[Mailman-Users] Re : same list name on 2 different domains

2007-07-17 Thread Enzo
Thanks for your help

In fact, i gonna do that also, i run into problem when i patch the source to 
support natively virtual domain...

Thanks

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Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] same list name on 2 different domains

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Enzo wrote:

 I can create list on both domains, but i can't create the same list with the 
 same name on these 2 different domains

 Is it possible ? if yes how ?

It is easy to configure, compile and install multiple Mailman instances, 
one for each domain. In the current context of disk sizes, CPU and memory, 
the extra resource usage is insignficiant.

I run the following script (edit for each domain desired, or create a 
script with substitutions) in the Mailman source directory, then make, and 
make install.

./configure --with-mail-gid=65533 --with-cgi-gid=www 
--with-mailhost=DomainName.ca --with-urlhost=www.DomainName.ca 
--prefix=/usr/local/mailman/DomainName --with-var-prefix=/var/mailman/Domainname

(script may vary depending on your specific situation)

Running multiple instances is only very slightly more work when the 
infrequent upgrade is required. But it allows me to try an upgrade on 
only one domain first, without putting all domains at risk.

Brett








  
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[Mailman-Users] Messages are not delivered?

2007-07-17 Thread Mohammad Reza jamshidian
Dear friends,
I have made a mailing list by Mailman. I tested that by subscribing 3 emails 
and sent email to the list.
All the emails delivered.
After I subscribed about 20,000 people to list, I tried again to send another 
post.
The post is not delivered to none of my colleagues emails!! and I guess it must 
not be delivered no where else.
I am in hurry to send email to the users to announce an exhibition.
Anybody can help?
Best for all,
Mohammad





 

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[Mailman-Users] Newsgroup interface and registration

2007-07-17 Thread David Beaumont
Our usenet newsgroup 'annexcafe' have started requiring registration, to
prevent spamming of the newsgroup.  However since they did this the
interface with out mailman list has stopped working both ways.  Emails no
longer get posted to the newsgroup and newsgroup postings no longer get sent
out as emails.  

The newsgroup now requires users to log in with their username and password,
but there is no option to put login details into mailman that I can find.
We have mailman v 2.1.8

Has any had this problem and got round it?  Or anyone know of newsgroup
providers that don't require login?  Or of any software that does emails,
web based forums and newsgroups in one?

Thanks

David


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[Mailman-Users] Format conversion - round 2

2007-07-17 Thread Bill Suarez
All,

I made the suggested changes to convert text/html to plain text and it did
improve the situation.

However I am still seeing a problem when a post originates from Hotmail. The
body of the message ends up being an attachment and the Mailman inserted
footer (our disclaimer) is all that is in the body of the message.

Any further guidance here?

Thanks in advance,
Bill Suarez

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are not delivered?

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mohammad Reza jamshidian wrote:

I have made a mailing list by Mailman. I tested that by subscribing 3 emails 
and sent email to the list.
All the emails delivered.
After I subscribed about 20,000 people to list, I tried again to send another 
post.
The post is not delivered to none of my colleagues emails!! and I guess it 
must not be delivered no where else.


Look in Mailman's 'smtp', 'smtp-failure' and 'error' logs.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newsgroup interface and registration

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Beaumont wrote:

The newsgroup now requires users to log in with their username and password,
but there is no option to put login details into mailman that I can find.
We have mailman v 2.1.8


From Defaults.py

# Set these variables if you need to authenticate to your NNTP server
for
# Usenet posting or reading.  If no authentication is necessary,
specify None
# for both variables.
NNTP_USERNAME = None
NNTP_PASSWORD = None


Set these in mm_cfg.py.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrivia Checks

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Barry Finkel wrote:

I am converting most of our Majordomo lists to Mailman.  After I
converted one list, the list administrator sent the command

 who LISTNAME

to the converted list.  It was not caught as administrivia.  In the
2.1.9 source Utils.py, I see 

ADMINDATA = {
# admin keyword: (minimum #args, maximum #args)
...
'who': (0, 0),

Is there a reason why the max #args for who is not set to 1 or 2 to
catch these commands?

 who password listname
 who listname
 who listname address=address


Actually, none of the above are valid Mailman email commands. Commands
are sent to listname-request, so listname is never part of the
command. However,

  who password
  who password address=address

are valid commands with 1 and 2 arguments. This was changed in 2002
when the individual command modules were added. Prior to this, the
only valid command was

  who

I suspect it was an oversight to not update the Utils.ADMINDATA
dictionary at that time, but I don't know. The following may have had
something to do with it, but I think on balance, catching

  who xxx yyy

as administrivia is the right thing to do. I'm going to change it.


Is it because the revised code would catch this (and similar) lines:

 Who is it?


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[Mailman-Users] Passing the list name to the cgi scripts, called with backticks in Perl

2007-07-17 Thread BobLaJolla
Hello,
 
In order to utilize my site's dynamic header, footer, banner ad  programs, 
etc., I am generating the mailman HTML enveloping content with a Perl  script, 
and calling mailman's cgi scripts, as appropriate, using a shell  command.  
Example below:
 
 
 
$listinfo_output =  `/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo`;
 
 
Note backticks to invoke this script from the shell in my  Perl script.


This successfully loads the variable $listinfo_output with the  output from 
the mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo command, from there I can print or  extract 
content from the HTML as useful.
 
My problem is, to get any list-specific output from the  mailman/cgi-bin/* 
scripts, I need to be able to pass the listname to the script  - and I can't 
figure out how to do this with the shell command.  If  I follow the standard 
syntax from the web (e.g.  `/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/somelist`) the 
shell looks for a  non-existent program in the non-existent listinfo directory 
(listinfo is,  of course, a script).
 
Using the scheme outlined above, how can I pass the listname to the  various 
cgi-bin scripts from mailman to capture their list-specific output for  
customized pages?  
 
I do realize there are templates for customizing the HTML, but  these are not 
useful for server side include files and scripts, on which my site  depends 
heavily.  
 
Thanks in advance...  :o)
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Passing the list name to the cgi scripts, called with backticks in Perl

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
BobLaJolla wrote:
 
My problem is, to get any list-specific output from the  mailman/cgi-bin/* 
scripts, I need to be able to pass the listname to the script  - and I can't 
figure out how to do this with the shell command.  If  I follow the standard 
syntax from the web (e.g.  `/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/somelist`) the 
shell looks for a  non-existent program in the non-existent listinfo directory 
(listinfo is,  of course, a script).
 
Using the scheme outlined above, how can I pass the listname to the  various 
cgi-bin scripts from mailman to capture their list-specific output for  
customized pages?  


You need to do what your web server does. Namely, in the above example,
it sets

PATH_INFO='/somelist'

in the environment it passes to the CGI. In general, an HTTP GET for a
URL like http://example.com/mailman/wrapper/more/stuff?query will
result in the web server setting

PATH_INFO='/more/stuff'
QUERY_STRING='query'

(and a bunch of other stuff, most of which we don't look at) in the
environment it passes to the wrapper.

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[Mailman-Users] problem in archiving the large mbox file

2007-07-17 Thread alpesh gajbe
I  am not sure whether this mail belongs to the users or developers list so
I am sending to both. Apologies.

I have a large 1.2 GB mbox file which i need to archive, the messages in
mbox typically have jpeg image attachments
whose approximate image sizes is 4 KB.
when i run arch script in /usr/lib/mailman/bin/ on my ubuntu 7.04 I get the
following error

*File /usr/lib/python2.5/os.py, line 172, in makedirs mkdir(name, mode)
OSError: [Errno 31] Too many links:

*My basic objective is to archive 250GB of mails every month for two years .
The size of which would exceed 7 Tera Bytes approx. Would this be a feasible
option using mailman.(out of curiosity !!)

What has been the largest mail archive volume anyone has ever deployed into
mailman ? (out of curiosity !!)

Regards
-Alpesh
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Passing the list name to the cgi scripts, called with back...

2007-07-17 Thread BobLaJolla
In a message dated 7/17/2007 1:16:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi  Mark - hope I don't sound obtuse, but how would I apply the  above to my 
 
backtick perl script call?


Disclaimer: I am not a Perl  programmer.

$ENV(PATH_INFO) = /somelist;
$listinfo_output =  `/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo`;

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This worked:
 
$ENV{'PATH_INFO'} = /somelist;
$listinfo_output =  `/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo`;

Thank you so much!  :oD
 
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[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe code

2007-07-17 Thread Chuck Puckett
Ooh, here's an embarrassment: I edited the user info page to be more like the 
rest of my web site (and to remove things that I didn't want the user to be 
able to do). Unfortunately, as I macheted the HTML, I apparently hacked away 
the form/text that deals with Unsubscribing. So I can no longer put my polite 
addendum in my mailings that instructs the recipient to visit that web page to 
unsubscribe, should they desire to do so.

 

Now obviously, no one will desire to do so (J), but I should be gentleman 
enough to offer it. Can someone send me the code that would normally display 
that options? Thanks 

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem in archiving the large mbox file

2007-07-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/18/07, alpesh gajbe wrote:

  I  am not sure whether this mail belongs to the users or developers list so
  I am sending to both. Apologies.

This sounds to me more like a question for -users.

  I have a large 1.2 GB mbox file which i need to archive, the messages in
  mbox typically have jpeg image attachments
  whose approximate image sizes is 4 KB.

4KB JPEGs?  That's pretty small for a JPEG.  You have over 300,000 of 
these messages per mailbox file?

  when i run arch script in /usr/lib/mailman/bin/ on my ubuntu 7.04 I get the
  following error

  *File /usr/lib/python2.5/os.py, line 172, in makedirs mkdir(name, mode)
  OSError: [Errno 31] Too many links:

That sounds like a directory problem, and not a file problem.  With 
as large a mailbox file as you're talking about, and as many messages 
as you're talking about, you probably need to break your archives 
more frequently than once a month.  Try breaking them weekly instead. 
Alternatively, try changing your underlying filesystem to one that 
supports large numbers of files in a single directory, and preferably 
does so with an internal hashed directory/inode structure (e.g., XFS).

Also keep in mind that you'll want to make sure that your OS is built 
to support large files (files over 2GB).  Many Linux distributions 
are not built out-of-the-box to support large files.

Finally, the version of Python that is recommended for use with the 
latest release version of Mailman, is Python 2.4.x for Mailman 2.1.9, 
for whatever the most recent version of Python 2.4.x (currently 
2.4.3, I believe).  More recent versions of Python may or may not 
work with Mailman 2.1.9, and almost certainly will not work correctly 
with earlier versions of Mailman.

  *My basic objective is to archive 250GB of mails every month for two years .
  The size of which would exceed 7 Tera Bytes approx. Would this be a feasible
  option using mailman.(out of curiosity !!)

That should be possible.  We have 4GB worth of archives for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] going back to 1999, and I'm pretty sure those 
messages are text-only or text+code fragments.

  What has been the largest mail archive volume anyone has ever deployed into
  mailman ? (out of curiosity !!)

We've got some information in the FAQ Wizard about large mailing 
lists servers with regards to numbers of subscribers or numbers of 
messages, but I don't know that anyone has tried to gather any 
specific information with regards to large sizes of archives.

The largest archives I am personally aware of are the ones we have 
for python-list, but I'd love to hear any information that anyone 
else has about any others.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] admin web interface is not saving changes and asksme to re-enter password

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Cornils, Karin wrote:

This is on a Debian 4 package installation of Mailman 2.1.9 w. Apache2.


I have tried all the FAQ suggestions in the FAQs that seem to relate to
this issue: 

 

4.71

4.45

4.27

4.2.9

4.65

4.69  

 

All  to no avail - details below - does anyone have any other
suggestions?



It has to be a cookie issue. When you enter a valid password, the
authentication page sets a session cookie with authentication data.
This cookie is for the domain of the authentication page and has a
name which is listname+context. E.g., for login with the admin
password for mylist, the name of the cookie is mylist+admin. The
cookie data are used to validate the cookie.

Can you see this cookie in your browser after you log in? It is a
session cookie, and I don't think you can see it in MSIE, at least I
don't know how - it's not with the persistent cookies in Temporary
Internet Files.

Have you tried different browsers, different computers?

The issue pretty much has to be that the cookie isn't getting to the
browser because it is blocked on the way, the browser isn't accepting
it, the browser isn't returning it because it's not for the right
domain, or it is being blocked on the way back to the web server.

Ideally, you could run a packet sniffer on the connection and see if
the cookie is going back and forth. This would at least localize the
problem to the work station or the host.

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