Re: [Mailman-Users] Out of the Office Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 42, Issue 27

2007-08-16 Thread nbogaty
I will be out of the office beginning on Friday, August 17th and will return to 
the office on Monday, August 27th.  I will be checking email only occasionally. 
 If this is an emergency, you can leave a voicemail at 212-924-9081.  
Otherwise, I will respond to your email when I return to the office on 8/27.

Thanks,
Nick Bogaty

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[Mailman-Users] Restore deleted list!

2007-08-16 Thread Bert Homveld
Dear Mailman-users,

How can I restore a mailinglist, which has been deleted?

Greetings,

Bert Homveld
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[Mailman-Users] Traslator?

2007-08-16 Thread Pablo Allietti
Hi all i have running mailman in my server and i received in a list
messages from 3 members languages

English - Spanish - French

is possible to use any tool to traslate this messages in a web like 

http://www.carisnet.org/index.php?path=en/prj_imp

this server have a list and the mailman file, and traslate any message
automagically to the 3 languages..
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing by email?

2007-08-16 Thread Todd Zullinger
Brad Knowles wrote:
  Also does mailman 2.1.3 support the sending of a blank email to
  listname[EMAIL PROTECTED] ? (or some similar address) instead
  of the subscribe email via request?
 
 Sure.  Just set up your aliases to support that.  Mailman doesn't
 actually see anything of the addresses that were used to submit the
 messages, it just takes the command-line options it's passed via the
 alias definition.

There should be no need to add aliases for that, they already exist.
The listname-join (and listname-leave) aliases will ignore the
subject and body.

The mailman list admin manual says this:

1.1 A List's Email Addresses

[...]

  • [EMAIL PROTECTED] - by sending a message to this address, a
new member can request subscription to the list. Both the
Subject: header and body of such a message are ignored. Note that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is an alias for the -join address.

  • [EMAIL PROTECTED] - by sending a message to this address,
a member can request unsubscription from the list. As with the
-join address, the Subject: header and body of the message is
ignored. Note that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an alias for
the -leave address.

I don't know for sure if these were in 2.1.3, but I suspect they were.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Out of the Office Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 42, Issue 27

2007-08-16 Thread Brad Knowles
On 8/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I will be out of the office beginning on Friday, August 17th and will
  return to the office on Monday, August 27th.  I will be checking email
  only occasionally.  If this is an emergency, you can leave a voicemail
  at 212-924-9081.  Otherwise, I will respond to your email when I return
  to the office on 8/27.

Your out-of-office auto-reply went out to the entire mailing list. 
This is not appropriate.

I've set you to NOMAIL and moderated, and when you get back in the 
office you can come talk to us about the problems your auto-responder 
has caused -- please send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If we can 
be convinced that this problem will not recur, we will allow you to 
be unmoderated and to start receiving mail again from the list.

And yes, I did mean for a copy of this response to be posted to the 
list as well.


Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Auto-discard notification

2007-08-16 Thread Daniel Ojo
Help,

I am trying to send a message to a list I am an owner of and I received this 
message.


 Original Message 
Subject:Auto-discard notification
Date:   Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:45:40 -0400
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The attached message has been automatically discarded.


Anyone have an idea what the issue is?

Thanks, Daniel.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-discard notification

2007-08-16 Thread Dragon
Daniel Ojo sent the message below at 15:27 8/16/2007:
Help,

I am trying to send a message to a list I am an owner of and I received this
message.


 Original Message 
Subject:Auto-discard notification
Date:   Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:45:40 -0400
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The attached message has been automatically discarded.


Anyone have an idea what the issue is?

Thanks, Daniel.

 End original message. -

The owner and/or moderator are not automatically members of a list, 
in order to post to a members only list, you must be subscribed to it 
and have your moderation bit turned off.

If you are not a member and you have the non-member post action set 
to discard, the post you attempt to send will be discarded.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Out of the Office Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 42, Issue 27

2007-08-16 Thread Dawn Kolb
Am I missing something?  What problems did his auto-responder cause?  I just
want to know in case I forget to disable any lists that I am on.  Or is it
something specific to him because he is a co-moderator of this list?

Dawn Kolb

On 8/16/07, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 8/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I will be out of the office beginning on Friday, August 17th and will
   return to the office on Monday, August 27th.  I will be checking email
   only occasionally.  If this is an emergency, you can leave a voicemail
   at 212-924-9081.  Otherwise, I will respond to your email when I return
   to the office on 8/27.

 Your out-of-office auto-reply went out to the entire mailing list.
 This is not appropriate.

 I've set you to NOMAIL and moderated, and when you get back in the
 office you can come talk to us about the problems your auto-responder
 has caused -- please send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If we can
 be convinced that this problem will not recur, we will allow you to
 be unmoderated and to start receiving mail again from the list.

 And yes, I did mean for a copy of this response to be posted to the
 list as well.

 
 Thanks,
 Nick Bogaty
 
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[Mailman-Users] unpack list of wrong size - debugging a single list

2007-08-16 Thread chris burgess
We run 159 lists for an organisation on Mailman 2.1.5 (Debian Stable).
All other lists appear to be behaving fine, but one list seems to be
having issues. This list (and others) have run fine for several years,
and I don't think

I have done as much debugging as I know how, but I can't get this one
list to behave. I've checked for oversize files, the permissions of
the config directory entries, and even restored the list config.pck
from backups to a version that was working before it stopped. But it
seems the problem isn't any of these, as it persists in gobbling any
incoming mail on that list and putting it in the shunt file.

I'd appreciate any suggestions in how to usefully debug this list from
here - it's knocked out one of our organisation's more active
discussion systems.

Here's an example of what I see in the mailman error log for any
message to this list:

---

Aug 17 15:39:16 2007 (29254) Uncaught runner exception: unpack list of
wrong size
Aug 17 15:39:16 2007 (29254) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153,
in _dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 91, in process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 132, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 306, in
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 273, in process
url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 373, in
save_attachment
fnext = os.path.splitext(msg.get_filename(''))[1]
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/email/Message.py, line 725, in get_filename
filename = self.get_param('filename', missing, 'content-disposition')
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/email/Message.py, line 608, in get_param
for k, v in self._get_params_preserve(failobj, header):
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/email/Message.py, line 555, in _get_params_preserve
params = Utils.decode_params(params)
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/email/Utils.py, line 337, in decode_params
charset, language, value = decode_rfc2231(EMPTYSTRING.join(value))
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/email/Utils.py, line 284, in decode_rfc2231
charset, language, s = parts
ValueError: unpack list of wrong size

---

This is the resulting pickle file in qfiles/shunt for the same message:

---

[- start pickle file -]
- start object 1 -
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 17 15:39:14 2007
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1])
by domain.com with smtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian))
id 1ILsfb-0007gx-Gn
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:39:14 +1200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1
X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on domain.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false
Subject: [CC] test message
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Campaign Committee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Id: Campaign Committee cc.domain.com
List-Unsubscribe: http://domain.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cc,
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Archive: http://domain.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/cc
List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Subscribe: http://domain.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cc,
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi, test here


- start object 2 -
{   '_parsemsg': False,
'lang': 'en',
'listname': 'cc',
'original_sender': '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'origsubj': 'test message',
'pipeline': [   'ToDigest',
'ToArchive',
'ToUsenet',
'AfterDelivery',
'Acknowledge',
'ToOutgoing'],
'received_time': 1187321954.8111341,
'recips': [   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ],
'tolist': 1,
'version': 3,
'whichq': '/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/in'}
[- end pickle file -]
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Out of the Office Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 42, Issue 27

2007-08-16 Thread Brad Knowles
On 8/16/07, Dawn Kolb wrote:

  Am I missing something?  What problems did his auto-responder cause?

Everyone on the list got a copy.  All auto-responders should be set 
up so that they do not respond to any list traffic.

He's a digest user, so if he were to see another digest, he'd 
generate another auto-response to the whole list.  If he weren't a 
digest user, he'd be generating an auto-response for every single 
post to the list -- including all of his own auto-responses.  Imagine 
if two such people were on the list, so that they both replied to all 
posts on the list, including the auto-responses from the other guy.

That's one of the quickest possible ways to kill a mailing list, and 
to bury all the mailing list recipients with hundreds of thousands or 
millions of copies of the same damn stupid auto-response.

I just
  want to know in case I forget to disable any lists that I am on.  Or is it
  something specific to him because he is a co-moderator of this list?

He's not the co-moderator, I am.

And I kill subscriptions from people with bad auto-responders, with 
extreme prejudice.

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