Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbe question - Can I do this with Mailman?

2007-06-18 Thread Brad Knowles 
On 6/18/07, AusArchitect wrote:

>  So each of the 30 companies will have 5 url's which will be in a email which
>  looks like it comes from them.
>  1 email = 5x url's to 5 pages on my site. for example.

Search the FAQ Wizard for "look and feel".  Read all articles that 
are returned, as well as the other related ones that you are referred 
to.

See also FAQs 1.22 and 1.23.

Once you've read those, if you have any further questions, please let 
us know what issues you have that were not addressed.

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I think we're going to have to fix this problem.  They are not 
authorized to act as a gateway of this list.  I think this has to 
stop.  See FAQ 1.18.

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[Mailman-Users] Newbe question - Can I do this with Mailman?

2007-06-18 Thread AusArchitect 

Hi,

Can I run Mailman on my linux webserver and have it do the following?

Each of my clients is a company with say 1000 clients of their own,
The 30 companies want to give me a email list with their 1000 clients.

I then need to send out 30,000 emails with each being taylored to those
companies graphics style (with their logo's, fonts etc from a template).

The killer is that across the 30 companies there are probably duplicate
email addresses, so i need to de-duplicate but also make sure that these
duplicates are sent mail (over a period of time) by all the companies they
are with. EG, company 1 would send dupe #1 on 1st email, Company 2 would
send dupe #1 on second email ( a week later ).

The email content will be the 5 url links which each company wants to send
out to their clients (links to pages on my website).

So each of the 30 companies will have 5 url's which will be in a email which
looks like it comes from them.
1 email = 5x url's to 5 pages on my site. for example.

Any help would be most apprecated.

Thanks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] moved lists and now they don't work

2007-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro 
carconni wrote:
>
>I had to move lists.  We had a hardware failure and they had to move  
>to our new mail server.  The mail server migration went fine and we  
>thought mailman moved okay as well but we were wrong.
>
>Earlier today I tried to create a new list and and got an error so my  
>boss said to check permissions.  I ran the /usr/share/mailman/bin/ 
>check_perms -f in every mailman file I could find but Im still  
>getting permission errors.  I even gave global permissions to all the  
>archives but no luck.


It doesn't matter where your current directory is. You just run

/usr/share/mailman/bin/check_perms -f

as root until it reports no errors.


>Right now, lists have stopped - they just aren't working and I just  
>can't figure out what the problem is.  The more we tried to fix it,  
>the worse it got.  Unfortunately my company heavily relies on them so  
>I figured before I set out to manually configure mail aliases, does  
>anyone know a way around this mess?
>
>from var/mailman/logs/error: (the permissions and ownership for the  
>client-list is -rw-r--r--   1 root  mailman  479 Jun 18 13:30 / 
>private/var/mailman/archives/private/client-list/index.html)


It should be group writable - i.e. -rw-rw-r--   1 root  mailman


>Jun 18 19:24:34 2007 (10816) SHUNTING: 1182219873.5167899 
>+ceff885a98ff1c83a23f7e83b4d94678813ee808
>Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10819) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1]  
>Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/archives/public/client- 
>list'
>Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10819) Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in  
>_oneloop
> self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in  
>_onefile
> keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line  
>133, in _dispose
> mlist.Save()
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 529, in Save
> self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir()
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 235,  
>in CheckHTMLArchiveDir
> breaklink(pubdir)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 55,  
>in breaklink
> os.unlink(link)
>OSError: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/ 
>archives/public/client-list'


I'm guessing when you backed up and moved from the old machines, you
wound up with files in /private/var/mailman/archives/public/

There should only be symlinks in that directory. Every
/private/var/mailman/archives/public/ and
/private/var/mailman/archives/public/ is a symlink to
the corresponding /private/var/mailman/archives/private/ and
/private/var/mailman/archives/private/ directory.

Either fixing that or simply removing everything in the
/private/var/mailman/archives/public/ will allow Mailman to recreate
the proper symlinks.


>Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10819) SHUNTING: 1182219935.3121431 
>+07ef8a32317dde697d0042ee151b8fd11d41b398
>Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10816) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13]  
>Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/client-list/ 
>index.html'
>Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10816) Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in  
>_oneloop
> self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in  
>_onefile
> keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in  
>_dispose
> mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 216,  
>in ArchiveMail
> h.close()
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 313,  
>in close
> self.write_TOC()
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line  
>1048, in write_TOC
> toc = open(os.path.join(self.basedir, 'index.html'), 'w')
>IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/ 
>private/client-list/index.html'
>
>Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10816) SHUNTING: 1182219935.3121431 
>+1f5997710b510ce2af03c4b18e68bca2a9a7cf5d
>Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10819) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1]  
>Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/archives/public/client- 
>list'
>Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10819) Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in  
>_oneloop
> self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in  
>_onefile
> keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line  
>133, in _dispose
> mlist.Save()
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 529, in Save
> self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir()
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 235,  
>in CheckHTMLArchiveDir
> breaklink(pubdir)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Arc

[Mailman-Users] moved lists and now they don't work

2007-06-18 Thread carconni 
Hi

I had to move lists.  We had a hardware failure and they had to move  
to our new mail server.  The mail server migration went fine and we  
thought mailman moved okay as well but we were wrong.

Earlier today I tried to create a new list and and got an error so my  
boss said to check permissions.  I ran the /usr/share/mailman/bin/ 
check_perms -f in every mailman file I could find but Im still  
getting permission errors.  I even gave global permissions to all the  
archives but no luck.

Right now, lists have stopped - they just aren't working and I just  
can't figure out what the problem is.  The more we tried to fix it,  
the worse it got.  Unfortunately my company heavily relies on them so  
I figured before I set out to manually configure mail aliases, does  
anyone know a way around this mess?

from var/mailman/logs/error: (the permissions and ownership for the  
client-list is -rw-r--r--   1 root  mailman  479 Jun 18 13:30 / 
private/var/mailman/archives/private/client-list/index.html)

Jun 18 19:24:34 2007 (10816) SHUNTING: 1182219873.5167899 
+ceff885a98ff1c83a23f7e83b4d94678813ee808
Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10819) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1]  
Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/archives/public/client- 
list'
Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10819) Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in  
_oneloop
 self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in  
_onefile
 keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line  
133, in _dispose
 mlist.Save()
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 529, in Save
 self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir()
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 235,  
in CheckHTMLArchiveDir
 breaklink(pubdir)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 55,  
in breaklink
 os.unlink(link)
OSError: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/ 
archives/public/client-list'

Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10819) SHUNTING: 1182219935.3121431 
+07ef8a32317dde697d0042ee151b8fd11d41b398
Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10816) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13]  
Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/client-list/ 
index.html'
Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10816) Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in  
_oneloop
 self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in  
_onefile
 keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in  
_dispose
 mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 216,  
in ArchiveMail
 h.close()
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 313,  
in close
 self.write_TOC()
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line  
1048, in write_TOC
 toc = open(os.path.join(self.basedir, 'index.html'), 'w')
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/ 
private/client-list/index.html'

Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10816) SHUNTING: 1182219935.3121431 
+1f5997710b510ce2af03c4b18e68bca2a9a7cf5d
Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10819) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1]  
Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/archives/public/client- 
list'
Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10819) Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in  
_oneloop
 self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in  
_onefile
 keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line  
133, in _dispose
 mlist.Save()
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 529, in Save
 self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir()
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 235,  
in CheckHTMLArchiveDir
 breaklink(pubdir)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 55,  
in breaklink
 os.unlink(link)
OSError: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/ 
archives/public/client-list'

Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10819) SHUNTING: 1182219952.298547 
+a97ef5907aa7d67744b62971add1b089b4336b32
Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10816) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13]  
Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/client-list/ 
index.html'
Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10816) Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in  
_oneloop
 self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in  
_onefile
 keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in  
_dispose
 mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation problem/permissions

2007-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro 
Christopher Adams wrote:

>Yes, I see that it is an Apache issue. In httpd.conf, for the Document
>Root, I have set:
>
>
>RewriteEngine On
>Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI
>AllowOverride None
>Order deny,allow
>Deny from all


So you are denying access to everyone not matching an applicable Allow.
Do you have an Allow directive somewhere that would allow access to
the mailman CGIs?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] People are dropping off several of our listservsand we don't know why

2007-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro 
Joellen Leavelle wrote:

>Hi.  My subject line basically says it all.  We run several listservs
>(both internal and external) and all of a sudden several people just
>stopped receiving the messages we sent.  At first we thought it was a
>problem with our internal e-mail set up, but a few months later other
>people started telling us that they hadn't received any listserv
>messages for 2 months.  Have any of you ever experienced this problem?
>If so, how do you fix it?  I've gone in to look at the subscription list
>and the people who aren't receiving the messages are still on the list.


And is their delivery enabled?


>As a side note, our vendor does not know what the problem is nor does he
>know how to fix it.  I'm posting here in hopes that there is something
>very simple that we are overlooking.


You should have all the notifications on the Bounce processing page set
to Yes.

You or your vendor should check Mailman's 'bounce' log to see if
bounces are being returned.

If the user's delivery is enabled, and they aren't bouncing, the
messages are getting spam filtered or otherwise dropped outside of
Mailman.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation problem/permissions

2007-06-18 Thread Christopher Adams 
On 6/18/07, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christopher Adams wrote:
> >
> >> What does the apache error_log say about this?
> >
> >client denied by server configuration: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create
>
>
> So this is an apache configuration issue, not a Mailman permissions
> issue. Do you have ExecCGI implicitly or explicitly on the
> /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ directory in the apache config plus all
> the other apache stuff like mod_cgi?

Yes, I see that it is an Apache issue. In httpd.conf, for the Document
Root, I have set:


RewriteEngine On
Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI
AllowOverride None
Order deny,allow
Deny from all


Options All

I also have a Directory entry for the /usr/local/mailman directory,
with ExecCGI specified, which I guess is redundant if I have it above.

As for mod_cgi, Apache says that it is loading it on startup.

I know this isn't and Apache mailing list, but if you have
suggestions, they are most welcome.

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[Mailman-Users] People are dropping off several of our listservs and we don't know why

2007-06-18 Thread Joellen Leavelle 
Hi.  My subject line basically says it all.  We run several listservs
(both internal and external) and all of a sudden several people just
stopped receiving the messages we sent.  At first we thought it was a
problem with our internal e-mail set up, but a few months later other
people started telling us that they hadn't received any listserv
messages for 2 months.  Have any of you ever experienced this problem?
If so, how do you fix it?  I've gone in to look at the subscription list
and the people who aren't receiving the messages are still on the list.

 

As a side note, our vendor does not know what the problem is nor does he
know how to fix it.  I'm posting here in hopes that there is something
very simple that we are overlooking.

 

I have been on this listserv for about a week and it seems that many of
you are much more technically-savvy than I am.  I apologize in advance
for not knowing things that may be basic.  Any advice you could give
would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

Joellen Leavelle
Communications Coordinator and Logistics Manager
Pension Rights Center
1350 Connecticut Avenue, NW
Suite 206
Washington, DC 20036
Phone: (202) 296-3776
Fax: (202) 296-1571
www.pensionrights.org 

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation problem/permissions

2007-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro 
Christopher Adams wrote:
>
>> What does the apache error_log say about this?
>
>client denied by server configuration: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create


So this is an apache configuration issue, not a Mailman permissions
issue. Do you have ExecCGI implicitly or explicitly on the
/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ directory in the apache config plus all
the other apache stuff like mod_cgi?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation problem/permissions

2007-06-18 Thread Christopher Adams 
>You don't trust check_perms?

Not sure about that.

> What does the apache error_log say about this?

client denied by server configuration: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create


> What are the ownership and permissions of the files in
> /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ ?


mailman.mailman
rwxr-sr-x
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation problem/permissions

2007-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro 
Christopher Adams wrote:
>
>I then ran make install. It seemed to work okay. I ran ./check_perms
>-f and all looks okay.
>
>I went to the mailman directory and did this:
>
>cd /usr/local/mailman
>chgrp mailman .
>chmod a+rx,g+ws


You don't trust check_perms?


>I added a ScriptAlias entry in the apache conf file:
>
>ScriptAlias /mailman/   /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
>
>I restarted Apache, Postfix, and Mailman.
>
>No matter what I do, if I go to the URL:
>
>http://mydomain.com/mailman/admin/create
>
>I get the message:
>
>"You don't have permission to access /mailman/ on this server."


What does the apache error_log say about this?

What are the ownership and permissions of the files in
/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ ?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman installation problem/permissions

2007-06-18 Thread Christopher Adams 
After a hardware failure, I am trying to install Mailman on another server.

As per the documentation, I added myself to the Mailman group and ran
the configure as me. I used --with-mail-gid=mailman and
--with-cgi-gid=www.

I then ran make install. It seemed to work okay. I ran ./check_perms
-f and all looks okay.

I went to the mailman directory and did this:

cd /usr/local/mailman
chgrp mailman .
chmod a+rx,g+ws

I added a ScriptAlias entry in the apache conf file:

ScriptAlias /mailman/   /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/

I restarted Apache, Postfix, and Mailman.

No matter what I do, if I go to the URL:

http://mydomain.com/mailman/admin/create

I get the message:

"You don't have permission to access /mailman/ on this server."

I tried doing the configure with actual gid number and tried using
different combinations such as mail-gid=postfix  and cgi-gid=nobody.
None of that seems to make a difference.

I would appreciate any ideas as to what is going on. It appears to be
a permissions problem but I would like to narrow it down one way or
another.

Thanks

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