[Mailman-Users] basic postfix/mailman setup issue

[Peter]

I am testing a basic installation of mailman 2.1.8 on OpenBSD 4.0.

When I try to reply to the confirmation request I get an error from postfix 
saying that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not in the recipient table:

Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table

I thought the mailman aliases handles this?  I have the following in main.cf:

alias_maps = hash:/etc/mail/aliases

/etc/mail/aliases contains:

mailman:  "|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
mailman-admin:"|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
mailman-bounces:  "|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
mailman-confirm:  "|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
mailman-join: "|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
mailman-leave:"|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
mailman-owner:"|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
mailman-request:  "|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
mailman-subscribe:"|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman"
mailman-unsubscribe:  "|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe 
mailman"

What else do I need to do?

TIA,

Pedro
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to move lists/subscribers to new machine?

[Mark Sapiro]

Peter wrote:

>I have an old installation (2.1.5) that I want to move to a new machine 
>(running 2.1.8).  I was wondering how to go about moving the lists and 
>subscribers over.  After that I will worry about the archives.
>
>The first machine is running Mandrake Linux and the new machine is running 
>OpenBSD 4.0.


If you don't use a custom member adaptor, it is sufficient for list
settings and membership to move the lists/listname/config.pck file.

See

for more complete information.

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[Mailman-Users] How to move lists/subscribers to new machine?

[Peter]

I have an old installation (2.1.5) that I want to move to a new machine 
(running 2.1.8).  I was wondering how to go about moving the lists and 
subscribers over.  After that I will worry about the archives.

The first machine is running Mandrake Linux and the new machine is running 
OpenBSD 4.0.

Thanks to any responders,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Server migration question

[Steve Burling]

--On March 19, 2007 6:19:00 PM -0700 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Presumably the new installation is a 2.1.x installation, not 2.0.x, so
> you can't just move the queue entries because they're not compatible
> (in 2.1 there is a single .pck file per msg as opposed to the 2.0 .db
> and .msg files). IIRC, the incoming message is plain text in the .msg
> file, so using bin/inject on the new system to inject these into the
> 'in' queue for the list, although tedious, may be easier than anything
> else. (with luck, the list is an addressee so you can get that from
> the .msg without having to get it from the metadata in the associated
> .db).

To which I reply:

It's interesting -- the old installation was a 2.1.4 install, so I don't 
know there are both a .db and a .msg file for each message.

At any rate, when I looked just now, there were 150 pairs of .db and .msg 
files, and all but one had been flagged as SPAM, so I used bin/inject with 
the one .msg file, and sh*t-canned the rest of the files.

Thanks for the confirmation that that was what I needed to do.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Server migration question

[Mark Sapiro]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>The esteemed Steve Burling has said:
>> 
>> So, we pretty much successfully moved our mailman installation from the old 
>> Solaris box to the new Red Hat box.
>> 
>> Only one small problem.  Of course.
>> 
>> We (and by we, I mean me) had failed to reduce the TTL for the MX record 
>> that points to our mail server, which is now on a new machine.  So some 
>> mailman mail is still being delivered to the old machine.  I've stopped the 
>> qrunners on that machine, so things are just piling up in the qfiles/in 
>> directory.
>> 
>This is something to handle in your MTA.  I assume, since you specify
>Solaris as the old machine, that you were running Sendmail on it.  
>
>Remove the aliases that pipe to the mail list, and set up something
>like mailtertable to ship them to the new host.  


That will do for the messages that arrive subsequent to making that
change. There is still the problem of the already queued messages.

Presumably the new installation is a 2.1.x installation, not 2.0.x, so
you can't just move the queue entries because they're not compatible
(in 2.1 there is a single .pck file per msg as opposed to the 2.0 .db
and .msg files). IIRC, the incoming message is plain text in the .msg
file, so using bin/inject on the new system to inject these into the
'in' queue for the list, although tedious, may be easier than anything
else. (with luck, the list is an addressee so you can get that from
the .msg without having to get it from the metadata in the associated
.db).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Which settings controls mailman email addressdisiplayed?

[Mark Sapiro]

Ryan Golhar wrote:
> 
> The problem I have with is that the address being displayed is non-existent
> on the mail server.  The mailman system is installed on a web server thatis
> separate from the mail server.  I want the contact to be the list owner of
> the initial "mailman" mailing list ( step 9 from the installation
> instructions).  
> 
> If modifying listinfo.py is the correct way to fix this, then that's what'll
> do to fix it.


It seems from your description that your mailman installation is not 
correct.

The domain of the mailman list's email address on the listinfo overview 
page is the 'email host' that is associated with the 'url host' that is 
the host name of the URL used to access the page in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS 
dictionary which is built with add_virtualhost('url host', 'email host') 
directives.

If you have only one web host and one email host, these should be 
assigned to DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in mm_cfg.py, and 
these assignments should be followed by

VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

Then when you go to http://urlhost/mailman/listinfo/, the mailman list 
address you see will be [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then as long as that list's 
owner is its only member, you get what you want.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Server migration question

[vancleef]

The esteemed Steve Burling has said:
> 
> So, we pretty much successfully moved our mailman installation from the old 
> Solaris box to the new Red Hat box.
> 
> Only one small problem.  Of course.
> 
> We (and by we, I mean me) had failed to reduce the TTL for the MX record 
> that points to our mail server, which is now on a new machine.  So some 
> mailman mail is still being delivered to the old machine.  I've stopped the 
> qrunners on that machine, so things are just piling up in the qfiles/in 
> directory.
> 
This is something to handle in your MTA.  I assume, since you specify
Solaris as the old machine, that you were running Sendmail on it.  

Remove the aliases that pipe to the mail list, and set up something
like mailtertable to ship them to the new host.  

Hank
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[Mailman-Users] Server migration question

[Steve Burling]

So, we pretty much successfully moved our mailman installation from the old 
Solaris box to the new Red Hat box.

Only one small problem.  Of course.

We (and by we, I mean me) had failed to reduce the TTL for the MX record 
that points to our mail server, which is now on a new machine.  So some 
mailman mail is still being delivered to the old machine.  I've stopped the 
qrunners on that machine, so things are just piling up in the qfiles/in 
directory.

>From my examination of the files there, 99% of what's coming in is SPAM, so 
I don't care about delivering it.  But for the remaining 1%, I'd like to 
eventually deliver that mail, via the new mailman installation, so that it 
ends up archived in the correct place.

Is there any reasonably-straightforward way that I can take the *.db and 
*.msg files that I care about and move them to the new installation?  Or is 
what I really want to do to use bin/inject, passing it the individual .msg 
file?

Thanks in advance for any hints...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Display error for 'members' page

[Mark Sapiro]

Rick Pasotto wrote:
>
>I tried to clone a member from the command line (something I've done
>many times previously) but it failed with a NotAMemberError error. The
>traceback indicated that the *new* address was the problem. Well, of
>course the new address was not (yet) a member!
>
>Anyway, now when I try to use the web interface the 'members' page won't
>display. I get a 'Bug in Mailman' error.


And what is the traceback from this error in Mailman's error log.


>I have other lists on this machine (different domains) and they still
>work fine.
>
>How do I fix the problem?



may help.

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[Mailman-Users] Display error for 'members' page

[Rick Pasotto]

I'm running 2.1.9 under debian etch.

I tried to clone a member from the command line (something I've done
many times previously) but it failed with a NotAMemberError error. The
traceback indicated that the *new* address was the problem. Well, of
course the new address was not (yet) a member!

Anyway, now when I try to use the web interface the 'members' page won't
display. I get a 'Bug in Mailman' error.

I have other lists on this machine (different domains) and they still
work fine.

How do I fix the problem?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and forums

[Dragon]

David Beaumont wrote:
>Is there any software that provides or allows mailman to integrate with
>forum software (by that I mean a web based method to view all posts by
>thread etc..) And I don't mean the basic mailman archive which is pretty
>basic.  Something more like 'Yahoo groups'.
 End original message. -

That is a commonly asked question around here, it comes up every 
month or so. It probably ought to be in the FAQ...

A quick perusal of the FAQ index at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=index shows that it is:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.026.htp



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and forums

[David Beaumont]

Is there any software that provides or allows mailman to integrate with
forum software (by that I mean a web based method to view all posts by
thread etc..) And I don't mean the basic mailman archive which is pretty
basic.  Something more like 'Yahoo groups'.

Thanks

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Which settings controls mailman email addressdisiplayed?

[Ryan Golhar]

> >I've set up mailman on a RedHat linux server, and created a mailing 
> >list. My first problem is on the mainpage 
> >(http://xxx.xyz.edu/mailman/listinfo) it
> >says:
> > 
> >If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> >How do I change it from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to something 
> else?  Where 
> >is that setting stored?
> 
> 
> This is the address of the site list. The message is built on 
> the fly by the Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py script. There is no 
> way to change it short of modifying this code.
> 
> What you do is configure the site list so that mail to that 
> address goes where you want or produces an autoresponse with 
> appropriate information.
> 

The problem I have with is that the address being displayed is non-existent
on the mail server.  The mailman system is installed on a web server thatis
separate from the mail server.  I want the contact to be the list owner of
the initial "mailman" mailing list ( step 9 from the installation
instructions).  

If modifying listinfo.py is the correct way to fix this, then that's what'll
do to fix it.

Ryan


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Which settings controls mailman email addressdisiplayed?

[Mark Sapiro]

Ryan Golhar wrote:

>Forgive me...I'm new to mailman and am having some trouble.  I know the
>settings are in mm_cfg.py or data/sitelist.cfg but I can't seem to find
>where.


Actually, data/sitelist.cfg does not control anything. It is a
suggested configuration for the site list (usually named mailman) as
the default settings often aren't appropriate for this list. It is
used as input to config_list as in

  bin/config_list -i data/sitelist.cfg mailman


>I've set up mailman on a RedHat linux server, and created a mailing list.
>My first problem is on the mainpage (http://xxx.xyz.edu/mailman/listinfo) it
>says:
> 
>If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>How do I change it from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to something else?  Where is
>that setting stored?


This is the address of the site list. The message is built on the fly
by the Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py script. There is no way to change it
short of modifying this code.

What you do is configure the site list so that mail to that address
goes where you want or produces an autoresponse with appropriate
information.

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[Mailman-Users] Which settings controls mailman email address disiplayed?

[Ryan Golhar]

Forgive me...I'm new to mailman and am having some trouble.  I know the
settings are in mm_cfg.py or data/sitelist.cfg but I can't seem to find
where.
 
I've set up mailman on a RedHat linux server, and created a mailing list.
My first problem is on the mainpage (http://xxx.xyz.edu/mailman/listinfo) it
says:
 
If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
How do I change it from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to something else?  Where is
that setting stored?
 
Ryan
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newsgroup interface - prevention of spam transferfrom newsgroup to emails list

[Mark Sapiro]

David Beaumont wrote:

>Very occasionally spam has been sent to the newsgroup which our mailman list
>interfaces with.  The spam has then been uploaded to the email list and sent
>out.  This can only get worse. We never get spam on our mailing list
>normally because you have to be a member to email to it. Of course there is
>no such restriction on the newsgroup.   Is there a simple way to restrict
>postings picked up from the newsgroup to be from members of the email list
>only?


See the thread at

for some info on this.

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[Mailman-Users] using "subscribe" in email subject to subscribe users?

[JT]

How do I configure mailman to accept "subscribe" email?

Is there a way to configure my Mailman version 2.1.9.cp2 (or is it already 
configured) so that I can have subscribers email my list with "subscribe" in 
the subject or body?

Thanks!
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