Re: [Mailman-Users] Can this be done using Mailman?

[Brad Knowles]

On 8/17/07, DAve wrote:

>  Doesn't look like that answer is coming, I must be treading new ground.
>  Is anyone interested in the answer if I setup a test install and try it?

Heck, even if no one else is interested in seeing how this test goes, 
then you can certainly sign me up.  I've always wondered how the 
"topics" stuff worked, and I've never had the chance to do much work 
with them

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing to my list

[Brad Knowles]

On 8/17/07, Julie Zbeetnoff wrote:

>  I did not receive confirmation to join my own list but rather I received a
>  confirmation to join this mailman list which I realize powers my list
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

They may use Mailman to run their mailing lists, but they have 
complete control over their systems and if you have any questions as 
to what is going on, you need to talk to them -- we don't run your 
mailing lists, until you told us about this site we had no idea they 
were using our software, and we do not have any influence with them.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footers and Outlook: Looking for patch updated to 2.1.9

[Brad Knowles]

On 8/17/07, Steven Stern wrote:

>  It appears there have been significant changes between 2.1.5 and 2.1.9.
>  Has anyone updated this for 2.1.9?

Talk to the developer of this patch.  I don't think you're going to 
see this incorporated into the official Mailman source code, but 
maybe they're interested in continuing to try to bring this forward.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] apache permissions issue

[Brad Knowles]

On 8/17/07, Terry wrote:

>>  The lists appear to be working fine.  However, I cannot perform any
>>  administrative functions via the web interface.  It does not return
>>  any errors when I submit and I can't see any errors in the apache
>>  error log for that vhost.   I tried adding the apache user to the
>>  mailman group with no luck.  Any other ideas?

There's a variety of reasons why this kind of thing might happen.  We 
document the ones we know about in the FAQ Wizard, such as FAQs 4.45, 
4.65, 4.69, 4.71, and others.  You should definitely take a closer 
look at all the various related entries in the FAQ Wizard.

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[Mailman-Users] Subscribing to my list

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Julie Zbeetnoff writes:

 > After not getting any response and not being able to send out to my list for
 > over 24 hours. I decided to test the subscription option.
 > 
 > I did not receive confirmation to join my own list but rather I received a
 > confirmation to join this mailman list which I realize powers my list
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >
 > Which brings me to my technical question. What the heck is going on?

We don't know; we supply software which is configured and administered
by your service provider.  It seems that your list is misconfigured,
but that will have to be addressed by you as list owner or the site
administrator.  In difficult cases we can probably help with diagnosis
and recommend configuration changes, but we need certain information
from you and the service provider.

 > Why is my list not working and why am I here and not at Googalistic after
 > subscribing?

Please tell us the exact set of steps you followed to arrive at the
current state of being subscribed to the Mailman Users list.  FYI, I
did the following:

1.  Google for "googalistic site:horizenplus.com".
2.  Click on the link to 
"http://horizenplus.com/mailman/listinfo/googalistic_horizenplus.com";.

The resulting page seems to be correct in a brief review; it's the
standard Mailman 2.1.9 subscription template, and all the URLs related
to subscriber services link to something about
googalistic_horizenplus.com.

Such an URL indicates that your provider is not using Mailman as
distributed by the Mailman project (if it were, only the list name
"googalistic" would be in the URL), but has applied some patches.  It
seems likely that these patches are related to your problem, but
you'll need to ask your provider about it.  We don't know what they are.

Are you accessing Mailman via cPanel or Plesk?  If so, the FAQ may be
of help:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.032.htp

 > Since it is a public list your prompt attention would be appreciated.

Since you're openly running a business which involves spamming 400
Google Groups for each post to your mailing list, be warned: your
provider is likely to terminate your account for abuse on *any*
complaint, and Google is likely to make one.  Many of the posts look a
lot like MLM, too, which won't make them any happier.
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[Mailman-Users] moderation bit

[Guilherme Funchal]

Hi!

How to turn-off moderation bit from command line for one user ?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-discard notification

[Daniel Ojo]

Thanks Dragon,

Turning off the moderation bit solved it all.

Daniel.
 
Dragon wrote:
> Daniel Ojo sent the message below at 15:27 8/16/2007:
>   
>> Help,
>>
>> I am trying to send a message to a list I am an owner of and I received this
>> message.
>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject:Auto-discard notification
>> Date:   Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:45:40 -0400
>> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> The attached message has been automatically discarded.
>>
>>
>> Anyone have an idea what the issue is?
>>
>> Thanks, Daniel.
>>
>> 
>  End original message. -
>
> The owner and/or moderator are not automatically members of a list, 
> in order to post to a members only list, you must be subscribed to it 
> and have your moderation bit turned off.
>
> If you are not a member and you have the non-member post action set 
> to discard, the post you attempt to send will be discarded.
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[Mailman-Users] Subscribing to my list

[Julie Zbeetnoff]

After not getting any response and not being able to send out to my list for
over 24 hours. I decided to test the subscription option.

I did not receive confirmation to join my own list but rather I received a
confirmation to join this mailman list which I realize powers my list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Which brings me to my technical question. What the heck is going on?

Why is my list not working and why am I here and not at Googalistic after
subscribing?

Since it is a public list your prompt attention would be appreciated.

Julie Zbeetnoff

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[Mailman-Users] Mass defection?

[Julio A. Cartaya]

A customer of mine has a broadcast (i.e. one-way), low-traffic list with
close to 3000 members. The list contains a mix of business and personal
addresses.  As usual, the list of member addresses can be seen only by
administrators (private_roster).

The date of the last message broadcasted to members is July 17(this
year).  On Aug 7 we received 2700 messages stating "[EMAIL PROTECTED]
has cancelled his subscription to mylist" (where [EMAIL PROTECTED]
changes - of course - for each cancellation message).

Other relevant data

   * This list has been stable, hovering around 3000 members for 3 years
   * It is unlikely all 2700 decided to drop from the list at the same time
   * The host logs show no sign of intrusion
   * I am inclined to dismiss vandalism, since there are 300 members
 whose suscription was not affected
   * There was no obvious pattern on the email addresses that were dropped

Note this is happening in *Spain*, where the entire country closes
during July and August and flocks to the Mediterranean, so chances are
that many mailboxes are full and rejecting incoming messages. The July
17th message could have caused an avalanche of bounced messages, and
automated bounce processing may have dropped all of those addresses a
few days later (bounce_score_threshold is 4.0,
bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings is 3).

In the end, my questions are

  1. *Is bounce processing a plausible cause (all 2700 addresses at the
 same time)?*
  2. *I found no way to distinguish user-driven dropout messages, from
 dropout messages caused by bounce processing; is there any?
 *
  3. *Is there a way to avoid this from happening again next year?
 (other than setting bounce_processing to 'no')*

Clearly this is not the end of the World (we had backups, and members
have been invited to re-join the list), but it is very unsettling for
my customer.

Thanks

Julio
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Re: [Mailman-Users] apache permissions issue

[Terry]

Any ideas on this one?

On 8/12/07, Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The lists appear to be working fine.  However, I cannot perform any
> administrative functions via the web interface.  It does not return
> any errors when I submit and I can't see any errors in the apache
> error log for that vhost.   I tried adding the apache user to the
> mailman group with no luck.  Any other ideas?
>
> Thanks!
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[Mailman-Users] Footers and Outlook: Looking for patch updated to 2.1.9

[Steven Stern]

I need to have Outlook compatible footers (i.e., inline) and found a
patch for 2.1.5 here:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2005-February/017850.html

It appears there have been significant changes between 2.1.5 and 2.1.9.
Has anyone updated this for 2.1.9?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can this be done using Mailman?

[DAve]

Brad Knowles wrote:
> On 8/8/07, DAve wrote:
> 
>>  So in the idea of an announcement only list, we should be able to have
>>  the list owner post a message to multiple topics, correct? I did not see
>>  where cross posting a message to multiple topics within a single list
>>  was possible. Do you know if it is?
> 
> I would think so, yes.  But you should probably wait for an answer from 
> someone who knows better how that part of the code actually works, like 
> maybe Mark Sapiro or Tokio.
> 

Doesn't look like that answer is coming, I must be treading new ground. 
Is anyone interested in the answer if I setup a test install and try it?

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