Re: [Mailman-Users] sharing administrator passwords
On 5/28/08 5:22 AM, Charles Marcus at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 5/27/2008, Brad Knowles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> The site admin password can be used to administer any list on the >> system. If you turn on the appropriate option in the mm_cfg.py file, >> you can even set it up so that you log into one list with the site >> admin password and you don't even have to provide a password to log >> into any of the other lists -- the cookie set by the first password >> login will be recognized by all the other lists. > > Wow, that would come in useful for me... what option is that? ALLOWS_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES. Set it to Yes in mm_cfg.py. >From my empirical testing, the site admin password must be different than the list admin password (as a sole administrator for my system, I had them the same). If they're the same, it appears Mailman determines it to be the list password and never gets to the site password test and there never sets the site admin cookie. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] sharing administrator passwords
On 5/27/2008, Brad Knowles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The site admin password can be used to administer any list on the system. If you turn on the appropriate option in the mm_cfg.py file, you can even set it up so that you log into one list with the site admin password and you don't even have to provide a password to log into any of the other lists -- the cookie set by the first password login will be recognized by all the other lists. Wow, that would come in useful for me... what option is that? -- Best regards, Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Relative to Relaying deny
Hi everybody I have a big problem with a list, I have installed in my server as MTA Postfix, an antivirus Vexira and mailman to have the posibility to get a service's list. I have 4 lists created, 3 of them contain only email's directions with my domain i mean is only for internal use, that's works perfect. But theres one that contain external domains and when i try to send a message to all the members (hotmail's, yahoo's, etc), the message never is delivered, checking the logs i found that error in the smtp-failure's log in mailman: May 27 18:29:15 2008 (7555) delivery to failed with code 558: Relaying denied: domain not valid. I could send emails from my MTA to this domains, so i think that the configuration of my postfix is correct but... when mailman try to send messages dosen't work. I hope that somebody could help me. Thanks in advance === Julio César Serna Luna Yahoo! Deportes Beta ¡No te pierdas lo último sobre el torneo clausura 2008! Entérate aquí http://deportes.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Subscription errors
I have recently upgraded my Mailman installation to 2.1.10 and the online
subscription system that I set up stopped working completely (users fill out
a form, which generates an email, which subscribes them to the list).
This seems to be related to the known bug in 2.1.10 and I have tried
installing the patch that has been discussed in many places - but I am still
getting the same problem. In log/error I am seeing the following:
May 28 23:36:05 2008 (31672) Uncaught runner exception: 'NoneType' object
has no attribute 'lower'
May 28 23:36:05 2008 (31672) Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 120, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 191, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 241, in
_dispose
res.do_command('join')
File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 139, in
do_command
return handler.process(self, args)
File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Commands/cmd_subscribe.py", line 74, in
process
if digest is None and password.lower() in ('digest', 'nodigest'):
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower'
May 28 23:36:05 2008 (31672) SHUNTING:
1212014164.9099751+f202edd394843183ffbb4f3cde5b3f52fca1038a
Perhaps I am not installing the patch correctly? I'm using the FreeBSD port
of Mailman, and haven't had to patch anything before!
Any help would be much appreciated. This has had me scratching my head for
days.
Duncan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] sharing administrator passwords
Charles Marcus wrote: Wow, that would come in useful for me... what option is that? From /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py: # Normally when a site administrator authenticates to a web page with the site # password, they get a cookie which authorizes them as the list admin. It # makes me nervous to hand out site auth cookies because if this cookie is # cracked or intercepted, the intruder will have access to every list on the # site. OTOH, it's dang handy to not have to re-authenticate to every list on # the site. Set this value to Yes to allow site admin cookies. ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES = No -- Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Member of the Python.org Postmaster Team & Co-Moderator of the mailman-users and mailman-developers mailing lists -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] slightly OT: on not becoming a spam source
One or more AOL subscribers is reporting posts to one of our mailing
lists as spam. Every time there's a post to this list, both we and our
upstream provider get a feedback report from AOL. This report provides
the message-ID for the offending email, but not the recipient's address.
AOL claims I should be able to find the offended recipient(s) with just
the message-ID, but I do not believe they are correct about that.
grep'ing for the message-ID in maillog returns *all* of the ~250
recipients for each post.
I would like to find which AOL user(s) are complaining and unsubscribe
them.
One method would be to write a script that sends an individual email
containing a unique ID to each subscriber, and see if AOL sends feedback
complaint(s) for those.
Questions:
1. In putting together a script, do I need to include this header:
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
("mylist" and "example.org" are fact-free examples)
2. Is there some better way of isolating a given recipient if all I have
from a spam report is a single message-ID?
This is on OpenBSD 4.2 running postfix 2.4.3 and mailman 2.1.10.
Many thanks!
dn
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Re: [Mailman-Users] slightly OT: on not becoming a spam source
Quoting David Newman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > One or more AOL subscribers is reporting posts to one of our mailing > lists as spam. Every time there's a post to this list, both we and our > upstream provider get a feedback report from AOL. This report provides > the message-ID for the offending email, but not the recipient's address. > > AOL claims I should be able to find the offended recipient(s) with just > the message-ID, but I do not believe they are correct about that. > grep'ing for the message-ID in maillog returns *all* of the ~250 > recipients for each post. Well, how many of those 250 use AOL email addresses? That'll narrow it down. > I would like to find which AOL user(s) are complaining and unsubscribe > them. > > One method would be to write a script that sends an individual email > containing a unique ID to each subscriber, and see if AOL sends feedback > complaint(s) for those. This is probably one way. Another is to enable VERP for your outgoing messages, this allows you to track the message ID to the individual user. dd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] slightly OT: on not becoming a spam source
On 5/28/08 7:09 PM, Dave Dewey wrote: Quoting David Newman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): One or more AOL subscribers is reporting posts to one of our mailing lists as spam. Every time there's a post to this list, both we and our upstream provider get a feedback report from AOL. This report provides the message-ID for the offending email, but not the recipient's address. AOL claims I should be able to find the offended recipient(s) with just the message-ID, but I do not believe they are correct about that. grep'ing for the message-ID in maillog returns *all* of the ~250 recipients for each post. Well, how many of those 250 use AOL email addresses? That'll narrow it down. Only around 15 percent are @aol.com addresses but unfortunately AOL has other domains such as @netscape.com, @bigfoot.com, and possibly others, all of which get handled by the AOL postmaster. I don't have an exhaustive list; while it's mostly likely some user in @aol.com-land, I can't say for sure. This is probably one way. Another is to enable VERP for your outgoing messages, this allows you to track the message ID to the individual user. That sounds very promising, thanks. Trying it now... dn -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] slightly OT: on not becoming a spam source
On 5/28/08 9:26 PM, David Newman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Another is to enable VERP for your outgoing messages, this allows >> you to track the message ID to the individual user. > > That sounds very promising, thanks. Trying it now... I have all my lists VERPed for just that reason. Once I figure out who it is, they get unsubscribed with extreme prejudice (meaning they also get banned from the mail server). But you should be aware that will increase your outgoing mail load. Nothing I do is high enough frequency for that to be an issue but it can be for some people. Most of my lists are announcement lists. In fact, for some of them, the recipients aren't even aware it's a mailing list. I (as a side job) assign soccer referees for local leagues. Rather than sending out announcements to my referees with a long BCC: list, I add them to a private mailman list with VERP so they receive them with them as the To: recipient. That also lets me know who to remove when they decide that the easiest way to let me know that they're no longer interested in being notified of available games is to do a "report as spam". :-( -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
