Re: [Mailman-Users] Topics and senders
Mark Sapiro wrote: Martin Dennett wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Check Mailman's smtp and smtp-failure logs to see how many recipients Mailman sent to and if there were any failures at the smtp level. Also check the bounce log for bounces and the MTA logs. Out of my reach unfortunately - I don't have access to them :-( OK. If you enable delivery for these test members, do they receive either ordinary or urgent posts? Yep - both types. Just tried them out now. MD -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] default settings for newly created lists
Hi, I'm running Mailman 2.1.5.1-34 on RHEL4 machine. I will have to create some lists and I don't want to go throught the bin/config_list -o list.cfg list - edit the cfg file - bin/config_list -i list.cfg list, but I want to edit the options, that are the source for the creating new lists when I type the ./newlist command. Where is the default setting for new lists stored? I really can't find it. For example I'd like to have 'msg_footer' option set the same for all my lists, 'generic_nonmember_action' and many others set to my own default, when I create a new list. Is it possible? Where can I do it? Many thanks, Tomas -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Topics and senders
Martin Dennett wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: If you enable delivery for these test members, do they receive either ordinary or urgent posts? Yep - both types. Just tried them out now. What Mailman version is this, and is it a package or a source install? I've only actually tested this on 2.1.5, but I see nothing in the code in other versions that would affect it. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] kwotidian.com
Dear Mailman Users, I am looking to put together a small team for Kwotidian.com, a startup which will create and distribute bilingual language development email. Kwotidian will use Mailman and we need 1-3 persons to handle the technical side. The idea for Kwotidian began with a company named Wordburger in 1999. Wordburger sent out bite-size, witty, bilingual language lessons. Subscribers learned a few useful English words each day. Wordburger grew rapidly to 140,000 subscribers who wanted to learn or improve their English, 95% of whom were in non-English speaking countries. Our most successful edition was the Chinese, with 55,000 subscribers. We shut down in 2001 because our primary revenue model at that time was advertising and the reputation of internet advertising had gone down the drain. Now we intend to try again. The goal is not to have hundreds of thousands of subscribers - it is to have millions of subscribers. Kwotidian.com needs a small team whose essential ingredient is enthusiasm and energy. Mailman and html experience would be good and experience with international character set encodings would be desirable but not essential. Kwotidian is not yet operational but the basic idea and a sample Kwotidian daily message can be seen at kwotidian.com. Please get in touch with me if you are interested. I will be glad to provide more details. Fred Leber Williamstown, Massachusetts USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] default settings for newly created lists
Tomas Macek wrote: Where is the default setting for new lists stored? I really can't find it. For example I'd like to have 'msg_footer' option set the same for all my lists, 'generic_nonmember_action' and many others set to my own default, when I create a new list. Is it possible? Where can I do it? There is no default new list configuration per se, but most defaults can be set in mm_cfg.py, for example DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER and DEFAULT_GENERIC_NONMEMBER_ACTION. Read Defaults.py for the full list. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10
The esteemed David Devereaux-Weber has said: Hank, Thanks for your help! I installed Python 2.4.4. I did receive errors that tcl and something else didn't install. Now, the Mailman install script still finds /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213 . Can you tell me where Python 2.4.4 puts the distutils? Dave If you built python 2.4.4 to install in /usr/local, you should have a /usr/local/lib/python2.4 directory that has the distutils in it. I assume you're building Mailman 2.1.9 from downloaded source; if not, I recommend you do that, rather than using somebody else's prebuilt source. Make sure the correct python is in your PATH. If you've already built Mailman with the /opt/csw python2.3, do a make clean, rerun configure, make, and make install on Mailman. As I've said, /opt/csw is not a Solaris 10 directory, but is used by one or more of the package prebuilders. I would do an audit on what is in that directory and pkgrm anything you don't actually need on your system. Using the Solaris release sendmail and apache works well, but I'd build Python 2.4.4 and Mailman 2.1.9 from source. The default gid for sendmail is other and for apache is nobody, for the Mailman configure script on Solaris 9/10. Hank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] default settings for newly created lists
Tomas Macek wrote: Hi, I'm running Mailman 2.1.5.1-34 on RHEL4 machine. I will have to create some lists and I don't want to go throught the bin/config_list -o list.cfg list - edit the cfg file - bin/config_list -i list.cfg list, but I want to edit the options, that are the source for the creating new lists when I type the ./newlist command. Where is the default setting for new lists stored? I really can't find it. For example I'd like to have 'msg_footer' option set the same for all my lists, 'generic_nonmember_action' and many others set to my own default, when I create a new list. Is it possible? Where can I do it? Many thanks, Tomas End original message. - All of the list and server defaults are in the Defaults.py file but DO NOT change that one. It gets overwritten when Mailman is upgraded. You can put the settings you want in the mm_cfg.py file, this file is used to override defaults and set other options like msg_footer etc. at list creation. The settings you want have to be in that file when you create the list or they won't be set. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Topics and senders
Mark Sapiro wrote: Martin Dennett wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: If you enable delivery for these test members, do they receive either ordinary or urgent posts? Yep - both types. Just tried them out now. What Mailman version is this, and is it a package or a source install? I've only actually tested this on 2.1.5, but I see nothing in the code in other versions that would affect it. It's version 2.1.9.cp2, and a package. I'm with Site 5. Any replies may not get a response until Monday evening (UK time) as I'm away for the weekend starting Thursday morning. MD -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Topics and senders
Martin Dennett wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: What Mailman version is this, and is it a package or a source install? I've only actually tested this on 2.1.5, but I see nothing in the code in other versions that would affect it. It's version 2.1.9.cp2, and a package. I'm with Site 5. OK. I've tested this now with Mailman 2.1.9+ with the same result, namely an urgent message is sent to all list members regardless of delivery status, regular/digest or other filters. Thus, not sending urgent messages to delivery disabled members in your case is most likely a cPanel 'feature'. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.011.htp. In any case, it seems that using the Urgent: header for these kinds of messages is still a good solution for you as your Topics method didn't deliver to delivery disabled members either, nor did it deliver immediately to digest members, and the Urgent: header avoids the reply problem with topics. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Traceback
No One wrote: You are correct about the versions. I was assuming (I know, I know) that when I get mailman going it will handle the conversion. Is there something else I should do first? No. Mailman should handle the conversion without problem. It was the permissions problem that was preventing it from doing so. As to the rest, I ran check_perms a bunch of times and it reported no problems. However, with all the installing and uninstalling I must have not done it this last time. It fixed a host of problems that are usually there after an install. Now it runs. Thanks for your help. You're welcome. I'm glad it's working. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman scripts running with wrong group
I have mailman up an running but message are bouncing because of a complaint about the group that the scripts are running as. Here is the error: Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group mail, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group nogroup. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mail, or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. I have no idea what it is talking about. Is this a postfix issue or a mailman issue. Since I installed mailman as an rpm, I never ran a configure script. This was never an issue in the previous version. What do I need to do now? Thanks. - Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Size Limits of Files?
I had a user complain that she could not send mail, reply, or check Sent Mail. She would click on Sent and after awhile it would just download a file called right_main.php. After some checking I found that the file was pretty large 193MB, though there were other files that were larger, but still accessible. My 'fix' or hack, whatever you will call it, was to split the file into three sets (2005, 2006, 2007), using the same MAILMAN header for each file. I then subscribed to these new 'folders' and viola she had access to all of her Sent mail. I then moved the data from 2007 back into the actual Sent mail file. Now when she composes mail it will have some semblance of working correctly. My question is why did it break in the first place. -- In vino veritas. [In wine there is truth.] -- Pliny -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman scripts running with wrong group
Le Mercredi 4 Avril 2007 20:39, No One a écrit : I have mailman up an running but message are bouncing because of a complaint about the group that the scripts are running as. Here is the error: Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group mail, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group nogroup. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mail, or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. I have no idea what it is talking about. Is this a postfix issue or a mailman issue. Since I installed mailman as an rpm, I never ran a configure script. This was never an issue in the previous version. What do I need to do now? Thanks. Check the archives of this list. This issue has been covered. Pete -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman scripts running with wrong group
No One wrote: I have mailman up an running but message are bouncing because of a complaint about the group that the scripts are running as. Here is the error: Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group mail, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group nogroup. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mail, or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. I have no idea what it is talking about. Is this a postfix issue or a mailman issue. Since I installed mailman as an rpm, I never ran a configure script. This was never an issue in the previous version. What do I need to do now? Thanks. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.016.htp for information about this kind of error. What you really need to do is contact your packager, however I think in most cases, Postfix excecutes the pipe to Mailman using the user and group of the file in which it found the alias that contains the pipe to Mailman. So, you could try adjusting that. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Size Limits of Files?
Justin Denick wrote: I had a user complain that she could not send mail, reply, or check Sent Mail. She would click on Sent and after awhile it would just download a file called right_main.php. After some checking I found that the file was pretty large 193MB, though there were other files that were larger, but still accessible. My 'fix' or hack, whatever you will call it, was to split the file into three sets (2005, 2006, 2007), using the same MAILMAN header for each file. I then subscribed to these new 'folders' and viola she had access to all of her Sent mail. I then moved the data from 2007 back into the actual Sent mail file. Now when she composes mail it will have some semblance of working correctly. My question is why did it break in the first place. Did you really mean to send this question to the Mailman-Users list? If so, you have to provide a lot more detail to enable us to understand how it relates to Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] RSS
Jason [WeatherServer] wrote: Anyone have the RSS patch working with the latest version of Mailman or does Mailman have RSS built in and I just can't find it. I've got an RSS feed working with MhonArc, which I'm using as an external archiver. http://david.fallingrock.net/2005/07/22/rss-from-mhonarc/ david -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe
hi all.. what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?! thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe
kalin mintchev wrote: what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?! They're spelled differently. Otherwise, none. listname-join is a synonym for listname-subscribe just as listname-leave is a synonym for listname-unsubscribe. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe
so then what does it mean when i sent 3 different email requests to subscribe to a list and nothing happens.. the ways are: sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject and body 'subscribe'. mail log says: l350hXwM001076: to=|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay= 00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30923, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent or in other words this is turned over to mailman. after A FEW HOURS this turns up in the mailman subscribe log: Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:24 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] still i have not gotten the email where i'm supposed to confirm my subscription. my name is not in the queue? what's up with the delay? thanks kalin mintchev wrote: what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?! They're spelled differently. Otherwise, none. listname-join is a synonym for listname-subscribe just as listname-leave is a synonym for listname-unsubscribe. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/kalin%40el.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
