Re: [Mailman-Users] a few questions about the NNTP gateway

2007-08-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
(Disclaimer: I'm not a Debian maintainer or user)

Brad Knowles wrote:
 On 8/25/07, Manlio Perillo wrote:
 
  Do the debian maintainer of Mailman frequent this mailing list?
 
 Not so far as I know.
 
 Improved contact between our project and the other projects which 
 take our code and create binary packages is one thing that we would 
 like to work on, but of course the two biggest problems are:
 
   1.  Finding out which projects are actually doing what with
   our code

AFAICS, The Debian patches to Mailman are here:

http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-mailman/trunk/debian/patches/

 If you know who the maintainer of the Debian packages is, and you can 
 light a fire under them to get them to come participate on this list, 
 we'd appreciate that.

For anyone interested, the maintainer contact addresses and quite a
bit of other info is available on the package info pages:

http://packages.debian.org/stable/mail/mailman
http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mailman.html

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Re: [Mailman-Users] a few questions about the NNTP gateway

2007-08-26 Thread Manlio Perillo
Brad Knowles ha scritto:
 On 8/25/07, Manlio Perillo wrote:
 
  Do the debian maintainer of Mailman frequent this mailing list?
 
 Not so far as I know.
 
 Improved contact between our project and the other projects which take 
 our code and create binary packages is one thing that we would like to 
 work on, but of course the two biggest problems are:
 

  [...]

That's strange.
One of the Debian policicy is the strict contact between the package 
maintainer and the upstream software authors.

The Debian maintainer(s) of Mailman can be easily found at:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mailman.html



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Re: [Mailman-Users] a few questions about the NNTP gateway

2007-08-26 Thread Brad Knowles
On 8/26/07, Manlio Perillo wrote:

  That's strange.
  One of the Debian policicy is the strict contact between the package
  maintainer and the upstream software authors.

See my previous message on this thread.

  The Debian maintainer(s) of Mailman can be easily found at:
  http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mailman.html

And they should already know how to contact us, and where all of our 
respective resources are.  If they're going to be making 
modifications to our code, the only scalable option is for them to 
use our mechanisms to send their changes to us, and then it's up to 
us as to whether or not those are accepted and incorporated into the 
mainstream codebase.

There simply are no other scalable options.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] a few questions about the NNTP gateway

2007-08-26 Thread Brad Knowles
On 8/26/07, Todd Zullinger wrote:

  AFAICS, The Debian patches to Mailman are here:

  http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-mailman/trunk/debian/patches/

And our development page on SourceForge is at 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman, although internally all 
the new work is being maintained through Bazar on Launchpad (see 
http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/2007/06/22/Bye+bye+Subversion%2C+Hello+Bazaar).
 
The Debian developers are welcome to send their patches to us through 
one of these two mechanisms.

  For anyone interested, the maintainer contact addresses and quite a
  bit of other info is available on the package info pages:

  http://packages.debian.org/stable/mail/mailman
  http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mailman.html

And all of our contact information is at http://www.list.org/, and 
the related pages.


There's no way we can possibly track down every single developer on 
every single platform that is creating localized patches for Mailman 
on their platform.  The only way this process can possibly work is if 
they use our mechanisms to send their patches to us.

There are no other scalable options.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] a few questions about the NNTP gateway

2007-08-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
Brad Knowles wrote:
 There's no way we can possibly track down every single developer on
 every single platform that is creating localized patches for Mailman
 on their platform.  The only way this process can possibly work is
 if they use our mechanisms to send their patches to us.

FWIW, I was not suggesting that the Mailman developer's track down the
Debian maintainers (or any other packagers).  I only provided the
links to the Debian info in case someone on this list wanted to
contact them and ask about the patches they have.

I don't follow the developer list so I don't know if any of the Debian
maintainers are on it or if they've submitted any non-debian-specific
patches to the Mailman developers.

If they haven't, then I think they're being quite negligent -- as,
apparently, does the Debian policy guidelines.

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[Mailman-Users] Getting all names and addresses from a list

2007-08-26 Thread Jean Stora
Hello,

I use mailman 2.1.9 cp2.

Hypothetical data:
site: www.mysite.com
List name: news

I am using the web interface only to modify the list, that means I am not at 
the server.
I need to export the entire list of names and email addresses.
I have had a hard time but finally got this imput to give me the email 
addresses:
http://mail.mysite.com/mailman/roster/news_mysite.com

I have 2 problems:

1- I am able to only get a partial list because somehow it's hiding some 
private members.
2- I need the names as well.

Can you help solving the problem

I need the entire list to display including names and email addresses.

I had a look at the archives and info like: 
To export the list of users subscribed to the list:
 ~mailman/bin/get_members listname 

But I can't figure out how to use that command... do I insert it in my url 
request in the browser?

Help

Thanks

Jean
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