[Mailman-Users] Strange problem with mailman
Hi, There is a weird problem with mailman. I have a few lists that all members are moderated. When an email arrives into each list, it is held for approval. Suddenly, no messages are sent for the list administrators to approve or reject the incoming emails. Also, there are no postings in the Tend to pending moderator requests. The problem is solved when i type /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop and then /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start Then, all requests are properly sent to the administrators. For some reason, mailman stops delivering the requests for the list administrators. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Alexandros -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Strange problem with mailman
Alexandros G. Fragkiadakis wrote: Suddenly, no messages are sent for the list administrators to approve or reject the incoming emails. Also, there are no postings in the Tend to pending moderator requests. The problem is solved when i type /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop and then /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start Then, all requests are properly sent to the administrators. For some reason, mailman stops delivering the requests for the list administrators. One or more of your qrunners is dying for some reason. Any of IncomingRunner, VirginRunner or OutgoingRunner could cause the lack of notices to the admin, but only no IncomingRunner would cause the posts to not be in the admindb interface. You have to check Mailman's 'qrunner' and 'error' logs for clues as to why the runner(s) are dying. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Looking to migrate off of Majordomo
Okay, that probably made someone choke. We're currently running majordomo (and have been for years) and we're looking to migrate off of majordomo, however, we need a solution which allows for non web based list management. (i.e. via email messages to the server) I'm pretty sure mailman will do this, however I can't find any documentation about how to manage this way. 1. Is it possible to run mailman without using a web based interface? 2. Is there documentation somewhere? Scott Mohnkern -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Moderator password not working?
Hello, I created a new list using the newlist command. For some reason I had to run fix_url after creating the list. Right now it seems that the moderator password does not work for this list (I know im using the right one). Any ideas why this might happen? We are using Mailman version 2.1.1. Is there some flag you need to set for moderators to login? Thanks, Dan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator password not working?
Dan Mashal wrote: I created a new list using the newlist command. For some reason I had to run fix_url after creating the list. In Mailman 2.1.1 (why so old?) if you just specify list_name to bin/newlist, the list will be created in the DEFAULT_URL_HOST/DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST domains. if you want these to be different you have to create [EMAIL PROTECTED], specifying the web domain, not the email domain as url_host. Right now it seems that the moderator password does not work for this list (I know im using the right one). Do you mean the moderator password or the list admin password? Any ideas why this might happen? We are using Mailman version 2.1.1. Is there some flag you need to set for moderators to login? No, but the moderator password can't log in to the admin interface, only to the admindb interface. Only the list admin or site admin password can be used to log in to the admin interface. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator password not working?
Hi Mark, Why so old? The system has been around since the dawn of time and hasn't been upgraded since. It's running on an old sparc with Solaris. We are going to be upgrading to the new version soon hopefully. As you know though, it's not an easy task. :) We seemed to just figure out the problem. We got the super duper mailman password confused with a list administrator password. That is, we are providing our users the list administrator/moderator passwords and we are using the super duper password to login as sysadmins. Thanks for your reply. Thanks, Dan -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:39 AM To: Dan Mashal; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator password not working? Dan Mashal wrote: I created a new list using the newlist command. For some reason I had to run fix_url after creating the list. In Mailman 2.1.1 (why so old?) if you just specify list_name to bin/newlist, the list will be created in the DEFAULT_URL_HOST/DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST domains. if you want these to be different you have to create [EMAIL PROTECTED], specifying the web domain, not the email domain as url_host. Right now it seems that the moderator password does not work for this list (I know im using the right one). Do you mean the moderator password or the list admin password? Any ideas why this might happen? We are using Mailman version 2.1.1. Is there some flag you need to set for moderators to login? No, but the moderator password can't log in to the admin interface, only to the admindb interface. Only the list admin or site admin password can be used to log in to the admin interface. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking to migrate off of Majordomo
Scott Mohnkern wrote: Okay, that probably made someone choke. We're currently running majordomo (and have been for years) and we're looking to migrate off of majordomo, however, we need a solution which allows for non web based list management. (i.e. via email messages to the server) Mailman can't be administered effectively by email. It can be administered without a web server by a combination of email and command line tools, but not by email alone. List owners/moderators can approve or discard held posts and held (un)subscribe requests by email, but that's about it. Other list admin tasks require a web interface or shell access with write permission to the Mailman installation. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Disappearing message
Have a new and different one. One of my users that has two lists, let's call them list1 and list2. If he sends a message to list1 and cc's list2, list1 never receives the message. If he sends the same message only to list1, it goes through fine. According to my exim logs, it is delivering both messages to list1: ex. 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=myhost P=esmtp S=288168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=[List1] Agenda Change Advisory Board - Oct 23,2007 3:00pm 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J = list1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J = list2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J Completed 2007-10-22 08:52:31 1Ijwli-0003WN-LD = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=myhost P=esmtp S=288873 [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=FW: [List2] [List1] Agenda Change Advisory Board -Oct 23, 2007 3:00pm 2007-10-22 08:52:31 1Ijwli-0003WN-LD = list1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport 2007-10-22 08:52:31 1Ijwli-0003WN-LD Completed The first message is successfully posted to list2, the second message is successfully posted to list1. The first message has absolutely no MM longs relative to list1. Nothing in the vette, smtp, post, error, bounce, etc. Nothing at all related to message one for List1. This is a weekly message and this has happened for the last 4+ weeks. Before that it appears to have worked fine. I haven't made any system changes in that time. What could cause something like this. Is is possible a list setting could do this? I checked the sender filters on both lists but saw nothing that looked wrong. Any assistance would be appreciated. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Strange problem with mailman
Mark Sapiro writes: Alexandros G. Fragkiadakis wrote: He's Greek. I'll bet he has users putting raw ISO-8859-7 in the headers. Look for illegal character isn't ascii errors in the logs (something like that, I forget exactly how it's spelled). -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)
On Oct 22, 2007, at 10:47, Mark Sapiro wrote: [Re: Looking to migrate off of Majordomo] List owners/moderators can approve or discard held posts and held (un)subscribe requests by email, but that's about it. Other list admin tasks require a web interface or shell access with write permission to the Mailman installation. I am hesitant to ask this as I should wait until one day when I can investigate it myself in more depth, but when the moderator approves or rejects, how can the moderator (using the web interface to send) receive a copy of the email going to the member? A forward of the moderated message does not include the moderator's decision. And is there an archive of such decisions (and invitations etc) available to the moderator? I feel I must have overlooked the obvious. Mikael -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator archive
On Oct 22, 2007, at 18:02, Mikael Hansen wrote: I feel I must have overlooked the obvious. Such as adding a proper subject field ;-) Mikael -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp