[Mailman-Users] Changing the received time on an outgoing authorized email message?
When authorizing a moderated list posting is it possible to change the date/time on the outgoing authorized list message to the time it was approved instead of the message showing the time it was first received by mailman? Thanks Paul -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman refusing to stop/start with errors PID unreadable
We are currently in the process of moving our mailing lists to a new virtual server. The new server is using Webmin/Virtualmin 'control panel'. When installed, Mailman appears in the control panel and we can set up our lists without a problem. However, we have, twice had Mailman suddenly stop working. If we issue a shell command to mailmanctl to STOP using /var/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop we get the following warning that the PID in unreadable. Shutting down Mailman's master qrunner PID unreadable in: /var/run/mailman/mailman.pid [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/run/mailman/mailman.pid' Is qrunner even running? Attempting to restart the qrunner using: /var/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start Produces a series of warning messages and the qrunner does not restart. Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 554, in ? main() File /var/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 389, in main lock = acquire_lock(force) File /var/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 213, in acquire_lock lock = acquire_lock_1(force) File /var/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 198, in acquire_lock_1 lock.lock(0.1) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py, line 243, in lock self.__write() File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py, line 422, in __write fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w') IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/mailman/locks/master-qrunner.airedale.9290.1' Our only solution, so far, has been to remove and reinstall Mailman. This is OK whilst we are setting everything up but will not be adequate once we 'go live'. Can anyone offer a solution? It isn't clear what is triggering this occurrence... :-( Any insight and advice gratefully received. Andrew -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Bounce processing
Hi, My bounce processing is set to: The maximum member bounce score before the member's subscription is disabled. This value can be a floating point number. 3.0 The number of days after which a member's bounce information is discarded, if no new bounces have been received in the interim. This value must be an integer. 4 How many Your Membership Is Disabled warnings a disabled member should get before their address is removed from the mailing list. Set to 0 to immediately remove an address from the list once their bounce score exceeds the threshold. This value must be an integer. 2 The number of days between sending the Your Membership Is Disabled warnings. This value must be an integer. 2 The problem is that on the 25 July I had 2000 users accounts set to disabled as they reached the threshold of 3.0 warning emails were sent out. Nothing has happened since no second warning message also the accounts haven't been unsubscribed. Is there anything I can check to see why this process is not working? Thanks Trevor This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Is it possible to filter what is archived?
If you assume Mailman is configured for an organisation as a hierarchical structure of umbrealla lists.. e.g.: ALL@ - Dept1@, Dept2@, Dept3@ Dept1@ - Dept1admin@, dept1engineers@ Dept2@ - Dept2admin@, dept2engineers@ Dept3@ - Dept3admin@, dept3engineers@ When archiving, it can get a bit messy when e-mails to ALL@ get archived in all of the sub lists the messages pass through. What I would like to do is filter what gets archived so that if a message originates in mailman (ie from an umbrella list) it doesn't get archived. Any thoughts? I appreciate this may not be possible. -- Kind Regards, __ Mike Peachey, IT Tel: +44 114 281 2655 Fax: +44 114 281 2951 Jennic Ltd, Furnival Street, Sheffield, S1 4QT, UK Comp Reg No: 3191371 - Registered In England http://www.jennic.com __ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problem with archives and escaping of From
Running mailman 2.1.9-7 on Debian 4.0. The archive for one of my lists played up today and two extra entries appeared containing only the tail end of a seperate post. It turns out that the archive software got confused when it came across a line in the body that started From and had been properly escaped to From in the mbox file. It treated that as the start of the e-mail. Deleting the appears to unconfused the archive software and the messages appeared as they should. Am I getting my head in a twist, shouldn't the behavior have been the other way around? Thanks, James -- http://www.freecharity.org.uk/ - Free IT services for charities http://www.freecharity.org.uk/wiki/ - The VCSWiki -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] 550 User Unknown when trying to post to mailman/sendmail list
On 8/1/07, Melick Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I setup mailman without any issues I think. I also have configured sendmail to work with mailman. I followed the directions by David Champion to integrate these two applications. I can telnet and my sendmail server seems to be responding fine as well as I can create email lists in the mailman web interface. Im confused at this point from the directions. I do not understand how mailman interacts with sendmail. I do not have anything in my virtusertable and my mm-handler is default. I have compiled my mailman.mc as sendmail.cf and put it in the working dir. How does mailman create the sendmail users or does it use an alias for all of the lists? All I get is unknown user when I try to send to my lists. Any help would be great Did you add the list aliases to the Sendmail alias file? If you did, did you run newaliases? I can't recall if you need to restart Sendmail for the new aliases to take effect, but I always do, so did you restart Sendmail? -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing
Trevor Dodds wrote: The problem is that on the 25 July I had 2000 users accounts set to disabled as they reached the threshold of 3.0 warning emails were sent out. Nothing has happened since no second warning message also the accounts haven't been unsubscribed. Once delivery is disabled by bounce, the rest of the process depends on Mailman's cron jobs, specifically cron/disabled. Are these being run? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface bug after restore mailman
Cen Gao wrote: Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/mailman//scripts/driver, line 82, in run_main immediate=1) File /usr/local/bin/mailman//Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 52, in __init__ Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) File /usr/local/bin/mailman//Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 50, in __init__ self.__get_f() File /usr/local/bin/mailman//Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 68, in __get_f 1) File /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/codecs.py, line 566, in open file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/bin/mailman/logs/error' snip FYI, the log directory and even all the mailman directory is owned by mailman:mailman The web server cannot write the error log. Are all the wrappers in $mailman/cgi-bin/ group mailman and do they all have the SETGID bit set? E.g., -rwxr-sr-x mailman If this is OK, I seem to recall some Apple issue mentioned on this list a couple of years ago. Search the archives. http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.018.htp Was there anything else on the page before this about the initial problem that it was trying to write to the error log? And in /logs/error , it says Aug 01 00:02:04 2007 (432) Uncaught runner exception: multipart message with no defined boundary Aug 01 00:02:04 2007 (432) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/mailman//Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 100, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/local/bin/mailman//Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 164, in dequ eue msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message) File /usr/local/bin/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py, line 51, in message _from_string return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parsestr(s) File /usr/local/bin/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py, line 75, in parsestr return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly) File /usr/local/bin/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py, line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File /usr/local/bin/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py, line 246, in _parsebo dy raise Errors.BoundaryError( BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary Aug 01 00:02:04 2007 (432) Ignoring unparseable message: 1181090435.8718021+ee06 64d951288e0b7e6fb4b4e2b0efdc18362709 This error is from an incoming post that is unparseable - almost certainly spam. The message was discarded. and this error log has only been written twice since I restored this directory, although I've accessed the web page tons of times. The web server can't write the error log. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] 550 User Unknown when trying to post to mailman/sendmail list
Hello, I setup mailman without any issues I think. I also have configured sendmail to work with mailman. I followed the directions by David Champion to integrate these two applications. I can telnet and my sendmail server seems to be responding fine as well as I can create email lists in the mailman web interface. Im confused at this point from the directions. I do not understand how mailman interacts with sendmail. I do not have anything in my virtusertable and my mm-handler is default. I have compiled my mailman.mc as sendmail.cf and put it in the working dir. How does mailman create the sendmail users or does it use an alias for all of the lists? All I get is unknown user when I try to send to my lists. Any help would be great Thanks, Andy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Fw: 550 User Unknown when trying to post tomailman/sendmail list
What about OS? I have the same problems FreeBSD 6.2... Geo - Original Message - From: Melick Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 5:39 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] 550 User Unknown when trying to post tomailman/sendmail list Hello, I setup mailman without any issues I think. I also have configured sendmail to work with mailman. I followed the directions by David Champion to integrate these two applications. I can telnet and my sendmail server seems to be responding fine as well as I can create email lists in the mailman web interface. Im confused at this point from the directions. I do not understand how mailman interacts with sendmail. I do not have anything in my virtusertable and my mm-handler is default. I have compiled my mailman.mc as sendmail.cf and put it in the working dir. How does mailman create the sendmail users or does it use an alias for all of the lists? All I get is unknown user when I try to send to my lists. Any help would be great Thanks, Andy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/fbsdolot%40cit.ru Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface bug after restore mailman
Hi Mark: thanks again for your help On 8/1/07, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cen Gao wrote: Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/mailman//scripts/driver, line 82, in run_main immediate=1) File /usr/local/bin/mailman//Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 52, in __init__ Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) File /usr/local/bin/mailman//Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 50, in __init__ self.__get_f() File /usr/local/bin/mailman//Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 68, in __get_f 1) File /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/codecs.py, line 566, in open file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/bin/mailman/logs/error' snip FYI, the log directory and even all the mailman directory is owned by mailman:mailman The web server cannot write the error log. Are all the wrappers in $mailman/cgi-bin/ group mailman and do they all have the SETGID bit set? E.g., -rwxr-sr-x mailman Yes, all the wrappers in cgi-bin have -rwxr-sr-x mailman:mailman. Does this bug come out just because of the webserver cannot write error logs? It seems that everything in the logs/ directory has been written correctly. (smtp,post,etc.) Ever the error log, if I mistakenly type in bin/mailmanctl without any argument,this action was immediately written this in the error log If this is OK, I seem to recall some Apple issue mentioned on this list a couple of years ago. Search the archives. http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.018.htp Was there anything else on the page before this about the initial problem that it was trying to write to the error log? no, I paste every line in the trackback python informtaion sections here. And the weird thing is mailman works prefectly well even yesterday morning on exactly the same machine. Then I backup it, reinstall the OS, copy it back, Set the httpd and cron. Now the mailman works but just the web interface down.I carefully checked every singe directory to make sure the file owner and privilege are exactly the same as before. I really have no clue here. And in /logs/error , it says Aug 01 00:02:04 2007 (432) Uncaught runner exception: multipart message with no defined boundary Aug 01 00:02:04 2007 (432) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/mailman//Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 100, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/local/bin/mailman//Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 164, in dequ eue msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message) File /usr/local/bin/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py, line 51, in message _from_string return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parsestr(s) File /usr/local/bin/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py, line 75, in parsestr return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly) File /usr/local/bin/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py, line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File /usr/local/bin/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py, line 246, in _parsebo dy raise Errors.BoundaryError( BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary Aug 01 00:02:04 2007 (432) Ignoring unparseable message: 1181090435.8718021+ee06 64d951288e0b7e6fb4b4e2b0efdc18362709 This error is from an incoming post that is unparseable - almost certainly spam. The message was discarded. Yeah, checked the pervious error log, it seems those same errors have been written all the time even when mailman works well. So I don't think that will cause a problem either. and this error log has only been written twice since I restored this directory, although I've accessed the web page tons of times. The web server can't write the error log. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] 550 User Unknown when trying to post tomailman/sendmail list
Melick Andy wrote: I didn't see anything like this in the mailman directions about creating an alias file. I do not have a alias file do I need to create one? Can you provide me with an example of an entry? How do I run newaliases? These don't apply with mm-handler. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] 550 User Unknown when trying to post to mailman/sendmail list
Bryan, I didn't see anything like this in the mailman directions about creating an alias file. I do not have a alias file do I need to create one? Can you provide me with an example of an entry? How do I run newaliases? Thanks, Andy From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 10:17 AM To: Melick Andy Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 550 User Unknown when trying to post to mailman/sendmail list On 8/1/07, Melick Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I setup mailman without any issues I think. I also have configured sendmail to work with mailman. I followed the directions by David Champion to integrate these two applications. I can telnet and my sendmail server seems to be responding fine as well as I can create email lists in the mailman web interface. Im confused at this point from the directions. I do not understand how mailman interacts with sendmail. I do not have anything in my virtusertable and my mm-handler is default. I have compiled my mailman.mc as sendmail.cf and put it in the working dir. How does mailman create the sendmail users or does it use an alias for all of the lists? All I get is unknown user when I try to send to my lists. Any help would be great Did you add the list aliases to the Sendmail alias file? If you did, did you run newaliases? I can't recall if you need to restart Sendmail for the new aliases to take effect, but I always do, so did you restart Sendmail? -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] 550 User Unknown when trying to post tomailman/sendmail list
I added an entry to virtusertable and now I get this error when trying to send messages to my list. Before I was getting user doesn't exist. Mailman is a subdomain on my domain. I did this from looking at someone else example, but not certain if its right. my virtusertable: mailman.domain.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] #5.0.0 smtp;554 5.0.0 rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50), ruleset canonify From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 10:33 AM To: Melick Andy; Bryan Carbonnell Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 550 User Unknown when trying to post tomailman/sendmail list Melick Andy wrote: I didn't see anything like this in the mailman directions about creating an alias file. I do not have a alias file do I need to create one? Can you provide me with an example of an entry? How do I run newaliases? These don't apply with mm-handler. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface bug after restore mailman
Hi Mark: Thanks for your help. Never mind, now it works I simply remove the log file and let mailman regenerate it, just as you advised in a previous email on this list. Now the owner is www instead of mailman, and the web interface is back online. I thought it might be the group +w thing that cause www user cannot write to error log. Sorry that I should check it more carefully. Thanks Cen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Stuck Notifications
I have a mailing list that every day sends me reminders that there are messages awaiting moderation, however, when I go to the admin area, there are no messages shown. I have even removed and replaced the list. Anyone know how to get rid of these inaccurate daily notices? Jon Berry Green Olive Tree -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Stuck Notifications
On 8/1/07, Jon Berry wrote: I have a mailing list that every day sends me reminders that there are messages awaiting moderation, however, when I go to the admin area, there are no messages shown. Did you read FAQ 3.38? -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman refusing to stop/start with errors PID unreadable
On 8/1/07, Andrew Steele wrote: We are currently in the process of moving our mailing lists to a new virtual server. The new server is using Webmin/Virtualmin 'control panel'. Unfortunately, when you incorporate other packages into the mix, it's difficult for us to tell what problems might be caused by what parts of the system. Our only solution, so far, has been to remove and reinstall Mailman. This is OK whilst we are setting everything up but will not be adequate once we 'go live'. Looking at what you've given us so far, it's hard to tell but I'm wondering if maybe you don't have two separate and competing installations of Mailman on this machine? Perhaps one that expects things to be in one set of locations, and one that expects things to be in a different set of locations. At least one of these installations appears to be a binary package that was created by your OS vendor or someone else not associated with the Mailman project, so they may be better suited to answering your questions. Can anyone offer a solution? It isn't clear what is triggering this occurrence... :-( Any insight and advice gratefully received. Unfortunately, you're using a lot of other software that we are not generally familiar with, and from our perspective we can't think of anything that might cause these problems from within our code, but of course we can't be 100% certain. You really need to find someone who has deep knowledge of those other bits of code, as well as knowledge of how those interface to Mailman. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the received time on an outgoing authorized email message?
On 8/1/07, Paul Key wrote: When authorizing a moderated list posting is it possible to change the date/time on the outgoing authorized list message to the time it was approved instead of the message showing the time it was first received by mailman? I'm not aware of any ability to do this with Mailman, although there are aspects of the moderation interface that I don't use. You might be able to make changes to the message, re-submit the message as the originator, and then go through the moderation process again. Other than that, I don't see any obvious solution to this problem that doesn't involve writing custom code. However, you should check the Mailman patches page on SourceForge to see if anyone else has had this problem and created a suggested solution. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it possible to filter what is archived?
On 8/1/07, Mike Peachey wrote: What I would like to do is filter what gets archived so that if a message originates in mailman (ie from an umbrella list) it doesn't get archived. If you write some custom code and put that into the appropriate handler, or you write your own custom handler, it should not be difficult to achieve what you're looking for. Check the Mailman patches page at SourceForge, just in case someone has already done the same sort of thing. Other than that, I am not personally aware of any obvious ways to achieve your goal. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing
On 8/1/07, Trevor Dodds wrote: Is there anything I can check to see why this process is not working? Check your queue runners to see if they're working. It's not directly related to what you're talking about, but there's a good set of troubleshooting suggestions in FAQ 4.78 that should be mostly applicable to your situation. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Fw: problem in Makefile for mailman
Mailman Makefile contains: -- .if defined(WITH_SENDMAIL) MAIL_GID?= mailnull .endif But after installation (FreeBSD 6.2, /usr/ports/mail/mailman) when I send any message to mailman list I receive the error: -Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mailwrapper script to be executed as group mailman, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group mailnull. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mailman, or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=mailnull'.-- What (and how!) can I do to set MAIL_GID= mailnull? If I understand I'll describe this in detail for mailman users! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with archives and escaping of From
James Davis wrote: Running mailman 2.1.9-7 on Debian 4.0. The archive for one of my lists played up today and two extra entries appeared containing only the tail end of a seperate post. It turns out that the archive software got confused when it came across a line in the body that started From and had been properly escaped to From in the mbox file. It treated that as the start of the e-mail. Deleting the appears to unconfused the archive software and the messages appeared as they should. Am I getting my head in a twist, shouldn't the behavior have been the other way around? I'm just agreeing with you that the above seems backwards. The archiver 'stringifies' the message both for the .mbox file and for the subsequent archiving in the pipermail archive. The conversion of an email message object to a string will always escape any From_ lines in the body with . The subsequent archiver should not consider any From_ body lines as message separators. I have no idea what's going on in the above scenario. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the received time on an outgoingauthorized email message?
Brad Knowles wrote: On 8/1/07, Paul Key wrote: When authorizing a moderated list posting is it possible to change the date/time on the outgoing authorized list message to the time it was approved instead of the message showing the time it was first received by mailman? I'm not aware of any ability to do this with Mailman, although there are aspects of the moderation interface that I don't use. You might be able to make changes to the message, re-submit the message as the originator, and then go through the moderation process again. See FAQ at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.009.htp for more on this. Other than that, I don't see any obvious solution to this problem that doesn't involve writing custom code. Correct, however mailman does currently add an X-Mailman-Approved-At: header to the approved post with the local time of approval. For some purposes at least, this might suffice (now that you know it's there). You could also modify the code in Mailman/ListAdmin.py that adds this header to mung the Date: header instead if that's really important, but my opinion is the poster's original date should be preserved. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it possible to filter what is archived?
Mike Peachey wrote: What I would like to do is filter what gets archived so that if a message originates in mailman (ie from an umbrella list) it doesn't get archived. I'm pretty sure this isn't what you're asking for, but you could just turn off archiving on all the umbrella lists so the posts are only archived in the 'final' lists. I know this results in duplicate archived messages for different 'final' lists, but if I'm a member of listx, I want to see listx posts in listx's archive regardless of whether they came directly or via one or more umbrellas. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface bug after restore mailman
Cen Gao wrote: Thanks for your help. Never mind, now it works I simply remove the log file and let mailman regenerate it, just as you advised in a previous email on this list. Now the owner is www instead of mailman, and the web interface is back online. This is a workaround. It is not the proper fix for the underlying problem. The log files should not need to be owned by the web server user because the wrappers are group mailman and SETGID, y the time the web server wants to write a log, et should be executing with effective GID 'mailman' and the logs should be group mailman and group writable. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Stuck Notifications
Jon Berry wrote I have a mailing list that every day sends me reminders that there are messages awaiting moderation, however, when I go to the admin area, there are no messages shown. Unless this is the -1 requests of FAQ 3.38, and I doubt that it is, in every one of these occurrences for which a resolution has been reported, the problem is that there is a second set of Mailman cron jobs (or maybe the only set of Mailman cron jobs) that are pointing to a different (old, test, whatever) Mailman installation. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Messages take over an hour to pass through mailman
I am trying to determine why emails to lists sometimes take well in excess of an hoursometimes 4 Is there anyway to determine where the issue lies? regards Steven Jones Senior Linux/Unix/San System Administrator APG -Technology Integration Team Victoria University of Wellington Phone: +64 4 463 6272 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages take over an hour to pass through mailman
On 8/2/07, Steven Jones wrote: I am trying to determine why emails to lists sometimes take well in excess of an hoursometimes 4 Is there anyway to determine where the issue lies? Look at the logs. Correlate the message-ids in the MTA logs (sendmail, postfix, whatever) with the message-ids in the Mailman logs (presumably in /usr/local/mailman/logs, or elsewhere as appropriate for your installation), and then do the same for the outbound traffic (going back to the MTA logs with the ids of the messages as they are generated by Mailman). That's about the only way I know of. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface bug after restore mailman
Mark Sapiro wrote: This is a workaround. It is not the proper fix for the underlying problem. The log files should not need to be owned by the web server user because the wrappers are group mailman and SETGID, y the time the web server wants to write a log, et should be executing with effective GID 'mailman' and the logs should be group mailman and group writable. Sorry, part of that was a bit garbled. It should say ... at the time the web server wants to write a log, it should be executing ... -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fw: problem in Makefile for mailman
Geo wrote: Mailman Makefile contains: -- .if defined(WITH_SENDMAIL) MAIL_GID?= mailnull .endif This is not our Makefile. I can only guess that it is a FreeBSD port Makefile. But after installation (FreeBSD 6.2, /usr/ports/mail/mailman) when I send any message to mailman list I receive the error: -Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mailwrapper script to be executed as group mailman, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group mailnull. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mailman, or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=mailnull'.-- What (and how!) can I do to set MAIL_GID= mailnull? If I understand I'll describe this in detail for mailman users! I answered this question as best as I could a few days ago. The answer is at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-July/057812.html. If you have questions about my answer, please be specific as to what they are. Otherwise, this is a FreeBSD issue and you might have better luck persuing it using FreeBSD resources. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages take over an hour to pass throughmailman
Brad Knowles wrote: On 8/2/07, Steven Jones wrote: I am trying to determine why emails to lists sometimes take well in excess of an hoursometimes 4 Is there anyway to determine where the issue lies? Look at the logs. Correlate the message-ids in the MTA logs (sendmail, postfix, whatever) with the message-ids in the Mailman logs (presumably in /usr/local/mailman/logs, or elsewhere as appropriate for your installation), and then do the same for the outbound traffic (going back to the MTA logs with the ids of the messages as they are generated by Mailman). That's about the only way I know of. Also see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-July/057755.html -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface bug after restore mailman
Cen Gao wrote: Yes, all the wrappers in cgi-bin have -rwxr-sr-x mailman:mailman. Does this bug come out just because of the webserver cannot write error logs? No. The original error is something else which may or may not have anything to do with log files, but then scripts/driver attempts to log the error and can't write the error log, and this is the traceback. It seems that everything in the logs/ directory has been written correctly. (smtp,post,etc.) Ever the error log, if I mistakenly type in bin/mailmanctl without any argument,this action was immediately written this in the error log That's because all the log entries you mention are written by mailmanctl or qrunners which presumably are executing as group mailman. It is only the web server that can't write the log(s). If this is OK, I seem to recall some Apple issue mentioned on this list a couple of years ago. Search the archives. http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.018.htp Is this Max OS X Server with Apple's mailman or is it your own Mailman installed from source? If the former, item 8) in http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-July/038388.html might be of interest. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] 550 User Unknown when trying to post tomailman/sendmail list
Melick Andy wrote: I added an entry to virtusertable and now I get this error when trying to send messages to my list. Before I was getting user doesn't exist. Mailman is a subdomain on my domain. I did this from looking at someone else example, but not certain if its right. my virtusertable: mailman.domain.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] =20 #5.0.0 smtp;554 5.0.0 rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50), ruleset canonify All I know about mm-handler is what I read in README.mm-handler. I know even less about Sendmail. This is contributed software provided as-is without support be the Mailman project. See the README file in the contrib directory. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages take over an hour to pass throughmailman
Thanks to both, I don't think its DNS as the mailman server is smarthost'd in sendmail to go to a outgoing smtp serverso why it would do dns lookups I don't know... regards Steven Jones Senior Linux/Unix/San System Administrator APG -Technology Integration Team Victoria University of Wellington Phone: +64 4 463 6272 Mobile: +64 27 563 6272 -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 4:25 p.m. To: Brad Knowles; Steven Jones; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages take over an hour to pass throughmailman Brad Knowles wrote: On 8/2/07, Steven Jones wrote: I am trying to determine why emails to lists sometimes take well in excess of an hoursometimes 4 Is there anyway to determine where the issue lies? Look at the logs. Correlate the message-ids in the MTA logs (sendmail, postfix, whatever) with the message-ids in the Mailman logs (presumably in /usr/local/mailman/logs, or elsewhere as appropriate for your installation), and then do the same for the outbound traffic (going back to the MTA logs with the ids of the messages as they are generated by Mailman). That's about the only way I know of. Also see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-July/057755.html -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages take over an hour to pass throughmailman
On 8/2/07, Steven Jones wrote: Thanks to both, I don't think its DNS as the mailman server is smarthost'd in sendmail to go to a outgoing smtp serverso why it would do dns lookups I don't know... It all depends on the MTA configuration of whatever machine Mailman is connecting to port 25 and doing the initial delivery. That's the machine you need to check. As far as this is concerned, there's nothing within Mailman itself that you can check or fix -- this is an MTA issue instead. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface bug after restore mailman
thanks mark. I'll look into it and see if any other problem come around in the future. My mailman is complied from the source,since my OS X is not a server version. So I should be on the same boat as most of you guys .:) I'll keep you updated. Thanks again. Cen On 8/2/07, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: This is a workaround. It is not the proper fix for the underlying problem. The log files should not need to be owned by the web server user because the wrappers are group mailman and SETGID, y the time the web server wants to write a log, et should be executing with effective GID 'mailman' and the logs should be group mailman and group writable. Sorry, part of that was a bit garbled. It should say ... at the time the web server wants to write a log, it should be executing ... -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Admin access for list creator
Hello Mailman Users Is there a way for a list-creator to access the admin section of different lists? My password allows me to create lists, but not access the admin section of various lists whose administrators have their own passwords. Thanks in advance for any clues. regards Mark Dale -- Mark Dale phone: 02 6112 8632 mobile: 0403 831 748 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
