Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with gid when installing

2007-01-22 Thread Peter Coolen
 
 
 I tried example.com/mailman/ just for a visit or a index 
 page but now I 
 receive a 403 forbidden...
 
 
 Let's try to debug one issue at a time, but what's in 
 error_log for the
 403?
 
 
The error when visiting domain.com/mailman/ 
[Mon Jan 22 10:01:52 2007] [error] [client 62.58.15.252] attempt to invoke
directory as script: /usr/local/mailman


 So now it looks like a permissions issue. What are the permissions on
 /usr/local/mailman (the contents looked OK in a prior post).
 
 Have you tried running bin/check_perms?

Results of bin/check_perms 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/mailman# bin/check_perms
Warning: Private archive directory is other-executable (o+x).
 This could allow other users on your system to read private
archives.
 If you're on a shared multiuser system, you should consult the
 installation manual on how to fix this.
No problems found
[18091 refs]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/mailman#


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/mailman# ls -l
total 72
drwxrwsr-x   11 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:23 Mailman
drwxrwsr-x4 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 archives
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 bin
drwxrwsrwx2 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 cgi-bin
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 cron
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:30 data
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 icons
drwxrwsr-x3 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:28 lists
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:29 locks
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:29 logs
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 mail
drwxrwsr-x   34 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 messages
drwxrwsr-x6 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 pythonlib
drwxrwsr-x   11 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:29 qfiles
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 scripts
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 spam
drwxrwsr-x   35 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 templates
drwxrwsr-x4 root mailman  4096 Jan 20 16:19 tests


Thanks,

Peter

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with gid when installing

2007-01-22 Thread Peter Coolen
 Don't know why but it works almost ;-)

I see a webpage and can create a new mailinglist...

Only one last problem I can't create a new mailinglist..

Receive this error:
Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists

I changed the administrators passwd and list creater passwd with
bin/mmsitepass -c or without -c but no effect..

Any ideas?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Adding disclaimer to message footer via command line

2007-01-22 Thread Leon Kolchinsky


 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 6:35 PM
 To: Leon Kolchinsky; mailman-users@python.org
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Adding disclaimer to message footer via
 command line
 
 Leon Kolchinsky wrote:
 
 Our management decided to add disclaimer to every footer in Digest and
 Non-digest options.
 I know that this is a bad netiquette but I have no choice.
 
 I have a lot of mailinglists running on my server and I though that may
 be
 there is a way to do this addition with some script via command line and
 add
 this to all lists, and save from myself doing it via web-interface
 enormous
 times.
 
 
 You can do this fairly easily in two ways. One is with a bin/withlist
 script and the other is by running bin/config_list via a shell script.
 
 Several examples of withlist scripts (not this exact one) can be found
 at http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/ or
 http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/.
 
 The shell script method is described at
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.038.htp.
 
 With the shell method, the input to config_list (configfile in the FAQ)
 would contain
 
 
 msg_footer=First line of footer
 Second line
 ...
 Last line
 
 digest_footer=First line of footer
 Second line
 ...
 Last line
 
 
 You also want the set DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER in mm_cfg.py (if you haven't
 changed DEFAULT_DIGEST_FOOTER, you don't need to now as it defaults to
 DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER) so the footer is set for new lists.
 


Thank you Mark,

I've created footer.txt file with the following text:

msg_footer = ___
%(real_name)s mailing list
%(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s
%(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s

Here comes a disclaimer text

digest_footer = ___
%(real_name)s mailing list
%(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s
%(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s

Here comes a disclaimer text

And run this script:
for i in $(/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_lists -b) ; do
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -i /path_to/footer.txt $i ; done

I've also added the following to /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py, so all
new created lists will get this disclaimer automatically:

DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER = ___
%(real_name)s mailing list
%(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s
%(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s

Here comes a disclaimer text


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Best Regards,
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[Mailman-Users] Changing Unsubscribe to NoMail

2007-01-22 Thread Gerald Drouillard
I have a list in which I would like the unsubscribe to set the nomail 
flag on instead of removing them from the list.  The reason being that 
the list administrators tend to upload new email addresses periodically 
and we would not like to add someone that has already unsubscribed. 

Is there a magic switch that will turn unsubscribe behavior into nomail 
behavior?

The mailman command line does not support the nomail option?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] domain in attached file url

2007-01-22 Thread ArteryPlanet.Net :: Manuel Kissoyan
Thanx Mark!

That worked. :-)




- Original Message - 
From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ArteryPlanet.Net :: Manuel Kissoyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
mailman mailing list mailman-users@python.org
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] domain in attached file url


 ArteryPlanet.Net :: Manuel Kissoyan wrote:

Here is an example:

-- next part --
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: 704.pdf
Type: application/pdf
Size: 40815 bytes
Desc: not available
Url :
/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070121/a1db2ede/attachment.pdf


Any idea what could be the problem?


 This has all the earmarks of a cPanel Mailman - specifically 2.1.9-cp1?
 If so, this is a cPanel bug (fixed I think in 2.1.9-cp2).

 In any case, the problem is caused by an incorrect setting for
 PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL in mm_cfg.py. I.e., '/pipermail/%(listname)s'
 instead of 'http://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'.

 Also, see
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.011.htp

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman, postfix virtual domains and mysql

2007-01-22 Thread Peter Coolen
Hi All,
 
Mailman almost works... First some problems with the webserver but that's
almost solved (can't use the list creaters and adminstrator password)
 
Also got the following problem:
 
I have a working postfix, mysql and virtual domains on the testserver.. This
works fine and is also on the main server.. 
 
Now I want to install mailman (done) and integrate with my mailserver..
 
Does someone have a manual for postfix virtual domains with mysql? I looked
it up in the site administrators manual but that's all about virtual domains
and not about mysql.. My config files are very different.
 
I use mysql_virtual_alias_maps, mysql_virtual_domains_maps and
mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps files
 
In these files are the following lines (table, select_field and where_field
are different):
user = username
password = password
hosts = localhost
dbname = Databasename
table = mailbox
select_field = maildir
where_field = username
 
 
Can someone help me with this?
 
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[Mailman-Users] Archivierung

2007-01-22 Thread Michael Barth
Hallo Mailman-Gemeinde,

 

ich wollte fragen, ob es möglich ist bei deaktivierter Archivierungsoption auch 
die Ablage der Attachements in
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/…/attachements zu unterbinden und wenn ja, 
wie?

 

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[Mailman-Users] /bin/sh: mailman: command not found

2007-01-22 Thread Ken Cheney
  I get a million of these messages from Cron.  Subject: [Mailman] Cron [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] mailman/usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news
   
  I have read that it is because of something messed up with the crontab.in or 
soemthing.  Something to do with the place #6 or something like that.
   
  I really did not find the message helpful at all since I know very little 
about cron in general.
   
  Can someone help?
   
  Otherwise I have Mailman fully functional on Fedora Core 6 and love it!

 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with gid when installing

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Peter Coolen wrote:
 
 I tried example.com/mailman/ just for a visit or a index 
 page but now I 
 receive a 403 forbidden...
 
 
 Let's try to debug one issue at a time, but what's in 
 error_log for the
 403?
 
 
The error when visiting domain.com/mailman/ 
[Mon Jan 22 10:01:52 2007] [error] [client 62.58.15.252] attempt to invoke
directory as script: /usr/local/mailman


As I said in
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-January/055473.html

If you want this latter URL to work (usually people send it to the
listinfo page), you need something like

 RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$   http://example.com/mailman/listinfo

in your Apache config.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with gid when installing

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Peter Coolen wrote:

 Don't know why but it works almost ;-)

I see a webpage and can create a new mailinglist...

Only one last problem I can't create a new mailinglist..

Receive this error:
Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists

I changed the administrators passwd and list creater passwd with
bin/mmsitepass -c or without -c but no effect..


I have seen other reports of this kind of thing, but first let's see if
the web interface works in general.

Try creating a list with bin/newlist and see if its web admin interface
works. If that's all OK we can come back to the web create issue.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with gid when installing

2007-01-22 Thread Peter Coolen
This is working fine now..

I also found a manual (in the dark environments of the internet) for postfix
virtual domains mysql and mailman.. Hope to inform you when it works but
don't know for sure.

Thanks for all the help.. You are great!!

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Verzonden: maandag 22 januari 2007 16:59
 Aan: Peter Coolen; mailman-users@python.org
 Onderwerp: Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with gid when installing
 
 Peter Coolen wrote:
 
  Don't know why but it works almost ;-)
 
 I see a webpage and can create a new mailinglist...
 
 Only one last problem I can't create a new mailinglist..
 
 Receive this error:
 Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists
 
 I changed the administrators passwd and list creater passwd with 
 bin/mmsitepass -c or without -c but no effect..
 
 
 I have seen other reports of this kind of thing, but first 
 let's see if the web interface works in general.
 
 Try creating a list with bin/newlist and see if its web admin 
 interface works. If that's all OK we can come back to the web 
 create issue.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] /bin/sh: mailman: command not found

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ken Cheney wrote:

  I get a million of these messages from Cron.  Subject: [Mailman] Cron 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman/usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news
   
  I have read that it is because of something messed up with the crontab.in or 
 soemthing.  Something to do with the place #6 or something like that.


There are two ways to install a crontab. The crontab can be a user's
crontab and for the mailman user is usually in the file
/var/spool/cron/mailman, but is usually manipulated with the crontab
command (man 1 crontab).

There are also system (package) crontabs which are usually found in the
/etc/cron.d/ directory. These crontabs have a different format. Since
they are not associated with a particular user, they have an
additional entry for the username between the times and the command.

Your problem is you have a file that was intended for
/etc/cron.d/mailman, and it is installed in /var/spool/cron/mailman.
You can fix this by moving /var/spool/cron/mailman to /etc/cron.d/, or
by editing /var/spool/cron/mailman (as the mailman user give command
'crontab -e') and removing the word 'mailman' that precedes the
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing Unsubscribe to NoMail

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Gerald Drouillard wrote:

I have a list in which I would like the unsubscribe to set the nomail 
flag on instead of removing them from the list.  The reason being that 
the list administrators tend to upload new email addresses periodically 
and we would not like to add someone that has already unsubscribed. 

Is there a magic switch that will turn unsubscribe behavior into nomail 
behavior?


No. There is no such switch, and implementing one would be tricky.

Here are some random thoughts.

You could set unsubscribe_policy to Yes, so unsubscribe requires
approval, and then manually do what you want. You might be able to
automate this or 'semi-automate' it.

When you set nomail for the user, you probably also want to set
password reminders off.

This could cause confusion for a user who changes her/his mind and
tries to subscribe and the subscribe fails because (s)he is already a
member.


The mailman command line does not support the nomail option?


See the set_nomail.py withlist script at
http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/ or
http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman, postfix virtual domains and mysql

2007-01-22 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:24 PM +0100 1/22/07, Peter Coolen wrote:

  Does someone have a manual for postfix virtual domains with mysql? I looked
  it up in the site administrators manual but that's all about virtual domains
  and not about mysql.. My config files are very different.

This is a problem with postfix, and you're much more likely to get 
something useful from the documentation  FAQs at postfix.org, as 
well as reading the archives of the postfix-users mailing list, 
etc  If you still don't find the answers to your questions after 
going through all those resources, you might want to post your 
question to the postfix-users list.

Once you get your postfix issues straightened out, we might be able 
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[Mailman-Users] But I don't want any Korean

2007-01-22 Thread Kent Taylor
Very frustrating. I had a problem installing a mailman update a few months back 
on Solaris 10. I posted the traceback, and a very patient person directed me 
through modifying and repacking Setup.py in KoreanCodecs-2.0.5, and that did 
the trick.
 
Now I'm trying to install another update, and I'm getting *Korean* errors 
again. I tried editing and repacking the Setup.py file like last time, but that 
didn't do it. So I did some googling and found instructions for editing and 
repacking hangul.c in KoreanCodecs-2.0.5. That didn't work either.
 
Is there any way to disable Korean all-together, forever and ever, amen?! It's 
just so frustrating to waste an entire day working a foreign language issue on 
a product that will never be used by a non-English speaking person - ever.
 
Anyway, here's the traceback from the log file...
 
admin(2805): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -] 
admin(2805): [- Traceback --] 
admin(2805): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(2805):   File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 94, in run_main
admin(2805): pkg = __import__('Mailman.Cgi', globals(), locals(), 
[scriptname])
admin(2805):   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py, line 26, in ?
admin(2805): from Mailman import Utils
admin(2805):   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 39, in ?
admin(2805): import email.Header
admin(2805):   File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py, line 13, in 
?
admin(2805): from email.Charset import Charset
admin(2805):   File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Charset.py, line 178, 
in ?
admin(2805): add_codec(_charset, _find_asian_codec(_charset, 'korean') or 
_charset)
admin(2805):   File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Charset.py, line 163, 
in _find_asian_codec
admin(2805): unicode('foo', charset)
admin(2805):   File /usr/sfw/lib/python2.3/encodings/__init__.py, line 91, in 
search_function
admin(2805): mod = __import__(modname, globals(), locals(), _import_tail)
admin(2805):   File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/korean/johab.py, line 26, in 
?
admin(2805): from korean.python.johab import *
admin(2805):   File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/korean/python/johab.py, line 
28, in ?
admin(2805): johab2uni_chosung = {
admin(2805): AttributeError: class Jaeum has no attribute 'SS'
admin(2805): [- Python Information -] 
admin(2805): sys.version =   2.3.3 (#1, Dec 16 2004, 14:38:56) [C] 
admin(2805): sys.executable  =   /usr/sfw/bin/python 
admin(2805): sys.prefix  =   /usr/sfw 
admin(2805): sys.exec_prefix =   /usr/sfw 
admin(2805): sys.path=   /usr/sfw 
admin(2805): sys.platform=   sunos5 
admin(2805): [- Environment Variables -] 
admin(2805):SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.36 (Unix) mod_perl/1.29 
admin(2805):SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/listinfo 
admin(2805):SERVER_SIGNATURE: ADDRESSApache/1.3.36 Server at 127.0.0.1 
Port 80/ADDRESS
admin(2805): 
admin(2805):REQUEST_METHOD: GET 
admin(2805):SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 
admin(2805):QUERY_STRING:  
admin(2805):HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 
5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.0.3705) 
admin(2805):HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive 
admin(2805):SERVER_NAME: 127.0.0.1 
admin(2805):REMOTE_ADDR: 192.168.90.28 
admin(2805):SERVER_PORT: 80 
admin(2805):SERVER_ADDR: 192.168.90.5 
admin(2805):DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/apache/htdocs 
admin(2805):PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman 
admin(2805):SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo 
admin(2805):SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
admin(2805):HTTP_HOST: m 
admin(2805):HTTP_UA_CPU: x86 
admin(2805):REQUEST_URI: /mailman/listinfo 
admin(2805):HTTP_ACCEPT: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, 
image/pjpeg, application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, 
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, */* 
admin(2805):GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 
admin(2805):REMOTE_PORT: 3176 
admin(2805):HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us 
admin(2805):TZ: GMT-5-5 
admin(2805):HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate 
admin(2805):UNIQUE_ID: RbSPvcCoWgUAAAcbN8g 

 
Thank you in advance for any assistance in either solving the problem, or 
side-stepping it by disabling Korean support.
/kpt
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] But I don't want any Korean

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kent Taylor wrote:
 
Is there any way to disable Korean all-together, forever and ever, amen?! It's 
just so frustrating to waste an entire day working a foreign language issue on 
a product that will never be used by a non-English speaking person - ever.


Well, the real issue is what header files or ?? are missing on Solaris
10 that prevent successful compilation of hangul.c, but that issue
aside, I don't offhand know how to remove all traces of Korean from
the package in a way that would prevent the kind of error you're
seeing.


Anyway, here's the traceback from the log file...
snip
admin(2805):   File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/korean/johab.py, line 26, 
in ?
admin(2805): from korean.python.johab import *
admin(2805):   File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/korean/python/johab.py, 
line 28, in ?
admin(2805): johab2uni_chosung = {
admin(2805): AttributeError: class Jaeum has no attribute 'SS'

Is there a hangul.so (or hangul with some other extension) file in
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/korean/c/?
If so, try removing it or renaming it. It is probably defective since
you can't compile hangul.c and your edit may have broken it. If it
isn't there, the library will fall back to
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/korean/python/hangul.py which should work.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman domain error

2007-01-22 Thread Christopher Glanville
Hi,
Can anyone help me. I have got 2 domains. Domain a.com and domain b.com 
and I would like to be able to write messages to either of those 
domains. I cannot work out how you do this though since my mailman 
router does not take into account anywhere the domain name, only 
$local_part (see below) So another question is since it (apparently) 
doesn't look at the $local_part why is it that a.com works but b.com 
doesn't.
The /var/log/exim4/mainlog file shows no difference between a.com and 
b.com but yet b.com doesn't arrive??

Many thanks in advance for any help on offer
de Chris G

PS my mailman router is:

mailman_router:
driver = accept
require_files = MAILMAN_HOME/lists/$local_part/config.pck
local_part_suffix_optional
local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : \
-confirm+* : -join : -leave : \
-owner : -request : -admin
transport = mailman_transport

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman domain error

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher Glanville wrote:

The /var/log/exim4/mainlog file shows no difference between a.com and 
b.com but yet b.com doesn't arrive??


Are you saying that mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] produces an exim log entry like

2007-01-22 22:38:05 JCB6FF-0001N0-GS = list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport

If so, that message got delivered to Mailman's 'in' queue (or at least
got piped to the wrapper, but if [EMAIL PROTECTED] works, we can assume that
the wrapper does the same thing because it's called the same way).

Lot's of things can happen to the message after that, but the most
likely is the message is held because require_explicit_destination is
yes, and Mailman is looking for [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not 
in
acceptable_aliases. What's in the admindb interface waiting for
moderator action? What's in Mailman's vette log? What's in Mailman's
other logs?

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