[Mailman-Users] Archive Search not pulling all files

2006-09-21 Thread Moss, Patricia
I am running mailman version 2.1.5.

Everything was functioning normally.  I just received an incident
request stating that the Namazu search was not pulling all archives.

I looked in my NMZ.err file and am seeing the following messages:

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-author
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-author is not a Pipermail message file! skipped.

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-date
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-date is not a Pipermail message file! skipped.

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-subject
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-subject is not a Pipermail message file! skipped.

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-thread
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-thread is not a Pipermail message file! skipped.

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/index.html
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/index.html is not
a Pipermail message file! skipped.

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/pipermail.pck
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/pipermail.pck is
not a Pipermail message file! skipped.

 

 

I am not sure how to go about troubleshooting this issue.  I looked for
the error message in the archives, but did not find it. Any help is
appreciated.  Thank you.

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Using the inject message command

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jack Stone wrote:
   
  Try that with MM shows everything in the body, including the stuff meant for 
 the header. Here's the template I used for majordomo. Perhaps anyone having 
 used majordomo as well as MM will know of what I ask:
   
  From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  date
Received: (routing info)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A Tech Question
  Hello.  I'm just writing to
consume some bandwidth and
take up space in your mail
  Signed,
The Saint
  -


If this is an actual representation of the message, there are two
things wrong with it. There must be no spaces preceeding From , but
better still, just omit this line. There must be an empty line (a line
containing no characters or whitespace) between the headers and the
body.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I somehow copy list settings to another list?

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
James wrote:

I've setup a mailing list 1 just the way I like it. Can I somehow copy these
settings for all new lists that I create?


If you have command line access, see bin/config_list --help. That's
the only way I know.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reconfirming subscriptions

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
I have a question, i hope you can help?


This sort of question should be posted to Mailman-Users@python.org, not
sent directly to me.


I have a list of around 4000 addresses and some are complaing to
spamcop and not just unsubscribing themselves. I do not spam, i have
gone through our GoldMine DB here at work and added all the email
addresses to a mailing list. These are clients we deal with all the
time.

I would liket to send out a mail asking all the existing clients to
reconfirm their subscription, is this possible?


As far as I know, this is not directly possible within existing mailman.

The closest you can come is to use the Mass Removal interface (or
bin/remove_members) to remove all the members and then use the Mass
Subscription interface to *invite* them to rejoin.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive Search not pulling all files

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Moss, Patricia wrote:

I am running mailman version 2.1.5.

Everything was functioning normally.  I just received an incident
request stating that the Namazu search was not pulling all archives.

I looked in my NMZ.err file and am seeing the following messages:

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-author
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-author is not a Pipermail message file! skipped.

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-date
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-date is not a Pipermail message file! skipped.

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-subject
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-subject is not a Pipermail message file! skipped.

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-thread
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/database/2006-Sep
tember-thread is not a Pipermail message file! skipped.

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/index.html
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/index.html is not
a Pipermail message file! skipped.

/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/pipermail.pck
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/pipermail.pck is
not a Pipermail message file! skipped.

 

 

I am not sure how to go about troubleshooting this issue.  I looked for
the error message in the archives, but did not find it. Any help is
appreciated.  Thank you.


First of all, neither Namazu nor the material in FAQ 4.8
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.008.htp
is a part of our Mailman distribution, so this post is somewhat off
topic for this list.

Second, I don't know anything about Namazu, so the following may be
nonsense.

That said, it seems to me that the above messages are normal
occurrences and are not indicicative of a problem. It appears that
Namazu is looking in the
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/documentumdevelopers/ directory for
messages to index. Presumably it is finding and indexing all the
-m/nn.html files which are the actual archived messages,
and it is telling you that the 'table of contents' and various monthly
index files and the pipermail.pck file that it also sees are not
messages which is correct.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Fwd: archive emails are garbled]

2006-09-21 Thread Justin Zygmont
Brad Knowles wrote:
 At 5:21 PM -0700 9/20/06, Justin Zygmont wrote:
 
  Thanks, I guess its just a matter of inserting the content-type header
  into the message then.  I created these messages with a script that
  saved its output to a file, then used:
  mailx -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED] filename.html
 
 
 If you build the message yourself, as opposed to using a MIME-aware MUA, 
 then yes -- you will also need to build the necessary MIME headers and 
 internal infrastructure.  However, this can be a complex subject, and I 
 would recommend that you at least look into command-line utilities that 
 can help make this process easier.
 
 I can't think of the names of the toolkits off the top of my head, but 
 you should be able to find them pretty easily with Google.
 
 
 But do keep in mind that even command-line MUAs like mailx won't let you 
 control your own headers.  If you want to control the headers, you will 
 need to feed your formatted message directly to sendmail or some other 
 comparable message submission agent.
 
 When I've done that in the past, it's looked something like:
 
 sendmail -t [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /path/to/message
 
  If only there is a command line mailer that will allow me to add the
  mime type header to the email, then that would allow the message to
  display correctly in both my email client, and the list archives.
 
 
 I'd bet that mutt could do that, since it is the MUA that was 
 originally written by the guy who also wrote the PGP/MIME RFC, so he 
 clearly knows both his crypto/PGP stuff and his MIME stuff.
 
 Note that mutt does give you some control over what goes in the headers, 
 but mostly that's for putting in your own X- headers and not doing 
 critical things like mucking about with the MIME structure of the message.

thanks, I see it adds proper headers this way, but I still don't see a 
way to control what mime type to use.  I used the sendmail command with 
an html file and it still came through as ascii.  I've found that one 
workaround is to use mutt -a to include the file as an attachment, but 
i'm suprised there's no easy way to do this.  Thanks everyone for your 
help, I think the lesson is to find something other than uuencode when 
sending to mailman so it doesnt spoil the list archives.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Redirect all -bounce emails

2006-09-21 Thread Tom Kavanaugh
Hello folks,

I am currently re-directing all the lists -admin -bounce -owner -confirm
-join -leave -owner -request -subscribe -unsubsribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Currently, I administer all the mail lists and so this works well.

Going forward, I would like to make the list ownership of each list to the
relevant project manager. So, the -admin, -bounce, etc of every list will
have to go to a different email.

My Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py looks like below. This was done from my
previous posting in this discussion forum.
# Envelope sender (bounces) is always the site list.
envsender = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Is it possible for :
lista -admin -bounce -owner -confirm etc to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
listb -admin -bounce -owner -confirm etc to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
listc -admin -bounce -owner -confirm etc to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks
Tom




On 2/12/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tom Kavanaugh wrote:
 
 If you're thinking that you can get around the issue by having all
 bounces
 from any list be
 returned to the 'mailman' list posting address, you could do this in the
 source code, but not by using aliases on mine.name.com.
 
 Yes, this is precisely what I want to accomplish. Could you point me to
 some
 place, or the portion of the code that needs to be tinkered with. I am
 not a
 perl/python person, so this is going to be a huge learning curve for me.


 There are two obvious ways that jump to mind.

 The first, which will address the bounce issue for all mail, is the
 following code at the beginning of the process() function in
 Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py

 # Calculate the non-VERP envelope sender.
 envsender = msgdata.get('envsender')
 if envsender is None:
 if mlist:
 envsender = mlist.GetBouncesEmail()
 else:
 envsender = Utils.get_site_email(extra='bounces')

 which could simply be replaced by something like

 # Envelope sender (bounces) is always the site list.
 envsender = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

 Don't worry about VERP because it is calculated from envsender.

 Another way to do it would be to modify the getListAddress() method
 definition in Mailman/MailList.py to just return '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 when extra is not None and similarly modify get_site_email() in
 Mailman/Utils.py to ignore the extra argument.

 Then it might be possible to do it in your outgoing MTA, not with
 aliases, but with some kind of rewrite of the envelope sender on
 outgoing mail if your MTA supports such a thing.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Fwd: archive emails are garbled]

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Justin Zygmont wrote:

thanks, I see it adds proper headers this way, but I still don't see a 
way to control what mime type to use.  I used the sendmail command with 
an html file and it still came through as ascii.


When using sendmail to send a message, the input to sendmail needs to
have all headers as well as the message body. At a minimum, you should
have

From: ...
Subject: ...
Date: ...
To: ...
Message-ID: ...
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html

html message body

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Re: [Mailman-Users] One email that won't go through on my MailmanListserv...

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Justin Williams wrote:

While the list works well on almost all occasions, I've encountered one email 
that I forward to the list that will not ever show up, no matter what I've 
tried to do.  

The email itself was an HTML formatted (mostly text, but one embedded image) 
originally forwarded from my Outlook Express email software.

After forwarding the email initially, it never showed up (not emailed back to 
my account, via mailman... not appearing as an archived message like all other 
successful emails, etc).

I've since tried resending and/or retying and resending the contents of the 
email an about a dozen (literally) different ways.

* Kept the HTML, but removed the image
* Forwarded the image only, deleted the text
* Reworded the subject-line
* Reworded the text in the email
* Stripped all formatting (by copy/pasting the text from the email into 
notepad) and resending
* Stripped all formatting (by copy/pasting the text from the email into 
notepad) and resending as text-only
* Stripped all formatting (by copy/pasting the text from the email into 
notepad) and resending using webmail tool rather than OE
* Contacted my domain host to help troubleshoot using almost all the above as 
well

No matter what I've done, this email (and only this email) is failing as it's 
being sent to the mailman list.  I've sent about 8 other emails (with varying 
complexity, formatting, HTML, images, etc) to the list and each goes through, 
but this one email is somehow stuck being rejected... even if I reword much of 
the email.

Does anyone have any ideas about what to do with this?\


You say you forward the message to the list. Does this mean it
appears to come from you? If not, check the Privacy Options-Sender
Filters page to see if the address the message appears to come from
(or a pattern that matches it) is mentioned anywhere.

It's hard to even guess without seeing an actual message, and even then
it may not be possible to tell from that alone.

You will need to enlist the cooperation of the host to do the following:

Look in the MTA logs and see whether or not the message is being
received and delivered to Mailman.

Assuming it is, look in Mailman's vette and error logs for clues.

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[Mailman-Users] sending mail delaying long time.

2006-09-21 Thread Seang Chan Ryu
Hi,
I am new to the mailman software. If anybody can help me help this 
problem and where to look for the information. I will really appreciate 
that.

I send an to the list, but it takes 30 to 40 minutes to deliver the mail.
The list is not long. (10-15 people)
Here is the smtp log

Sep 21 10:26:07 2006 (445) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
smtp for 2 recips, completed in 0.622 seconds

The time it was sent was 9:40 though.
It seem there are a lot of entries in smtp-failure at the same time but 
non of email in smtp-failure log in not on the list.

I use postfix and mailman.
I am sorry that I couldn't be more specific. If somebody can guide me at 
least what to examin, I will really appreciate that.

Seangchan Ryu

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman just stopped

2006-09-21 Thread Carconni
Hi,

Mailman has been working beautifully for awhile now but yesterday it just 
stopped.  I wound up repairing all of the databases but it happened again 
today.  I'm getting the following error:

Sep 21 06:11:17 2006 (15075) Uncaught runner exception: unknown encoding: gb2312
Sep 21 06:11:17 2006 (15075) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in 
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in 
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py, line 74, in process
prefix_subject(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py, line 262, in 
prefix_subject
h.append(s, c)
  File 
/BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-117.root~35/usr/share/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py,
 line 285, in append
LookupError: unknown encoding: gb2312


Sep 21 06:11:17 2006 (15075) SHUNTING: 
1158844276.9904189+1e2464070413bcc3355b914153a142061eb60c6f


Does anyone know what might be causing this and why it would happen suddenly 
like this.

Thank you in advance for your assistance

Carconni
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman just stopped

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Carconni wrote:

Mailman has been working beautifully for awhile now but yesterday it just 
stopped.  I wound up repairing all of the databases but it happened again 
today.  I'm getting the following error:

Sep 21 06:11:17 2006 (15075) Uncaught runner exception: unknown encoding: 
gb2312
Sep 21 06:11:17 2006 (15075) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in 
 _dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in 
 _dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py, line 74, in 
 process
prefix_subject(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py, line 262, in 
 prefix_subject
h.append(s, c)
  File 
 /BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-117.root~35/usr/share/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py,
  line 285, in append
LookupError: unknown encoding: gb2312


Sep 21 06:11:17 2006 (15075) SHUNTING: 
1158844276.9904189+1e2464070413bcc3355b914153a142061eb60c6f


Does anyone know what might be causing this and why it would happen suddenly 
like this.


There are several things going on here. A message (most likely spam) is
being posted to your list and accepted for delivery. This message has
it's Subject: header encoded in the 'gb2312' (chinese) character set.

Mailman is trying to decode the Subject: so it can add the
subject_prefix and your Mailman/Python installation does not
support/recognize the 'gb2312' character set.

The above error occurs and the message is moved to Mailman's shunt
queue where it will stay untouched until you manually remove it or
queue it for reprocessing using bin/unshunt.

You can use bin/show_qfiles or bin/dumpdb to look at the entries in
qfiles/shunt and then just remove those you don't want.

You can also adjust your list settings to be not so generous in what
you accept.

There is something wrong with your Mailman installation as it should
recognize 'gb2312'.

This specific error should not stop Mailman. It just shunts the message
and that should be the end of it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] sending mail delaying long time.

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Seang Chan Ryu wrote:

I send an to the list, but it takes 30 to 40 minutes to deliver the mail.
The list is not long. (10-15 people)
Here is the smtp log

Sep 21 10:26:07 2006 (445) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
smtp for 2 recips, completed in 0.622 seconds

The time it was sent was 9:40 though.
It seem there are a lot of entries in smtp-failure at the same time but 
non of email in smtp-failure log in not on the list.


When you receive the post from Mailman, what are all the timestamps in
all the Received: headers? This will indicate where the delay is.

Delivery was to 2 recips. What about the rest of the 10-15 people?

What are the smtp-failure log entries?

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[Mailman-Users] installation move problems

2006-09-21 Thread Brian Lewis
I moved a mailman installation. I don't know what the old version was,
but the new version is 2.1.9. I moved the installation by tarring up and
copying archives/, data/, and lists/.

I'm getting pending notification messages every day, but there are no
messages to approve in the administration web stuff.

Is there some procedure to check the integrity of the various databases
and whatnot? Or maybe I can somehow save the actual data, perform a
clean installation of mailman, and reimport the data? Or something else.
Please help. Thanks.
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[Mailman-Users] Customization for one-way announcement list

2006-09-21 Thread Jimmy.do
Hi, We have Mailman 2.1.5 and are trying to set up and customize Mailman for
a one-way announcement list for a newsletter.  We have read the various
suggestions in the Mailman FAQ and customize the settings, various txt file
for Email, and the 3 public html pages.  We are encountering some parts
where there is no suggestions in the FAQs.  In particular, they are the
following:

1.  The confirmation html page when someone click on the subscription
confirmation link from within the Email.
2.  The login html page to allow the user to unsubscribe and the options
html page (somelists.domain.com/mailman/options/somelist)

Where can we get to these pages (listed above) to customize? Or 

Are they generated by Mailman on the fly?  If so, is it hard to hack the
code, which module, and is it advisable?

Does the new Mailman 2.1.9 provide more customization otpions?

Many thanks for any suggestions or help.

Sincerely,
Jimmy
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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation move problems

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brian Lewis wrote:

I moved a mailman installation. I don't know what the old version was,
but the new version is 2.1.9. I moved the installation by tarring up and
copying archives/, data/, and lists/.

I'm getting pending notification messages every day, but there are no
messages to approve in the administration web stuff.


There is more than one Mailman installation on the same or on different
servers. The one sending you the notices is not the one whose admindb
interface you are visiting.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Customization for one-way announcement list

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jimmy wrote:

Hi, We have Mailman 2.1.5 and are trying to set up and customize Mailman for
a one-way announcement list for a newsletter.  We have read the various
suggestions in the Mailman FAQ and customize the settings, various txt file
for Email, and the 3 public html pages.  We are encountering some parts
where there is no suggestions in the FAQs.  In particular, they are the
following:

1.  The confirmation html page when someone click on the subscription
confirmation link from within the Email.


Built on the fly by Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py.


2.  The login html page to allow the user to unsubscribe


Built on the fly by Mailman/Cgi/options.py


and the options
html page (somelists.domain.com/mailman/options/somelist)


Built from the options.html template (see
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp).



Where can we get to these pages (listed above) to customize? Or 

Are they generated by Mailman on the fly?  If so, is it hard to hack the
code, which module, and is it advisable?


Hacking the code is not difficult if you are reasonably competent with
Python.

The advisability of patching Mailman depends on the resources you have
for maintaining and porting forward the patches to new releases.


Does the new Mailman 2.1.9 provide more customization otpions?


No.

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