[Mailman-Users] : Problem Running mailman

[QA Engg]

Hi,



   2.1 Set up your system
   1.

  Add the group and User

 *groupadd mailman :-* groupadd: group mailman exists

*useradd -c''GNU Mailman'' -s /no/shell -d /no/home -g mailman mailman :- *

   no error but shows details about the command Useradd

   2. Create the istallation Directory




   2.2 Create the Installatio Directory
   1.

  You cannot install Mailman on a filesystem that is mounted with
  the nosuid option not gettting the meaning of set to group
  2.

   cd $prefix

  3.

  chgrp mailman .

  4.

  chmod a+rx,g+ws .

   -- Sucessfully run


3 Build and install mailman

3.1 Run Configure

*cd mailman-*

*./configure*

Shows errors 1) checking permissions on /usr/local/mailman... configure:
error:

2) * Installation directory /usr/local/mailman is not configured
properly!

3) * Directory must be owned by group mailman: /usr/local/mailman

*sudo make install*

 4 Check Your Installlatio

4.1

   1.

   *bin/check_perms -f * bash: bin/check_perms: @PYTHON@: bad
   interpreter: No such file or directory
   2.

   *cd mailman/archives *

 No such directory
 3.

   *chown Apache 2 private*

 chown: `Apache': invalid user
 4.

   *chmod o-x private*

   chmod: cannot access `private': No such file or directory



 5 Set up your web server

ScriptAlias /mailman/   $prefix/cgi-bin/

 OR

Exec/mailman/*  $prefix/cgi-bin/*







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From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Oct 20, 2007 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users]  : Problem Running mailman
To: QA Engg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mailman-Users@python.org

QA Engg wrote:

>>> And trying to run mailman but show the problem with
>/usr/local/mailman directory  i.s Permission problem

Have you tried running Mailman's bin/check_perms
.


>>> when I tired to cd /usr/local/mailman directory  it is showing error
that
>Directory does not exist


Did you specify some other 'prefix' option to configure?

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[Mailman-Users] Fwd: : Problem Running mailman

[QA Engg]

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From: QA Engg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Oct 20, 2007 2:57 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] : Problem Running mailman
To: Mailman-Users@python.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,



   2.1 Set up your system
   1.

  Add the group and User

 *groupadd mailman :-* groupadd: group mailman exists

*useradd -c''GNU Mailman'' -s /no/shell -d /no/home -g mailman mailman :- *

   no error but shows details about the command Useradd

   2. Create the istallation Directory




   2.2 Create the Installatio Directory
   1.

  You cannot install Mailman on a filesystem that is mounted with
  the nosuid option not gettting the meaning of set to group
  2.

   cd $prefix

  3.

  chgrp mailman .

  4.

  chmod a+rx,g+ws .

   -- Sucessfully run


3 Build and install mailman

3.1 Run Configure

*cd mailman-*

*./configure*

Shows errors 1) checking permissions on /usr/local/mailman... configure:
error:

2) * Installation directory /usr/local/mailman is not configured
properly!

3) * Directory must be owned by group mailman: /usr/local/mailman

*sudo make install*

 4 Check Your Installlatio

4.1

   1.

   *bin/check_perms -f * bash: bin/check_perms: @PYTHON@: bad
   interpreter: No such file or directory
   2.

   *cd mailman/archives *

 No such directory
 3.

   *chown Apache 2 private*

 chown: `Apache': invalid user
 4.

   *chmod o-x private*

   chmod: cannot access `private': No such file or directory



 5 Set up your web server

ScriptAlias /mailman/   $prefix/cgi-bin/

 OR

Exec/mailman/*  $prefix/cgi-bin/*







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From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Oct 20, 2007 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users]  : Problem Running mailman
To: QA Engg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mailman-Users@python.org

QA Engg wrote:

>>> And trying to run mailman but show the problem with
>/usr/local/mailman directory  i.s Permission problem

Have you tried running Mailman's bin/check_perms
.


>>> when I tired to cd /usr/local/mailman directory  it is showing error
that
>Directory does not exist


Did you specify some other 'prefix' option to configure?

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[Mailman-Users] is it possible to set up mailman on a host without a MTA?

[Tomasz Chmielewski]

Is it possible to set up mailman on a host without a MTA?

I imagine mailman could easily send emails through an external MTA, and 
receive email using externam pop3 or imap account - however, I didn't 
find many hints about such setup in the fine documentation.

Any clues?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] is it possible to set up mailman on a host without a MTA?

[Dennis Putnam]

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At 06:36 AM 10/20/2007, you wrote:
>Is it possible to set up mailman on a host without a MTA?
>
>I imagine mailman could easily send emails through an external MTA, and
>receive email using externam pop3 or imap account - however, I didn't
>find many hints about such setup in the fine documentation.
>
>Any clues?

I'm not exactly sure what you are asking for but I have a Mandrake 
system on my DSL connected line without a static IP address. I have a 
couple of mailing lists running and use 'fetchmail'. I have mail 
boxes set up with my ISP and run 'fetchmail'  via 'cron' to get the 
incoming messages. My SMTP sever is configured to use my ISPs mail 
server for the outgoing messages.

If this is the kind of thing you are looking for let me know and we 
can discuss it further.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] : Problem Running mailman

[Mark Sapiro]

QA Engg wrote:
>
>   2.2 Create the Installatio Directory
>   1.
>
>  You cannot install Mailman on a filesystem that is mounted with
>  the nosuid option not gettting the meaning of set to group
>  2.
>
>   cd $prefix
>
>  3.
>
>  chgrp mailman .
>
>  4.
>
>  chmod a+rx,g+ws .
>
>   -- Sucessfully run


Was the above 'cd $prefix' actually 'cd /usr/local/mailman'? Because
the next step is telling you  that /usr/local/mailman is not group
mailman and/or not g+ws.


>3 Build and install mailman
>
>3.1 Run Configure
>
>*cd mailman-*
>
>*./configure*


This isn't the problem here, but you may wish to specify some options
to configure such as --with-cgi-gid=, --with-mail-gid=,
--with-mailhost= and --with-urlhost=


>Shows errors 1) checking permissions on /usr/local/mailman... configure:
>error:
>
>2) * Installation directory /usr/local/mailman is not configured
>properly!
>
>3) * Directory must be owned by group mailman: /usr/local/mailman


Indicating that 'chgrp mailman .' above was not run in the
/usr/local/mailman directory.

You must fix the above and rerun configure. Then you can run 'make
install'


>*sudo make install*
>
> 4 Check Your Installlatio
>
>4.1
>
>   1.
>
>   *bin/check_perms -f * bash: bin/check_perms: @PYTHON@: bad
>   interpreter: No such file or directory
>   2.



You have to run /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms which won't exist
until you get the proper ownership and permissions on
/usr/local/mailman and successfully run configure and make install.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] is it possible to set up mailman on a host without a MTA?

[Dennis Carr]

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:36:18 +0200
Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is it possible to set up mailman on a host without a MTA?
> 
> I imagine mailman could easily send emails through an external MTA,
> and receive email using externam pop3 or imap account - however, I
> didn't find many hints about such setup in the fine documentation.

Not as near as I can tell (I could be wrong), but you can easily set up,
say, Postfix to just route everything through your ISP and not receive
mail.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] is it possible to set up mailman on a hostwithout a MTA?

[Mark Sapiro]

Dennis Carr wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:36:18 +0200
>Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to set up mailman on a host without a MTA?
>> 
>> I imagine mailman could easily send emails through an external MTA,
>> and receive email using externam pop3 or imap account - however, I
>> didn't find many hints about such setup in the fine documentation.
>
>Not as near as I can tell (I could be wrong), but you can easily set up,
>say, Postfix to just route everything through your ISP and not receive
>mail.


Actually, it is possible to run Mailman without a local MTA. Outgoing
mail is easy.  Just set SMTPHOST and, if necessary, SMTPPORT in
mm_cfg.py to the appropriate values for the server you want to use. If
the server requires authentication and possibly TLS, see

for a patch.

Incoming mail is harder, but it can be done using something like
fetchmail to retrieve mail from a remote server. It can then be
delivered to Mailman via someththing like procmail or by using
Mailman's Maildir delivery.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] is it possible to set up mailman on a host without a MTA?

[Tomasz Chmielewski]

Dennis Putnam schrieb:
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> At 06:36 AM 10/20/2007, you wrote:
>> Is it possible to set up mailman on a host without a MTA?
>>
>> I imagine mailman could easily send emails through an external MTA, and
>> receive email using externam pop3 or imap account - however, I didn't
>> find many hints about such setup in the fine documentation.
>>
>> Any clues?
> 
> I'm not exactly sure what you are asking for but I have a Mandrake 
> system on my DSL connected line without a static IP address. I have a 
> couple of mailing lists running and use 'fetchmail'. I have mail 
> boxes set up with my ISP and run 'fetchmail'  via 'cron' to get the 
> incoming messages. My SMTP sever is configured to use my ISPs mail 
> server for the outgoing messages.
> 
> If this is the kind of thing you are looking for let me know and we 
> can discuss it further.

All right, I forgot about fetchmail.

Was something non-standard needed to make mailman work with fetchmail/cron?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] is it possible to set up mailman on a host without a MTA?

[Dennis Putnam]

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At 02:32 PM 10/20/2007, you wrote:


>All right, I forgot about fetchmail.
>
>Was something non-standard needed to make mailman work with fetchmail/cron?
>
>
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>http://wpkg.org

No. It was a little tricky to set things up so my ISP would accept 
mail from my SMTP server. The main problem was getting it configured 
so my ISP could recognize it as a legitimate customer sending mail. 
The 'fetchmail' part was cake.



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