ referred to above and the others it points to. I think something must have changed in the MTA or the underlying infrastructure. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] mutt script / macro for mailman moderation?
In case it's helpful to anyone, I put the first draft of a little script for mutt to simplify moderation tasks. Feedback welcome. Thought I'd post here in case it's useful to anyone. http://veggiechinese.net/mutt_mailman_approve.txt It's a perl script; it requires File::Copy, File::Temp and Term::ReadLine, which should all be pretty standard, I think. I'm sure it could be done in other languages too... this is just how I ended up doing it. Basically, to use this for approving / rejecting messages from the Mailman list manager, setup macros for the pager / index like the following: macro index M :set editor=~/bin/mutt_mailman_approve.plenter \ view-attachmentslast-entrysearch-reversemessage/rfc822enter \ replysend-message:set editor=\vim +'/^$/+2'\enterexit (where ~/bin/mutt_mailman_approve.pl is the path to the script) - replacing vim with your normal editor. This macro doesn't work quite perfectly if you try and use it on a message that isn't a Mailman confirm message, if the message is a single-part one. Let me know if you come up with an improved version of this macro. You could also presumably use message-hooks so that just hitting r would run this. It would be pretty easy to allow it to take a password as the second argument; in my case, I am the site admin for all of the lists I moderate, but I guess things could get a little more complicated if you moderate a lot of lists with different passwords. w -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
