Re: [Mailman-Users] I sent out a mailing, how can I know it's done or not?

2006-11-25 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Stanley Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 We have a list running 100,000+ email addresses, and we broadcasted a
 message. How can we find out if all messages are successfully sent, or
 still in queue? If still in queue, how many message left to be sent?

Look into the queue of your MTA
Usually the mailq does the trick (sendmail, postfix)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and (really) large lists

2006-11-25 Thread Jack Stone
As one stat, one of my lists of 10,000 is usually completed within 24 mins. I 
usually drop all filter scans during that time, plus I use 20 separate mail 
queues (sendmail) so too many don't pile up in a single queue and has to start 
over delaying send-outs. These 2 things have affected my speed more than 
anything else -- except maybe a custom footer which I avoid using.
  

Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At 8:39 AM +0100 11/24/06, Mathias Andre wrote:

 In parallel of this migration we have been ask to set up a very large
 mailing list: between 15000 to 25000 users. This would be a moderated
 list (actually more like some kind of newsletter).

 I was wondering how well would mailman cope with such a large list.

Check the FAQ. 15,000-25,000 is only a moderately large mailing 
list, as far as Mailman is concerned.

 Has any of you done anything similar?

Check the FAQ. There's lots of good stuff there.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I sent out a mailing, how can I know it's done or not?

2006-11-25 Thread Jack Stone
I usually look in ~mailman/qfiles/out and when I see 0, that's good enough 
for me, although I know there may be some stragglers in the MTA mail queues. 
But, MM is through with its part.

Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  * Stanley Chen :

 We have a list running 100,000+ email addresses, and we broadcasted a
 message. How can we find out if all messages are successfully sent, or
 still in queue? If still in queue, how many message left to be sent?

Look into the queue of your MTA
Usually the mailq does the trick (sendmail, postfix)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I sent out a mailing, how can I know it's done or not?

2006-11-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jack Stone wrote:

I usually look in ~mailman/qfiles/out and when I see 0, that's good enough 
for me, although I know there may be some stragglers in the MTA mail queues. 
But, MM is through with its part.


Prior to Mailman 2.1.9, the entry would be removed from the 'out' queue
at the start of delivery to the MTA. For a large list, there could be
some time before delivery to the MTA is complete. Beginning with
2.1.9, there will be a .bak file in the 'out' queue while delivery to
the MTA is in process.

You can look in Mailman's 'smtp' log for the message-id smtp
for nnn recips, completed in tt.ttt seconds message. When that message
is logged, Mailman's delivery to the MTA is complete. Prior to the
logging of that message, there's no way to know how close to done
Mailman is.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and (really) large lists

2006-11-25 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Jack Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 As one stat, one of my lists of 10,000 is usually completed within
 24 mins. I usually drop all filter scans during that time,

I don't do that. I have a special port on my MTA that only allows
Mailman to connect to it and mail coming in that way is not being
filtered.

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[Mailman-Users] new list, slammed and hosed...

2006-11-25 Thread Dr. Scott S. Jones
I recently reopened a list for my wife's business. I have a few of my own
lists. I NEVER get any unsolicited postings to my list, which has been up a
few weeks, yet after 2 days of starting my wife's list, I am getting
spammed, hosed and slammed by all sorts of dubious posts. 

Is there something that should be set in Privacy or otherwise, in my list
versus the wife's new list, that it allowing all the crap in? 

Finally, both lists are moderated. What if i opened up my wife's list, and
just let anyone post any old thing to it. Could opening it expose my server,
upon which it runs, to danger, hacking, and other attack? 

Please advise. 

Scott



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Re: [Mailman-Users] new list, slammed and hosed...

2006-11-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote:

I recently reopened a list for my wife's business. I have a few of my own
lists. I NEVER get any unsolicited postings to my list, which has been up a
few weeks, yet after 2 days of starting my wife's list, I am getting
spammed, hosed and slammed by all sorts of dubious posts.


Basically, all it takes is one list recipient's computer to be infected
with some spyware for the list addresses to start receiving mega spam.


Is there something that should be set in Privacy or otherwise, in my list
versus the wife's new list, that it allowing all the crap in?


Maybe, maybe not. If Privacy options...-Sender
filters-generic_nonmember_action is Reject or Discard on your lists
and Hold on your wife's, that could explain the difference.


Finally, both lists are moderated. What if i opened up my wife's list, and
just let anyone post any old thing to it. Could opening it expose my server,
upon which it runs, to danger, hacking, and other attack?


Probably not, but why would you want to expose the list members to
these posts? Much better to just discard them.  Better still to catch
as many as possible in the incoming MTA and not accept them in the
first place.

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