[Mailman-Users] install issues - missing owner??
Hello all, I have two test lists setup, and everything seems to be working find through the web - so long as I have my selinux enforcing off (that's another issue). However, trying to run the bin/ commands I get the following output... anythoughts??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_lists 3 matching mailing lists found: Mailman - Mailman site list Test - [no description available] Test1 - [no description available] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_members Test1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_members Test [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_admins Test No such list: Test [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_admins Test1 No such list: Test1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_owners Test Traceback (most recent call last): File ./list_owners, line 120, in ? main() File ./list_owners, line 91, in main mlist = MailList(listname, lock=0) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 130, in __init__ self.Load() File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 616, in Load raise Errors.MMUnknownListError Mailman.Errors.MMUnknownListError [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_owners Test1 Traceback (most recent call last): File ./list_owners, line 120, in ? main() File ./list_owners, line 91, in main mlist = MailList(listname, lock=0) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 130, in __init__ self.Load() File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 616, in Load raise Errors.MMUnknownListError Mailman.Errors.MMUnknownListError [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# Thanks!! -john Interested in getting caught up on today's news? Click here to checkout USA TODAY Headlines. http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=198954u=http://www.usatoday.com/news/front.htm?csp=24 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mm-handler user unknown problem
No reply on this question yet.. Is there no'one out there who can give me some pointers??? Thanks! - Marco van Kammen Springer Unix / Exchange System Manager Floor Manager / Postmaster - Van Godewijckstraat 30 | 3311 GX Office Number: 05E21 P.O. Box 17 | 3300 AA Dordrecht | The Netherlands tel +31 (0) 78 657 6446 fax +31 (0) 78 657 6302 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.springer.com - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kammen van, Marco, Springer SBM NL Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:22 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mm-handler user unknown problem Dear All, Using: Red Hat Linux release 9 Mailman 2.1.9 Sendmail 8.12.8 First of all i'm a total sendmail noob so please be nice :-D I've been scrolling through FAQ's mailinglists etc all day and found many people have this problem but didn't find a really good solution for this.. Most problems seem to be related to people forgetting to setup aliases, but in this case i'm using mm-handler which as far as i understand overrides the use of aliases and only needs some address in the virtusertable. (if address doesn't exist in virtusertable then goto mm-handler and get specific mailinglist address) I got everything up and running, made the test list, received the mails from the test list, was able to subscribe people to it using the webinterface, the newly subscribed people also received the mails. Problem is when trying to send a mail to the new mailinglist. 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown I followed all the instructions according to the README.mm-handler file. My handler file looks like this: /etc/mail/mm-handler -rwxr-xr--1 mailman mailman 5951 Mar 20 13:39 mm-handler The link to mailman: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# cd /etc/smrsh/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] smrsh]# ll total 5 drwxr-xr-x2 root root 1024 Mar 20 10:22 . drwxr-xr-x 50 root root 4096 Mar 20 15:21 .. lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 31 Mar 20 10:22 mailman - /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman The appropriate parts of the sendmail.cf (at least i think these are only the appropriate ones concerning this problem) # Mailer table (overriding domains) Kmailertable hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable.db # Virtual user table (maps incoming users) Kvirtuser hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable.db Mmailman, P=/etc/mail/mm-handler, F=rDFMhlqSu, U=mailman:mailman, S=EnvFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL, A=mm-handler $h $u Mailertable looks like this: senldogo0013.springer-sbm.com mailman:senldogo0013.springer-sbm.com And the Virtusertable like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] When sending a test message to either of the above mentioned addresses works which indicates that the virtusertable file is active and working. When trying to send a test message to a invalid or valid mailinglist address i get the user unknown message back from sendmail and not the error message i'm expecting from the mm-handler which indicates to me that sendmail isn't properly seeing the mm-handler. My main concern is the sendmail.cf, i first edited the os delivered sendmail.mc file did some cut pasting from the mailman.mc file then generated the sendmail.cf file using the proper m4 method. Maybe someone can give me a basic sendmail.cf which can be easily used for the basic mail mailman functionality cause the mailman.mc file which comes with the package can't be used cause that one gives lots of errors. Thanks for the help! - Marco van Kammen Springer Unix / Exchange System Manager Floor Manager / Postmaster - Van Godewijckstraat 30 | 3311 GX Office Number: 05E21 P.O. Box 17 | 3300 AA Dordrecht | The Netherlands tel +31 (0) 78 657 6446 fax +31 (0) 78 657 6302 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.springer.com http://www.springer.com/ - -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/marco.vankammen%40s pringer.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe:
Re: [Mailman-Users] permissions, mailman, postfix, virtual .ugh!
I set up a virtual domain, and everything works with postfix alone. In main.cf: virtual_alias_domains = my.virt.domain virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual genaliases only creates virtual-mailman if you have one or more lists whose host_name attribute (email domain) is in POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS. I have this, but I have now removed it, because it seems to work without it if I just set my virtual domain (i only have one, as one of the mydestination in main.cf PERMISSIONS: Since -rwxrwxr-x clearly allows access, I'm guessing this is a SELinux issue. I think you are correct! However, I have now done the following: #setenforce 0 #dmesg -c #audit2allow -d Which shoud list my avc errors, and none are shown. If I setenforce 0, all works, if I setenforce 1, I have a problem... I'm running the latest selinux-policy and in the readme it states that the postfix mailman issue has been fixed? Ugh. Any ideas? There's not much traffic on the matter over at SELinux... Thanks! -john Interested in getting caught up on today's news? Click here to checkout USA TODAY Headlines. http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=198954u=http://www.usatoday.com/news/front.htm?csp=24 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mail not going to all members
I'm running Mailman 2.1.9 and postfix. A /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members info shows a list of members. However, when I send a message, to the list, only one person gets the email. In the maillog, it shows postfix only trying to send mail to that respective user and no one else. Any clues as to what's going on? Thanks, -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how do i edit the digest email?
Tina Forsyth wrote: i want to edit part of the email that gets sent out as a daily digest... specifically to remove the text at the top with all the list details about how to send to the list, etc... i'm using this as an 'announcement only' list and i don't want people to be able to access that information. ive searched all through the faqs and other documentation and couldn't find any reference to this. The digest boilerplate is in the template masthead.txt. See the FAQ at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp for information on editing templates. You will probably need the assistance of your host to install an edited template for your list. However, if this is an announcement list, why allow digests at all? If you set Digest options-digestable to No and turn off 'digest' for your current digest members, you won't care what the digest masthead says. (You may also need to set digest_is_default to Regular.) If you are posting so many announcements that digesting is desirable, perhaps you should consider batching them into fewer posts. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] install issues - missing owner??
Washakie Wyoming wrote: I have two test lists setup, and everything seems to be working find through the web - so long as I have my selinux enforcing off (that's another issue). However, trying to run the bin/ commands I get the following output... anythoughts??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_lists 3 matching mailing lists found: Mailman - Mailman site list Test - [no description available] Test1 - [no description available] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_members Test1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_members Test [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_admins Test No such list: Test [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_admins Test1 No such list: Test1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./list_owners Test Traceback (most recent call last): File ./list_owners, line 120, in ? main() File ./list_owners, line 91, in main mlist = MailList(listname, lock=0) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 130, in __init__ self.Load() File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 616, in Load raise Errors.MMUnknownListError Mailman.Errors.MMUnknownListError This is a bug in list_admins and list_owners. list_lists shows you the list's real_name attribute aka the pretty name, but the actual list name is all lower case. These scripts should lower case the provided name as does list_members. They will work if you use 'test' and 'test1' as the names. Thanks for the report. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not going to all members
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Mailman 2.1.9 and postfix. A /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members info shows a list of members. However, when I send a message, to the list, only one person gets the email. In the maillog, it shows postfix only trying to send mail to that respective user and no one else. Any clues as to what's going on? The other list members are either digest members or have delivery disabled. Try looking at the membership list in the admin interface, or do /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members --regular --nomail=enabled info -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mm-handler user unknown problem
Kammen van, Marco, Springer SBM NL wrote: No reply on this question yet.. Is there no'one out there who can give me some pointers??? contrib/README This directory contains unofficial contributed scripts and extensions to Mailman. They are unsupported by the Mailman developers. If you have questions or problems with them, please contact the contribution author directly. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mm-handler user unknown problem
The esteemed Kammen van, Marco, Springer SBM NL has said: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kammen van, Marco, Springer SBM NL Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:22 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mm-handler user unknown problem Dear All, Using: Red Hat Linux release 9 Mailman 2.1.9 Sendmail 8.12.8 First of all i'm a total sendmail noob so please be nice :-D I've been scrolling through FAQ's mailinglists etc all day and found many people have this problem but didn't find a really good solution for this.. Most problems seem to be related to people forgetting to setup aliases, but in this case i'm using mm-handler which as far as i understand overrides the use of aliases and only needs some address in the virtusertable. (if address doesn't exist in virtusertable then goto mm-handler and get specific mailinglist address) If you are new to sendmail, I would strongly suggest not attempting to use the mm-handler setup for initial setup and test. There is a four-step procedure for doing an initial sendmail configuration and checkout in the archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/msg43689.html The main.mc statements in that document are correct for Sendmail 8.12 and Sendmail 8.13 This setup presumes that you are installing Mailman on the incoming/outgoing mail host. I got everything up and running, made the test list, received the mails from the test list, was able to subscribe people to it using the webinterface, the newly subscribed people also received the mails. Problem is when trying to send a mail to the new mailinglist. 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown This is a fairly clear indication that you do need to install a set of alias pipes to Mailman. On a sendmail installation, you do this manually. bin/genaliases will produced the needed aliases in the proper form for sendmail. You need a full set of aliases for each list you create. It's important to understand that the Mailman aliases are pipes to Mailman scripts. What you are doing is telling the sendmail daemon for incoming mail to bypass normal sendmail spool handling and, instead, to pipe the data to the Mailman qrunners. I'll snip and skip over your configuration data for mm-handler as I don't run that configuration on my sites. I do not know if anyone reading this mail list is using that configuration. For a basic Sendmail-Mailman integration you do not need to enable and configure the mailertable and virtusertable features to support Mailman if you are not using them to support your site Sendmail configuration for regular user accounts. My main concern is the sendmail.cf, i first edited the os delivered sendmail.mc file did some cut pasting from the mailman.mc file then generated the sendmail.cf file using the proper m4 method. Maybe someone can give me a basic sendmail.cf which can be easily used for the basic mail mailman functionality cause the mailman.mc file which comes with the package can't be used cause that one gives lots of errors. Thanks for the help! I'll assume that by mailman.mc you mean main.mc. You can start with the sendmail distribution main.mc file. The only feature that Mailman requires that is not enabled by default is smrsh. FEATURE(smrsh, /usr/lib/smrsh)dnl Make sure that is the location of the smrsh executable on your system. Also make sure that the link in sm.bin points to the correct file. I can't vouch for the correctness of the main.mc statements included in the Mailman distribution contrib directory. If you get M4 assembly errors when making the cf files from the mc/m4 files, then you need to review the statements you are using against the Sendmail information in the O'Reilly Sendmail bat book and the Sendmail FAQ. Most of the statements you will add to the distribution main.mc file are site-specific. If you are new to Sendmail, and doing an initial installation, I'll suggest that you back down to the default Sendmail configuration, do what is necessary to get it to work with local user accounts using a simple MUA to test it, then use the 4-step procedure to integrate Mailman and Sendmail. Hank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] fix_url; one old link remains
I have migrated a list to a new machine but I see that for *one* link the URL did not change. In the archives, the link More information about this list is still the old one. This particular link appears in many places (on every archive page). Any ideas why this link did not change? Pedro -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] fix_url; one old link remains
Peter wrote: I have migrated a list to a new machine but I see that for *one* link the URL did not change. In the archives, the link More information about this list is still the old one. This particular link appears in many places (on every archive page). Any ideas why this link did not change? Answered yesterday. See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-March/056254.html. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] checkdbs error
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote: Adam Miller wrote: I'm getting some errors with a mailman cron job is running. I am using mailman version 2.1.9 on an FC5 i386 box. /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs, line 203, in ? main() File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs, line 104, in main discarded = auto_discard(mlist) File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs, line 192, in auto_discard heldmsgs = mlist.GetHeldMessageIds() File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 143, in GetHeldMessageIds return self.__getmsgids(HELDMSG) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 138, in __getmsgids ids = [k for k, (op, data) in self.__db.items() if op == rtype] ValueError: too many values to unpack Any ideas as to what is causing this error and/or how to fix it? Possibly a corrupt pickle? Thanks!! Yes. It seems there is at least one bad entry in a lists/listname/request.pck file. If you can identify which one, you can just remove it or replace it with an 'empty' (24 byte long) one. You can probably identify which one by visiting the admindb page for each list in turn until you hit a bug or wierd result. Or maybe you can see a problem with bin/dumpdb. Thanks! By removing the request.pck, will that destroy current pending requests? Cheers, Adam Miller -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not going to all members
Grant Carmichael wrote: The following command printed everyone in the list: /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members --regular --nomail=enabled info This command printed nothing: /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members --regular --nomail info Any other ideas? Please keep conversations on the list unless there are specific privacy concerns. I assumed from your report of the maillog that mailman is sending to only one address. Please confirm this by looking in Mailman's smtp log for the message id smtp for n recips completed in n.nnn seconds entry and verifying that n=1. Also look in Mailman's smtp-failure log to confirm there are no smtp time rejects by Postfix. Assuming all this is OK and Mailman is sending to just one recipient, other reasons why a delivery enabled regular member won't be sent a copy include: The member has nodups set and is addressed explicitly in To:, Cc:, Resent-To: or Resent-Cc: of the post. The post is From: the member and the member has not_metoo set. The member is subscribed to Topics and the post doesn't match. Note that it is possible for a member to have a residual topic selection even if the list currently has no topics defined and this can affect delivery if the member has not opted to receive posts not matching any topic. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not going to all members
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Please keep conversations on the list unless there are specific privacy concerns. I know it's a contentious issue, but if you want conversations to continue on the list then you should make the list set the reply-to back to the list. -- Paul Tomblin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.xcski.com/ Things which do you no good in aviation: Altitude above you. Runway behind you. Fuel in the truck. Half a second ago. Approach plates in the car. The airspeed you don't have. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] checkdbs error
Adam Miller wrote: Thanks! By removing the request.pck, will that destroy current pending requests? The requests will not be visible in the admindb interface and thus cannot be handled from there, but presumably that is already the case because of the error. The actual pending requests will still be in the pending.pck, and I _think_ could still be processed by confirmation token. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not going to all members
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Paul Tomblin wrote: Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Please keep conversations on the list unless there are specific privacy concerns. I know it's a contentious issue, but if you want conversations to continue on the list then you should make the list set the reply-to back to the list. It would be far easier for the sender to hit reply all (as I just did) than change the list settings. YMMV, of course. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Trapping posts with no subject, and an apology
Mike Maughan sent the message below at 06:28 PM 3/22/2007: On 23/03/07, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ^subject:\s*(\(no[_ ]subject\))?\s*$ Thanks for the fix the explanation. Do you know, that's the first time I've actually understood a pattern search regex? Wunderbar! :) End original message. - Learning regular expression construction is not an easy thing beyond the basic stuff. A tool I use to help me interactively develop and test complex regex strings is the Rx toolkit in Active State's Komodo development environment (Komodo handles Perl, Python, PHP, Java and a few other languages). You can try it free and a personal license is pretty cheap. http://www.activestate.com/ I don't work for them, I just love the software because it has made my script programming a lot easier. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] how long does a installation take normally?
Hi, I'm renting a linux box, fedora with the Apache/2.0.53. (as a dedicated server.) NOW; I looked at installing mailman myself, but rather soon figured I'm not linux experienced enough to do this. So I asked the tech people at fasthots.co.uk to take a look. They've been busy for a few days, working now and then I guess, and just now I received this e-mail from them: --- I've now (with the assistance of my colleagues here) spent considerably longer than the allocated 30 minutes trying to get this setup for you, without success. Realistically we are not going to be able to finish this without incurring additional PES fees, which may add up to a few hours - please let us know whether you wish us to carry on with this. -- Now, I would just like to know if this sounds kind of normal to you, experienced people. a few hours is quite a bit of money, hence my question. p.s. the server is a 'out of the box' story, hardly any modification (if at all). Thanks a lot, -- Lex Thoonen Pêng Smart Web Design - http://www.peng.nl Gran Canaria Info - http://www.gran-canaria-info.com Hollandse Nieuwe - http://www.hollandsenieuwe.com tel. +34 928 88.61.77 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not going to all members
Ok, I'm an idiot. In /etc/aliases, there was an info alias. I renamed the info list to users. Much better now. Grant From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Not Very Much Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:57:19 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not going to all members [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Mailman 2.1.9 and postfix. A /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members info shows a list of members. However, when I send a message, to the list, only one person gets the email. In the maillog, it shows postfix only trying to send mail to that respective user and no one else. Any clues as to what's going on? The other list members are either digest members or have delivery disabled. Try looking at the membership list in the admin interface, or do /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members --regular --nomail=enabled info -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how long does a installation take normally?
Lex Thoonen sent the message below at 12:58 PM 3/23/2007: Hi, I'm renting a linux box, fedora with the Apache/2.0.53. (as a dedicated server.) NOW; I looked at installing mailman myself, but rather soon figured I'm not linux experienced enough to do this. So I asked the tech people at fasthots.co.uk to take a look. They've been busy for a few days, working now and then I guess, and just now I received this e-mail from them: --- I've now (with the assistance of my colleagues here) spent considerably longer than the allocated 30 minutes trying to get this setup for you, without success. Realistically we are not going to be able to finish this without incurring additional PES fees, which may add up to a few hours - please let us know whether you wish us to carry on with this. -- Now, I would just like to know if this sounds kind of normal to you, experienced people. a few hours is quite a bit of money, hence my question. p.s. the server is a 'out of the box' story, hardly any modification (if at all). Thanks a lot, End original message. - I think they are either lazy or incompetent. (Or both). Mailman from source is extremely easy to install. I think it took me all of about 40 minutes to download it, extract it, read the install instructions and have my first test list working. Since you are using a Fedora box, have you tried using yum to install it? That's even easier, a few seconds for yum to grab an rpm from the repository and install it and then maybe 20 minutes to configure things and you should be going. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not going to all members
Quoting Carl Zwanzig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): In a flurry of recycled electrons, Paul Tomblin wrote: Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Please keep conversations on the list unless there are specific privacy concerns. I know it's a contentious issue, but if you want conversations to continue on the list then you should make the list set the reply-to back to the list. It would be far easier for the sender to hit reply all (as I just did) than change the list settings. Except it's not the person replying who is objecting to the replies not going to the list, it's the person being replied to. If I accidentally hit reply to a message of Mark, it's not me who's going to complain, it's Mark. -- Paul Tomblin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.xcski.com/ There are mushrooms that can survive weeks, months without air or food. They just dry out and when water comes back, they wake up again. And call the helldesk about their password expiring. -- after Jens Benecke and Tanuki -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how long does a installation take normally?
At 7:58 PM + 3/23/07, Lex Thoonen wrote: I've now (with the assistance of my colleagues here) spent considerably longer than the allocated 30 minutes trying to get this setup for you, without success. Realistically we are not going to be able to finish this without incurring additional PES fees, which may add up to a few hours - please let us know whether you wish us to carry on with this. IMO, your service provider is incompetent. If you're using a binary packaged version of Mailman, it should take less than a minute for the entire process to complete, including downloading the binary package. If you're going to install from source, it might take a few more minutes. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not going to all members
At 5:42 PM -0400 3/23/07, Paul Tomblin wrote: Except it's not the person replying who is objecting to the replies not going to the list, it's the person being replied to. If I accidentally hit reply to a message of Mark, it's not me who's going to complain, it's Mark. The definitive answer is FAQ 3.48. I shall not further flagellate this deceased equine. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how long does a installation take normally?
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Lex Thoonen wrote: I'm renting a linux box, fedora with the Apache/2.0.53. (as a dedicated server.) Fair enough. (You'ld've been better off with Debian, but ... ) NOW; I looked at installing mailman myself, but rather soon figured I'm not linux experienced enough to do this. So I asked the tech people at fasthots.co.uk to take a look. They've been busy for a few days, Wha-a-a-t ? Fedora is a pig if you want to add any new software, I know -- but that is just plain ridiculous. Just WTF are they doing? working now and then I guess, and just now I received this e-mail from them: . . . Now, I would just like to know if this sounds kind of normal to you, experienced people. a few hours is quite a bit of money, hence my question. PERSONAL OPINION It sounds to me very much that you're dealing with a bunch of clueless commercials -- box resellers who don't know what they're doing and hoping to get their punters to pay for their own learning curve. For me, installing mailman is a 5-minute job. No more. Actually setting up a new list usually takes me longer than installing the mailman software in the first place. Just my 2p's worth. [And personally, I'm with bytemark.co.uk] YMMV. -- Martin Wheeler - 00 44 1458 83-1103Glastonbury - BA6 9PH - England [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://avalonit.net/ http://martinwheeler.net/ GPG pub key : 01269BEB 6CAD BFFB DB11 653E B1B7 C62B AC93 0ED8 0126 9BEB * Share your knowledge. It's a way of achieving immortality. * -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Changing the name of a list
Hi all, Is it possible to change the name of a list? I don't just mean the 'public name' but the list itself? If not, is it possible to export archives from one list to another? -- Regards, Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the name of a list
Mike Maughan wrote: Is it possible to change the name of a list? I don't just mean the 'public name' but the list itself? See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.070.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] config_list does not finish
Hi there, Anyone know why the following command doesn't finish? It just hangs until I escape with ctrl+Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# bin/config_list -i vawupdate/scripts/carers.config.txt carers Configuration of other lists with similar configuration files works fine. This seems to be an intermittent problem that occurs on some lists, and i don't know why. I am using mailman 2.1.7 on Fedora 4. Would any extra info be helpful? I am stuck. Thanks a lot. Michael Here is the config file: real_name = 'carers' moderator = [] description = '' subject_prefix = '[VAW ]' archive_private = 0 owner = [' [EMAIL PROTECTED]'] new_member_options = 256 member_moderation_action = 2 member_moderation_notice = '' default_member_moderation = 0 info = '' anonymous_list = False first_strip_reply_to = False reply_goes_to_list = 0 reply_to_address = '' umbrella_list = False umbrella_member_suffix = '-owner' send_reminders = False welcome_msg = '' send_welcome_msg = False goodbye_msg = '' send_goodbye_msg = False admin_immed_notify = False admin_notify_mchanges = True respond_to_post_requests = 1 emergency = 0 administrivia = True max_message_size = 5000 host_name = 'list.vawcvs.org' include_rfc2369_headers = 1 include_list_post_header = 1 preferred_language = 'en' available_languages = ['en'] encode_ascii_prefixes = 2 nondigestable = True msg_header = '' msg_footer = '' digestable = True digest_is_default = False mime_is_default_digest = False digest_size_threshhold = 100 digest_send_periodic = True digest_header = Daily digest for %(list_name)s digest_footer = You have been sent this message because you are subscribed to Voluntary Action Westminster's %(list_name)s mailing list. To SUBSCRIBE to or UNSUBCRIBE from any of our mailing lists, log on to www.vawcvs.org, and click on 'Mailing lists'. Alternatively, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] detailing the changes you would like us to make and your request will be dealt with promptly. digest_volume_frequency = 1 advertised = True subscribe_policy = 2 unsubscribe_policy = 1 ban_list = [] private_roster = 2 obscure_addresses = True accept_these_nonmembers = [] hold_these_nonmembers = [] reject_these_nonmembers = [] discard_these_nonmembers = [] generic_nonmember_action = 3 forward_auto_discards = False require_explicit_destination = True acceptable_aliases = '' max_num_recipients = 0 header_filter_rules = [] bounce_matching_headers = # Lines that *start* with a '#' are comments. to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] message-id: relay.comanche.denmark.eu from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce_processing = True bounce_score_threshold = 5.0 bounce_info_stale_after = 7 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 3 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 7 bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner = True bounce_notify_owner_on_disable = True bounce_notify_owner_on_removal = True archive = True archive_volume_frequency = 1 nntp_host = '' linked_newsgroup = '' gateway_to_news = 0 gateway_to_mail = 0 news_moderation = 0 news_prefix_subject_too = 1 autorespond_postings = 0 autoresponse_postings_text = '' autorespond_admin = 0 autoresponse_admin_text = '' autorespond_requests = 0 autoresponse_request_text = '' autoresponse_graceperiod = 90 filter_content = False filter_mime_types = '' pass_mime_types = multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain convert_html_to_plaintext = False filter_action = 0 topics_enabled = 0 topics_bodylines_limit = 5 new_member_options = 256 member_moderation_action = 2 member_moderation_notice = '' topics = [] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] config_list does not finish
Apologies for the extra post, but some useful extra information. sync_members does not work either. On 3/24/07, Michael McAndrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, Anyone know why the following command doesn't finish? It just hangs until I escape with ctrl+Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# bin/config_list -i vawupdate/scripts/carers.config.txt carers Configuration of other lists with similar configuration files works fine. This seems to be an intermittent problem that occurs on some lists, and i don't know why. I am using mailman 2.1.7 on Fedora 4. Would any extra info be helpful? I am stuck. Thanks a lot. Michael Here is the config file: real_name = 'carers' moderator = [] description = '' subject_prefix = '[VAW ]' archive_private = 0 owner = [' [EMAIL PROTECTED]'] new_member_options = 256 member_moderation_action = 2 member_moderation_notice = '' default_member_moderation = 0 info = '' anonymous_list = False first_strip_reply_to = False reply_goes_to_list = 0 reply_to_address = '' umbrella_list = False umbrella_member_suffix = '-owner' send_reminders = False welcome_msg = '' send_welcome_msg = False goodbye_msg = '' send_goodbye_msg = False admin_immed_notify = False admin_notify_mchanges = True respond_to_post_requests = 1 emergency = 0 administrivia = True max_message_size = 5000 host_name = 'list.vawcvs.org' include_rfc2369_headers = 1 include_list_post_header = 1 preferred_language = 'en' available_languages = ['en'] encode_ascii_prefixes = 2 nondigestable = True msg_header = '' msg_footer = '' digestable = True digest_is_default = False mime_is_default_digest = False digest_size_threshhold = 100 digest_send_periodic = True digest_header = Daily digest for %(list_name)s digest_footer = You have been sent this message because you are subscribed to Voluntary Action Westminster's %(list_name)s mailing list. To SUBSCRIBE to or UNSUBCRIBE from any of our mailing lists, log on to www.vawcvs.org, and click on 'Mailing lists'. Alternatively, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] detailing the changes you would like us to make and your request will be dealt with promptly. digest_volume_frequency = 1 advertised = True subscribe_policy = 2 unsubscribe_policy = 1 ban_list = [] private_roster = 2 obscure_addresses = True accept_these_nonmembers = [] hold_these_nonmembers = [] reject_these_nonmembers = [] discard_these_nonmembers = [] generic_nonmember_action = 3 forward_auto_discards = False require_explicit_destination = True acceptable_aliases = '' max_num_recipients = 0 header_filter_rules = [] bounce_matching_headers = # Lines that *start* with a '#' are comments. to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] message-id: relay.comanche.denmark.eu from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce_processing = True bounce_score_threshold = 5.0 bounce_info_stale_after = 7 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 3 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 7 bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner = True bounce_notify_owner_on_disable = True bounce_notify_owner_on_removal = True archive = True archive_volume_frequency = 1 nntp_host = '' linked_newsgroup = '' gateway_to_news = 0 gateway_to_mail = 0 news_moderation = 0 news_prefix_subject_too = 1 autorespond_postings = 0 autoresponse_postings_text = '' autorespond_admin = 0 autoresponse_admin_text = '' autorespond_requests = 0 autoresponse_request_text = '' autoresponse_graceperiod = 90 filter_content = False filter_mime_types = '' pass_mime_types = multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain convert_html_to_plaintext = False filter_action = 0 topics_enabled = 0 topics_bodylines_limit = 5 new_member_options = 256 member_moderation_action = 2 member_moderation_notice = '' topics = [] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] config_list does not finish
Michael McAndrew wrote: Anyone know why the following command doesn't finish? It just hangs until I escape with ctrl+Z And do you leave it in the background after that or what? [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# bin/config_list -i vawupdate/scripts/carers.config.txt carers Configuration of other lists with similar configuration files works fine. This seems to be an intermittent problem that occurs on some lists, and i don't know why. I am using mailman 2.1.7 on Fedora 4. Would any extra info be helpful? I am stuck. Thanks a lot. Michael Here is the config file: By placing the input inside triple quotes, you make the whole thing one string that isn't assigned to anything, so this doesn't have any effect on the list. real_name = 'carers' moderator = [] description = '' subject_prefix = '[VAW ]' archive_private = 0 owner = [' [EMAIL PROTECTED]'] I don't know that it does real harm, but I suggest you not have a leading space in the owner email. new_member_options = 256 member_moderation_action = 2 member_moderation_notice = '' default_member_moderation = 0 info = '' anonymous_list = False first_strip_reply_to = False reply_goes_to_list = 0 reply_to_address = '' umbrella_list = False umbrella_member_suffix = '-owner' send_reminders = False welcome_msg = '' send_welcome_msg = False goodbye_msg = '' send_goodbye_msg = False admin_immed_notify = False admin_notify_mchanges = True respond_to_post_requests = 1 emergency = 0 administrivia = True max_message_size = 5000 host_name = 'list.vawcvs.org' include_rfc2369_headers = 1 include_list_post_header = 1 preferred_language = 'en' available_languages = ['en'] encode_ascii_prefixes = 2 nondigestable = True msg_header = '' msg_footer = '' digestable = True digest_is_default = False mime_is_default_digest = False digest_size_threshhold = 100 digest_send_periodic = True digest_header = Daily digest for %(list_name)s Actually, my comment about one string is wrong. The first string ends at 'digest_header = '. Then there is some invalid config_list input and the start of another string. digest_footer = You have been sent this message because you which ends here. are subscribed to Voluntary Action Westminster's %(list_name)s mailing list. To SUBSCRIBE to or UNSUBCRIBE from any of our mailing lists, log on to www.vawcvs.org, and click on 'Mailing lists'. Alternatively, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] detailing the changes you would like us to make and your request will be dealt with promptly. and then another string starts here. digest_volume_frequency = 1 advertised = True subscribe_policy = 2 unsubscribe_policy = 1 ban_list = [] private_roster = 2 obscure_addresses = True accept_these_nonmembers = [] hold_these_nonmembers = [] reject_these_nonmembers = [] discard_these_nonmembers = [] generic_nonmember_action = 3 forward_auto_discards = False require_explicit_destination = True acceptable_aliases = '' max_num_recipients = 0 header_filter_rules = [] bounce_matching_headers = And ends here, and so on. # Lines that *start* with a '#' are comments. to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] message-id: relay.comanche.denmark.eu from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce_processing = True bounce_score_threshold = 5.0 bounce_info_stale_after = 7 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 3 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 7 bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner = True bounce_notify_owner_on_disable = True bounce_notify_owner_on_removal = True archive = True archive_volume_frequency = 1 nntp_host = '' linked_newsgroup = '' gateway_to_news = 0 gateway_to_mail = 0 news_moderation = 0 news_prefix_subject_too = 1 autorespond_postings = 0 autoresponse_postings_text = '' autorespond_admin = 0 autoresponse_admin_text = '' autorespond_requests = 0 autoresponse_request_text = '' autoresponse_graceperiod = 90 filter_content = False filter_mime_types = '' pass_mime_types = multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain convert_html_to_plaintext = False filter_action = 0 topics_enabled = 0 topics_bodylines_limit = 5 new_member_options = 256 member_moderation_action = 2 member_moderation_notice = '' topics = [] The extraneous triple quotes don't explain why config_list hangs. If I feed that file to config_list, I get Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/config_list, line 362, in ? main() File bin/config_list, line 357, in main do_input(listname, infile, checkonly, verbose) File bin/config_list, line 263, in do_input execfile(infile, globals) File z, line 45 digest_header = Daily digest for %(list_name)s ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax which is exactly what I expected to get. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ:
Re: [Mailman-Users] config_list does not finish
Michael McAndrew wrote: Apologies for the extra post, but some useful extra information. sync_members does not work either. The list is locked. That's why the config_list and synch_members hang. They're waiting on the lock. And control-Zing them to the background just exacerbates the situation. You need to first kill all the background processes. Then see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.076.htp for info about removing stale locks. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
