Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: I should have mentioned that will not work for this case. You'll notice that these are not all nice ascii characters. some are spaces, some deletes, some other hex values...I don't know what they all are because they will not copy and past nicely. They don't appear at all when I do list_members. Any other ideas There are several options and I have lots of ideas. Have you tried just checking the 'unsub' box next to the entry? yes, it says it is successful, but the addresses are still there The 'address' you see looks a lot like the URL of the options page that the address is a link to. Perhaps you are not seeing the address at all, but rather, you are seeing the result of funny characters in the address confusing the browser's rendering of the anchor tag. It looks like http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/options/nciin-network-ops/%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00 is a link to the options page of the user whose address is %00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00 (if you replace --at-- with @, %00 with ^@, %1F with ^_, %01 with ^A and %03 with ^C) Do you see [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the list_members output? No, I see [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@ the name has all the control characters in it. Which is why it doesn't display, delete, or list correctly Does this entry appear in the membership list on its own page at the beginning? There are 4 like this, and yes, they appear on their own page at the beginning of the membership list. It also looks like someone mass subscribed a list pasted from or output by a word processor If the bad addresses don't appear in list_members (I don't know why they wouldn't, but maybe they just appear with the control characters that you don't see and thus look OK) you can do bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - -n listname This says: ./list_members listname | ./sync_members -f - -n listname Dry run mode Invalid : [EMAIL PROTECTED] You must fix the preceding invalid addresses first. So I guess no luck there. and if you like what that says, you can do bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - listname You might also try bin/list_members -i listname to see what that shows. You could create a simple withlist script to validate member addresses and delete invalid ones.. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters
Anne Ramey wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: If the bad addresses don't appear in list_members (I don't know why they wouldn't, but maybe they just appear with the control characters that you don't see and thus look OK) you can do bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - -n listname This says: ./list_members listname | ./sync_members -f - -n listname Dry run mode Invalid : [EMAIL PROTECTED] You must fix the preceding invalid addresses first. So I guess no luck there. So the address does appear in the list_members output. Try this one bin/list_members -i listname | bin/remove_members -f - -n listname If that doesn't work, see http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/ or http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/ for a link to an experimental withlist script that should do it. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters
Mark Sapiro wrote: Try this one bin/list_members -i listname | bin/remove_members -f - -n listname If that doesn't work, see http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/ or http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/ for a link to an experimental withlist script that should do it. BTW, please report results. In particular, I'm interested in knowing if the list_members -i | remove_members fails and the withlist script succeeds. In that case, I'll add a pointer to the withlist script to the several methods already in FAQ 3.13. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Umbrella List question
Hi everybody, I'm new to managing Mailman lists, so please forgive my ignorance. :) I have an umbrella list with 4 lists that its serving. Let's call the main list MAIN, and the child lists CHILD1-CHILD4. My problem comes in the form of permissions. I want members of CHILD1 to be able to post to MAIN, or maybe directly to one of the childs, like CHILD2. Right now, I have a giant list of user e-mails from other lists in Accept_These_Nonmembers. What I'd like instead is to accept the lists themselves as Nonmembers to grant posting access to the list. Is this possible? In what ways is it possible? Can I make it so CHILD1 can post to MAIN? Can I make it so that CHILD1 can post to CHILD2? Help! :) Brandon -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Umbrella List question
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is this possible? In what ways is it possible? Can I make it so CHILD1 can post to MAIN? Can I make it so that CHILD1 can post to CHILD2? You need the patch at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1220144group_id=103atid=300103. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] is the arch utility missing in OSX server mailman installation?
Hi there. New to this list and new to Mailman. I successfully set up a Mailman list using the installation on OSX Tiger Server. Very cool software. A longtime majordomo user, I am impressed with Mailman. I wanted to edit the archives and was able to edit the listname.mbox file to remove the stuff I didn't want. When I tried to run the arch util to rebuild the html archive from the edited .mbox, the arch command gives no joy. Arch returns the architecture of the Mac hosting the list. ppc, in my case. I investigated further and find that there is no bin directory in mailman, so ~mailman/bin/arch returns no such file or directory. Is there a way to rebuild the archive listing based on the current contents of the listname.mbox file? I've looked for this information in the archives and FAQ's and I googled all over trying to find out what to do, but no help is apparent. thanks Larry -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] is the arch utility missing in OSX server mailman installation?
Larry Dieterich wrote: I successfully set up a Mailman list using the installation on OSX Tiger Server. When I tried to run the arch util to rebuild the html archive from the edited .mbox, the arch command gives no joy. Arch returns the architecture of the Mac hosting the list. ppc, in my case. I investigated further and find that there is no bin directory in mailman, so ~mailman/bin/arch returns no such file or directory. Apple split up Mailman between /var/mailman and /usr/share/mailman. The bin directory is under the latter and it works fine on my stock installation. The script must be run as root. DP -- Dan Phillips Associate Professor Rudi E. Scheidt School of Music University of Memphis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 901-678-3781 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] is the arch utility missing in OSX server mailman installation?
At 4:34 PM -0800 12/12/06, Larry Dieterich wrote: I successfully set up a Mailman list using the installation on OSX Tiger Server. Are you using the built-in Apple-provided version of Mailman? If so, then please see the FAQ Wizard entry at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trend Micro has announced that they will cancel the stop.mail-abuse.org mail forwarding service as of 15 November 2006. If you have an old e-mail account for me at this domain, please make sure you correct that with the current address. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] is the arch utility missing in OSX server mailman installation?
Thanks for the help. I am using the Apple-provided Mailman pre-installed on Tiger Server. 10.4.8 Build 8L127 I found the FAQ's referenced, but they seem mostly for setup, which I have successfully done. My problem is with the archive reconstruction. Dan pointed me to the location for the scripts, which Apple has placed in /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/ There is a directory there called Archiver. I assume that this is the tool I need but I am stumped about how to make it rebuild the archive from the .mbox file which is located in /private/var/mailman/archives/private/ I'm shakey on the command line and I'm kind of thrashing around here. I appreciate the support. Larry At 6:43 PM -0600 12/12/06, Brad Knowles wrote: At 4:34 PM -0800 12/12/06, Larry Dieterich wrote: I successfully set up a Mailman list using the installation on OSX Tiger Server. Are you using the built-in Apple-provided version of Mailman? If so, then please see the FAQ Wizard entry at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trend Micro has announced that they will cancel the stop.mail-abuse.org mail forwarding service as of 15 November 2006. If you have an old e-mail account for me at this domain, please make sure you correct that with the current address. -- Macintosh Paramedic 530- 867- 1402 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] is the arch utility missing in OSX servermailman installation?
Larry Dieterich wrote: Dan pointed me to the location for the scripts, which Apple has placed in /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/ There is a directory there called Archiver. I assume that this is the tool I need but I am stumped about how to make it rebuild the archive from the .mbox file which is located in /private/var/mailman/archives/private/ This is NOT what you are looking for. You are looking for /usr/share/mailman/bin/arch. The /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver directory contains the python modules that manipulate archives, but they do not have a convenient user interface. Thats what /usr/share/mailman/bin/arch is for. You should be able to give the command /usr/share/mailman/bin/arch --help and get more information. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] is the arch utility missing in OSX server mailman installation?
At 5:46 PM -0800 12/12/06, Larry Dieterich wrote: I found the FAQ's referenced, but they seem mostly for setup, which I have successfully done. I just updated FAQ 1.21 to include the following text at the bottom: All other support issues relating to using the Apple-provided versions of Mailman under MacOS X should be first directed to Apple, since they are the ones that modified the Mailman installation to suit their environment and they have not shared their changes with us. If we can confirm that the issues you're having are not unique to the Apple-provided version of Mailman, we will try to provide whatever assistance we can. If you have a particular problem with the Apple-provided version of Mailman and you manage to find out what the solution is, please let us know and we will try to keep this FAQ entry up-to-date. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trend Micro has announced that they will cancel the stop.mail-abuse.org mail forwarding service as of 15 November 2006. If you have an old e-mail account for me at this domain, please make sure you correct that with the current address. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Patch included in later builds?
Thanks Mark! Is there any plans on including the functionality of the patch in later builds of Mailman? Perhaps 2.2.x? Brandon ---Original Message--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is this possible? In what ways is it possible? Can I make it so CHILD1 can post to MAIN? Can I make it so that CHILD1 can post to CHILD2? You need the patch at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1220144group_id=103atid=300103. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problems with having to authorize
Hope some one can help. I am taking care of two mailing list. I installed one, and a friend installed and set up the other. I have set all of the admin settings the same. The one my friend set up is working fine. The one I set up works except for the fact that I have to authorize every piece of mail that is sent. I have both set up with a calendar to send reminders and that is the one that I don't want to have to authorize. Can anyone help? Mark R. Don't accept average habits, open your heart and push the limits. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with having to authorize
Joseph Richardson (Mark R.?) wrote: The one I set up works except for the fact that I have to authorize every piece of mail that is sent. I have both set up with a calendar to send reminders and that is the one that I don't want to have to authorize. Can anyone help? When you go to the admindb interface to approve the post, what does it say as the reason the post was held? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch included in later builds?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any plans on including the functionality of the patch in later builds of Mailman? Perhaps 2.2.x? Yes, the patch at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1220144group_id=103atid=300103 is a candidate for inclusion in Mailman 2.2. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
