Re: [Mailman-Users] Interesting Goings ons...

2006-11-01 Thread Adam Morehead
Tested this morning:

Nov 01 07:52:15 2006 (4952) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
n.edu smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.020 seconds
Nov 01 07:52:15 2006 (4952) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
n.edu smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.016 seconds
~

Adam


Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Adam Morehead wrote:
 
 
Both are correct Next idea?
 
 
 Are you getting the daily summary of moderator requests?
 
 Look in Mailman's SMTP log? When a held post is processed, there should
 be two or three entries in the SMTP log with Mailman generated
 message-ids of the form
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]. One of these is
 the notice to the poster if respond_to_post_requests is Yes and has 1
 recipient. Two are first, the moderator notice to listname-owner with
 1 recipient, and then the resend to the owner(s) and moderator(s) with
 number of recipients = the number of owners and moderators. Do you see
 these in the log? 
 
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[Mailman-Users] List Doesn't Appear on Admin Page nor Listinfo Page

2006-11-01 Thread Barry Finkel
I am testing Mailman on Ubuntu.  I created the site list.
Then I created a test list vm6mmtestlist1.  I do not remember how
I created it, but I think it was via the web.  I had a problem with
the Mailman configuration because I am using a virtual machine under
Ubuntu, and I was confused as to the name I should use in the
mm_cfg.py file - the name of the virtual machine or the name of the
host machine.  I corrected the config to point to the name of the
virtual machine.  I created a second test list vm6mmtestlist2.
There was nothing in the aliases file for Postfix, so I corrected the
problem and ran 

 bin/genaliases

That command generated the aliases for all three lists.

When I go to the web, the admin page and the Lists Overview pages
contain

 Mailman
 vm6mmtestlist2

The vm6mmtestlist1 list does not appear, and I do not know why.
The list has

 Privacy options...
  Advertised   Yes

and I believe that there are no config differences between lists 1 and 2
except for Sender filters in list2.

I assume that it was due to a misconfiguration when the list was
created (that is why I created list2), but I cannot determine how to
make the test list appear in these two web pages.  I have looked at FAQ
4.62 and 4.17, but neither seems to have a resolution to my problem.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] List Doesn't Appear on Admin Page nor Listinfo Page

2006-11-01 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 11/1/06, Barry Finkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The vm6mmtestlist1 list does not appear, and I do not know why.
 The list has

The list doesn't show up because its URL doesn't match mailman's
current virtualhost URL. Try using fix_url on the list, and see if
that fixes the problem.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] reviving broken mailman ???

2006-11-01 Thread Dr. Scott S. Jones
Mark: 

 
 Patrick has pretty much covered it. If you want another view, see
 http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-October/054114.html.
 This is in the context of moving lists, but the directories and files
 would be the same.
 
 However, I *think* you should be able to reinstall Mailman without
 moving your list data aside and get the same end result, but it would
 be good to back up your data anyway.
 
 Also, re: Patrick's concern that the issue may be caused by something
 in the list data rather than Mailman itself is quite valid in general,
 but is almost certainly not the case with your specific issue.

Ok, I'll bide my time, I guess waiting for debian to come out and address
this apparent bug, relating to mailman and smtp-failure and debuglevel
reporting. I could wait a year, right, or it could be out today? 

In the meantime, I'll figure out how to back up my mailman installation per
Patrick's instructions. Is there any service that I could upload my list to,
and then have someone else send out to my list for me, for a price? Is that
option available? 


Scott

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Re: [Mailman-Users] reviving broken mailman ???

2006-11-01 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 11/1/06, Dr. Scott S. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, I'll bide my time, I guess waiting for debian to come out and address
 this apparent bug, relating to mailman and smtp-failure and debuglevel
 reporting. I could wait a year, right, or it could be out today?
If you're sure this is something in Debian, I assume you've filled out
a bug report about it, or at least checked bugs.debian.org?

 In the meantime, I'll figure out how to back up my mailman installation per
 Patrick's instructions. Is there any service that I could upload my list to,
 and then have someone else send out to my list for me, for a price? Is that
 option available?
Depending on what you mean by 'a price,' there are plenty of services
that offer mailman alongside a bunch of other stuff, probably for less
than $15/mo. I don't know that there are any dedicated mailman-only
offerings.

Personally, I have a VPS from vpsland.com (on which I run Debian,
heh.), which I could run mailman on; it's $11/mo.


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[Mailman-Users] Upgrade to mailman-2.1.9

2006-11-01 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Hi,

I have finally decided to upgrade from 2.1.5 - 2.1.9, but I am being 
hesitant because in 2.1.5, there was a patch to integrate spam 
filtering into Mailman using SpamAssassin.

What are my options once I go to 2.1.9?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade to mailman-2.1.9

2006-11-01 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 11/1/06, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have finally decided to upgrade from 2.1.5 - 2.1.9, but I am being
 hesitant because in 2.1.5, there was a patch to integrate spam
 filtering into Mailman using SpamAssassin.

 What are my options once I go to 2.1.9?

The best option (and what you should be doing now) is filtering spam
at the MTA level; either flat-out rejecting spam there, or tagging it
in some way that you can later reject things at the Mailman level, if
need be.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade to mailman-2.1.9

2006-11-01 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:31 PM +0300 11/1/06, Odhiambo Washington wrote:

  I have finally decided to upgrade from 2.1.5 - 2.1.9, but I am being
  hesitant because in 2.1.5, there was a patch to integrate spam
  filtering into Mailman using SpamAssassin.

For one thing, you should be filtering using tools like SpamAssassin 
within your MTA and not within Mailman.  Regardless of which version 
of Mailman you use, you should not be integrating an anti-spam tool 
like SpamAssassin directly into it.

For another, versions of Mailman after 2.1.5 gave you the ability to 
filter on tags placed on the message earlier in the handling process 
(e.g., by SpamAssassin that is integrated into your MTA), and take 
hold/discard/reject/etc... decisions based on that information 
*before* the list looks at whether or not the sender is a member, 
etc

This combination is extremely powerful.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Interesting Goings ons...

2006-11-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Adam Morehead wrote:

Tested this morning:

Nov 01 07:52:15 2006 (4952) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
n.edu smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.020 seconds
Nov 01 07:52:15 2006 (4952) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
n.edu smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.016 seconds
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The above are sends of two messages (two different message IDs).
Message id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is the poster notification and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the
owner notification. The owner nothfication is sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and then resent to the owners and
moderators. If there is not a second entry in the smtp log for message
id [EMAIL PROTECTED]. There
is a problem with delivery of mail sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

What happens if you manually send mail to that address?

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