[Mailman-Users] Fwd: HTML filter on the lists
I got the below message from a user, and am not quite sure what to do? Any advice? Dave Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:30:29 -0600 From: T. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HTML filter on the lists The filter you are using on text/html messages to the list really is very, very broken. First, it leaves parts of the HTML behind. Second, it lies about its output, claiming that all messages are now us-ascii (which breaks character set conversion tools which need to know the original character set in order to map to the correct one.) The situation as it exists now is that you have almost everyone on the list using Microsoft Outhous--er, I mean Outlook, which renders plain text us-ascii messages as HTML in Windows-Latin-1 encoding. My native character set is not Windows-Latin-1, it's UTF-8. This requires conversion, and the conversion tools assume that because your filter says the message is us-ascii, it actually is. I am also one of the about three people on the lists whose email does not support HTML natively. I have fixed that with a mail filter, but it only works if the message is actually HTML. Essentially, the three people for whom your mail filter still serves a purpose are having to deal with HTML emails we can't read precisely because your filter doesn't actually do what it says it does. My thought on this is to switch to a filter that simply defangs HTML without stripping it, or replacing the existing filter with some suitable lynx command line. My filter: LANG=en.UTF-8 lynx -dump -localhost -stdin -dont-wrap-pre -minimal You might want to use en.iso8859-1 instead for LANG, since just about everyone on the list speaks a Latin-1 language natively and Outlook does know how to convert that to a Windows character set rather easily. Just make sure that when the output is stuffed back into MIME format the charset is set to match the output. I tried to write something to correct this--if I take an affected message, correct the MIME headers so mutt knows it's HTML and what charset it really is, mutt does properly extract the message. The problem is that there is no automated way to determine which messages are mangled, and any filter would be forced to make as many assumptions about what the filter broke as as the filter made in breaking it. An Eastern-European poster's messages would be garbled beyond recovery. The proper solution is to not break the messages. *smile* __ NOD32 1.1689 (20060802) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] No Bounces At All
Please, help finding out if my message bounces were not generated at all or them lost anywhere else!!! I do not receive any udelivery notification! great thanx... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/No-Bounces-At-All-tf2044550.html#a5629248 Sent from the Mailman - Users forum at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] To: Field is not what it it suppose to be
OK .. I am just now noticing this on my lists. The To: field on all my lists have [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Although, I am sending it to lists.example.org. Is this a postfix or a mailman configuration issue? Thanks, LDB -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] list owner signature
Every list on our list server has mailman-owner@ address as the contact in the footer, I would like that to be list-owner@ instead ( list-owner being the name of the each particular list ), so when list subscribers click on it, they get to contact the list owner. the footer looks like this. If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Lenny Shovsky wrote: How can I change the value in the signature of list messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you talking about the footer appended to list posts and digests? If so, see the web admin interface, Non-digest Options-msg_footer and Digest options-digest_footer. If this is not your question, please try to be more specific. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] list owner signature
Lenny Shovsky wrote: Every list on our list server has mailman-owner@ address as the contact in the footer, I would like that to be list-owner@ instead ( list-owner being the name of the each particular list ), so when list subscribers click on it, they get to contact the list owner. the footer looks like this. If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! You still haven't told me where you are seeing this footer, but I will continue to assume it is on the bottom of posts and digests as sent to list members from Mailman. As I said, I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you talking about the footer appended to list posts and digests? If so, see the web admin interface, Non-digest Options-msg_footer and Digest options-digest_footer. To be more specific, assuming what you put above is the exact footer that you want on both messages and digests, put the following 4 lines in mm_cfg.py perhaps replacing any settings for DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER and DEFAULT_DIGEST_FOOTER that are already there (watch out for a wrapped line) DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER = If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to %(list_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s Thanks! DEFAULT_DIGEST_FOOTER = DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER This will set the default for new lists. For existing lists, you can edit each list manually through the web admin pages mentioned above, or you can do the following to set the footers for all lists. Put the following 6 lines in a file (again watch for wrapped lines). msg_footer = If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to %(list_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s Thanks! digest_footer = If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to %(list_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s Thanks! Then cd to the Mailman installation directory and run the following shell script #!/bin/sh for list in `bin/list_lists --bare` do bin/config_list -i path/to/above/file $list done If you want something different from the exact footer above, you can edit it accordingly. Go to the list admin Non-digest options page and follow the (Details for msg_footer) link for information on the various %(xxx)s substitutions you can use. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: HTML filter on the lists
David Andrews wrote: I got the below message from a user, and am not quite sure what to do? Any advice? Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:30:29 -0600 From: T. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HTML filter on the lists The filter you are using on text/html messages to the list really is very, very broken. First, it leaves parts of the HTML behind. Second, it lies about its output, claiming that all messages are now us-ascii (which breaks character set conversion tools which need to know the original character set in order to map to the correct one.) Presumably the issue here is the conversion done by Content filtering - convert_html_to_plaintext. The simplest solution is just to set this to 'No' and allow the HTML to go to the list unchanged, but you may not want to allow 'non-defanged' HTML or any HTML at all on your list. Another solution is to remove text/html from the MIME types allowed on your list and thus force your members to post plain text or at least multipart/alternative. See http://www.expita.com/nomime.html. If you want to continue to convert HTML to plaintext, there are a few issues. You don't say what Mailman version this is, but from your user's complaint, it seems it is pre-2.1.7. In versions prior to 2.1.7, HTML that was quoted-printable or base64 encoded was not decoded prior to passing to HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND which caused many problems. If this is the issue, you need to upgrade. Beyond that, the default for HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND is '/usr/bin/lynx -dump %(filename)s'. This may not be appropriate. Redefining this in mm_cfg.py to the command suggested by your user may or may not be a solution because of the way Mailman/Handlers/MimeDel.py resets the converted payload -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] No Bounces At All
MfFm wrote: Please, help finding out if my message bounces were not generated at all or them lost anywhere else!!! I do not receive any udelivery notification! Is bounce_processing set to Yes for the list? What's in Mailman's bounce log? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Extending Mailman - Contant Parser / Substituter
Shane Harsch wrote: I want to write a script that looks for a particularly formatted string in the body of a message, process it, and then replace that string with the appropriate output. Is there a standard method for doing this, and if so where? The closest thing to a standard method would I think be a custom handler. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.067.htp. As far as the actual manipulation, you'd need to use the message methods get_payload() and set_payload(). See http://docs.python.org/lib/module-email.html. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] To: Field is not what it it suppose to be
Lawrence Bowie wrote: OK .. I am just now noticing this on my lists. The To: field on all my lists have [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Although, I am sending it to lists.example.org. Is this a postfix or a mailman configuration issue? Assuming you are talking about individual messages and not digests, I don't think Mailman does anything with To: headers except in the case of full personalization. This is probably some canonicalization going on in an MTA because of CNAME DNS records. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] delete or edit message in archives?
Is there a way to edit a portion of a message on the archive? a subscriber accidently included some language she would like vedited out. -- Bill Howe www.billhowe.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving archives
Jewel sent the message below at 12:01 8/3/2006: Is is cumbersome or possible to move archives from a listserv running on L-Soft into Mailman. I just took over an existing list and created it on Mailman. There are archives from the old list I would like to import into Mailman. I am running Mailman 2.1.7. I cannot find anything in the listserv archives on this nor on google. If anyone can send me any links or information that would help. Thanks, End original message. - If you have an .mbox file for each list and you want to use the default Pipermail archiver, it would be as simple as concatenating the old .mbox file with the one in the mailman archive directory and then running bin/arch --wipe to generate a new archive. If they are only in HTML format, probably the simplest thing to do would be to put them in a separate directory and edit your archive template files pages to include a link that points to the Old Archives. You would still need to run bin/arch --wipe to get those links to show up in the all of the new archive pages. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] delete or edit message in archives?
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:35:48PM -0400, Bill Howe wrote: Is there a way to edit a portion of a message on the archive? a subscriber accidently included some language she would like vedited out. See http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/faq.html Q. I want to get rid of some messages in my archive. How do I do this? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving archives
At 2:01 PM -0500 2006-08-03, Jewel wrote: Is is cumbersome or possible to move archives from a listserv running on L-Soft into Mailman. See FAQs 1.31 and 5.1. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] message body is blank for some users
Hi Mark Thank you for this. Mark Sapiro wrote: What are the Content Filtering settings for your list? What do the headers of the post from the list with a blank body look like? The current filtering settings are - Should Mailman filter the content of list traffic according to the settings below? YES Remove message attachments that have a matching content type. BLANK Remove message attachments that don't have a matching content type. Leave this field blank to skip this filter test. BLANK Remove message attachments that have a matching filename extension A LIST OF EXTENSIONS - EXE ETC Remove message attachments that don't have a matching filename extension. Leave this field blank to skip this filter test BLANK Should Mailman collapse multipart/alternative to its first part content? YES Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text? This conversion happens after MIME attachments have been stripped. NO Action to take when a message matches the content filtering rules. FORWARD TO LIST OWNER I don't know what half of these mean so I'm none the wiser. If you think it would be a good plan I can turn content filtering off altogether and ask Jonathan to send a new message.. Here's one of Jonathan's mails that was sent to the list with a blank body (between asterisks) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 31 19:18:38 2006 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:23:59 +0100 Received: from hopeful9 by colo16.ukhost4u.com with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FlAkw-0006Ui-1F for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:23:59 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on colo16.ukhost4u.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=colo16.ukhost4u.com) by colo16.ukhost4u.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FlAkF-0006Pl-81; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:23:15 +0100 Received: from [65.54.168.45] (helo=hotmail.com) by colo16.ukhost4u.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FlAkA-0006Of-6y for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:23:10 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 30 May 2006 13:23:15 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 65.54.168.200 by by113fd.bay113.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 May 2006 20:23:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.252.224.13] X-Originating-Email: [Jonathan's email address] X-Sender: Jonathan's email address From: Jonathan Jonathan's email address To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bcc: Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:23:10 + X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2006 20:23:15.0960 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1DCB780:01C68426] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7 Subject: [activists] Transport through Headingley X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list Reply-To: for local activists [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- activists mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.healheadingley.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/activists_healheadingley.org.uk Many thanks for any ideas Nigel Secretary of Heal Headingley Campaigning for a Sustainable Balanced Community www.healheadingley.org.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] delete or edit message in archives?
At 3:35 PM -0400 2006-08-03, Bill Howe wrote: Is there a way to edit a portion of a message on the archive? a subscriber accidently included some language she would like vedited out. See FAQ 3.3. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 404 Errors
Dear list, I'm having major problems installing Mailman on my SuExec enabled server. I have followed pertinent instructions regarding installation in this environment, but cannot seem to access any mailman pages; all I get is 404 Not Found errors. The virtual host is set up ok on the server config. files, to the best of my knowledge, as are the permissions. Is there a specific set of steps I could take to help me diagnose exactly where this problem is rooted? I'm a Linux novice, and mailman is my first application installation, so this is likely a very basic error on my part. I'm wondering if it might be a server issue re. SuExec, rather than with mailman per se. When I command: suexec -V, I get: -D AP_DOC_ROOT=/var/www. However, this is not my web doc path, which is /home/dir1/dir2/html I installed mailman within the suexec path (as mentioned in the set of instructions I followed), at /var/www/mailman Could this be at the root of the issue? And if so, would installing mailman within the web doc path work vis-a-vis SuExec? Any help greatly appreciated.. Dan _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 404 Errors
Yep, gotta stick it in /var/www. Or, configure Apache to use a different directory as it's documentroot...but, seeing as how you're a LInux novice, I'd stick with putting things in /var/www for now. Best, Ryan Dan Zaz wrote: Dear list, I'm having major problems installing Mailman on my SuExec enabled server. I have followed pertinent instructions regarding installation in this environment, but cannot seem to access any mailman pages; all I get is 404 Not Found errors. The virtual host is set up ok on the server config. files, to the best of my knowledge, as are the permissions. Is there a specific set of steps I could take to help me diagnose exactly where this problem is rooted? I'm a Linux novice, and mailman is my first application installation, so this is likely a very basic error on my part. I'm wondering if it might be a server issue re. SuExec, rather than with mailman per se. When I command: suexec -V, I get: -D AP_DOC_ROOT=/var/www. However, this is not my web doc path, which is /home/dir1/dir2/html I installed mailman within the suexec path (as mentioned in the set of instructions I followed), at /var/www/mailman Could this be at the root of the issue? And if so, would installing mailman within the web doc path work vis-a-vis SuExec? Any help greatly appreciated.. Dan _ Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/steele%40agora-net.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Ryan Steele Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] AgoraNet, Inc. (302) 224-2475 314 E. Main Street, Suite 1 (302) 224-2552 (fax) Newark, DE 19711http://www.agora-net.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 404 Errors
Sorry, Forgot to forward this to the list. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 404 Errors
At 9:08 PM + 2006-08-03, Dan Zaz wrote: I'm having major problems installing Mailman on my SuExec enabled server. I have followed pertinent instructions regarding installation in this environment, but cannot seem to access any mailman pages; all I get is 404 Not Found errors. Did you search the FAQ? The archives? Did you search for things like suexec? The virtual host is set up ok on the server config. files, to the best of my knowledge, as are the permissions. Is there a specific set of steps I could take to help me diagnose exactly where this problem is rooted? Did you look at the logs? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] message body is blank for some users
Heal Secretary wrote: The current filtering settings are - Should Mailman filter the content of list traffic according to the settings below? YES Remove message attachments that have a matching content type. BLANK Remove message attachments that don't have a matching content type. Leave this field blank to skip this filter test. BLANK Remove message attachments that have a matching filename extension A LIST OF EXTENSIONS - EXE ETC Remove message attachments that don't have a matching filename extension. Leave this field blank to skip this filter test BLANK The net effect of the above is to remove all attachments with filename extensions equal to one of the extensions in the list. Should Mailman collapse multipart/alternative to its first part content? YES This could affect your issue. You could try setting it to No. When it is set to yes, Mailman will replace a multipart/alternative part with text/plain and text/html sub parts with just the text/plain part. If that happens to be 'blank' you will get the result below. However, the original message you posted at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-August/052525.html was not structured in this way. It was a simple text/html message. Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text? This conversion happens after MIME attachments have been stripped. NO I'm surprised because 'Yes' combined with other problems seems to me to be the most likely cause of this. Action to take when a message matches the content filtering rules. FORWARD TO LIST OWNER I don't know what half of these mean so I'm none the wiser. If you think it would be a good plan I can turn content filtering off altogether and ask Jonathan to send a new message.. That will allow everything to pass through Mailman as sent. Whether or not this is a good idea depends on whether you want to filter the attachments with matching file name extensions. I would try setting collapse multipart/alternative to No first. Here's one of Jonathan's mails that was sent to the list with a blank body (between asterisks) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 31 19:18:38 2006 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:23:59 +0100 Received: from hopeful9 by colo16.ukhost4u.com with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FlAkw-0006Ui-1F for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:23:59 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on colo16.ukhost4u.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=colo16.ukhost4u.com) by colo16.ukhost4u.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FlAkF-0006Pl-81; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:23:15 +0100 Received: from [65.54.168.45] (helo=hotmail.com) by colo16.ukhost4u.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FlAkA-0006Of-6y for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:23:10 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 30 May 2006 13:23:15 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 65.54.168.200 by by113fd.bay113.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 May 2006 20:23:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.252.224.13] X-Originating-Email: [Jonathan's email address] X-Sender: Jonathan's email address From: Jonathan Jonathan's email address To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bcc: Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:23:10 + X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2006 20:23:15.0960 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1DCB780:01C68426] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7 So it was manipulated by content filtering. Subject: [activists] Transport through Headingley X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list Reply-To: for local activists [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii And content filtering converted it to a single text/plain part either by collapsing a multipart/alternative part to the first subpart or by converting an html part to plain text. We think the second thing didn't happen because convert_html_to_plaintext is No. The first thing is not consistent with the message you posted earlier, so only further testing will tell. Test 1 - set collapse multipart/alternative to No and see what happens. If the post is still blank, Test 2 - set filter_content.to No. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy:
Re: [Mailman-Users] To: Field is not what it it suppose to be
Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: OK .. I am just now noticing this on my lists. The To: field on all my lists have [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Although, I am sending it to lists.example.org. Is this a postfix or a mailman configuration issue? Assuming you are talking about individual messages and not digests, I don't think Mailman does anything with To: headers except in the case of full personalization. This is probably some canonicalization going on in an MTA because of CNAME DNS records. That is what I thought. Thank you Mark. LDB -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Weird issuee again
Whenever a user sends to my lists from his account he does NOT receive his own post but yet New_members_options - Do not send a copy of member's own post is NOT checked. Could it be that it was once checked? Thanks, LDB -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Weird issuee again
Lawrence Bowie wrote: Whenever a user sends to my lists from his account he does NOT receive his own post but yet New_members_options - Do not send a copy of member's own post is NOT checked. Could it be that it was once checked? Thanks, LDB -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ldb%40freestandards.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp Thanks Dan ... http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg39734.html LDB -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving archives (from L-Soft LISTSERV to Mailman)
Is is cumbersome or possible to move archives from a listserv running on L-Soft into Mailman. I just took over an existing list and created it on Mailman. There are archives from the old list I would like to import into Mailman. I am running Mailman 2.1.7. I cannot find anything in the listserv archives on this nor on google. If anyone can send me any links or information that would help. I just spent several days doing exactly this. I was going to write up a very quick procedure, because your right about there being no good reference. The faq's quoted in this thread are good starting points but not complete. You will need to do some fine tuning of the resulting .mbox file. In particular, listserv manages dates in its archives independently. Over five years of LISTSERV archives I had mail from 1967 to 2098, thanks to bad clocks on email senders. I'll see if I can put something together. You will need access to the LISTSERV .LOG files for the list, not the HTML archives. Do you have those? You can get them with a LISTSERV command if the list is still active. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving archives (from L-Soft LISTSERV toMailman)
Dewhirst, Rob wrote: The faq's quoted in this thread are good starting points but not complete. You will need to do some fine tuning of the resulting .mbox file. In particular, listserv manages dates in its archives independently. Over five years of LISTSERV archives I had mail from 1967 to 2098, thanks to bad clocks on email senders. Once you have a .mbox file, it is a good idea to process it with bin/cleanarch to do some cleanup on From_ lines, escaping those that fail various tests on real, message separating From_ lines. It doesn't help with bogus dates though. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Editor
I am an administrator for a bunch of servers. We allow different clients to use mailman to send to lists. Some of the clients have not grasped the concept of not embedding images in the email. Since the images are in the email, the bandwidth usage has sky rocketed for these clients. Is anyone aware of a front end to mailman that the client can construct list emails and will store images in a web directory rather than in the email? Please keep in mind that the clients are not that technically inclined. Thanks for your help Neil West -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Editor
At 9:56 PM -0400 2006-08-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone aware of a front end to mailman that the client can construct list emails and will store images in a web directory rather than in the email? Please keep in mind that the clients are not that technically inclined. Front-end to Mailman? Why not just give these users a webmail server that works the way you want? Alternatively, why not just turn on attachment scrubbing for everything posted to the list (instead of just the archives), and let Mailman do that work for you? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
