[Mailman-Users] Input text when admin rejected mail
I want to input my own text, when i reject mail. when i put it into If you reject this post, please explain (optional) box, it's display like message below: Your request to the Gender mailing list Posting of your message titled Hi has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the following reason for rejecting your request: Your mail has been rejected. The gender mailing list is to be used as electronic means to share information and knowledge, and to discuss on gender issues in Cambodia. Any mail on non-related issues will be rejected. Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator at:[EMAIL PROTECTED] But when i rejected message, i want to send message below to sender Your mail has been rejected. The gender mailing list is used as electronic communication mean to share information and knowledge, and to discuss on gender mailing issues on Cambodia. Any mail on non-related topic will be rejected. Please shard me your experience Dara -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Scripting List Creation
--On 8. Juli 2008 12:01:42 -0700 Knabe, Troy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I currently use ldap groups for mail lists, and I am wanting to migrate them to Mailman. I have somewhere around 1000 lists, and want to be able to script list creation. Is there a way to run newlist and take it's input from a file? Not exactly, but there's something similar: after your script has executed newlist, it can configure the list from a file using config_list and populate the list from a file using add_members. We have a Perl script that does that. -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:. .:.:.:.Skype: shagedorn.:.:.:. pgpJP3pD3m7oz.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Using MailMan To Hide Addresses
Thanks for your comments, Brad.
I've contacted a couple of companies on the Hosting Services list, as the
Consultancy list is actually empty. Everything else everybody's told me seems
like MailMan will do the job, although the Python aspect (or my complete lack
of knowledge of it) could be a problem.
Rob.
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To: Atkinson, Robert
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Using MailMan To Hide Addresses
Atkinson, Robert wrote:
I have a unique problem where I need to use MailMan (or another
application)
to hide my users email addresses.
Basically, I need to create a single address that a company ('Global
Supplies') will email me on, e.g. '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
mailto:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' . When the email gets to me, I need to
check and release it. It will then be distributed to all the users on the
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' list, BUT must still appear as if it came from
the
'Global Supplies' email address, and not mine.
I'd like to know if MailMan can do this, if you know of any companies that
use MailMan where I can buy a managed service, or any other
software/services
where I can achieve the same goals.
That sounds like a standard moderated mailing list. Unless you choose the
functions to convert it into an anonymous list, the sender's address will
always appear to be that of the original sender (i.e., the From: header is
not modified), pretty much regardless of what else may be done to the
message.
As a moderator, you would get an e-mail message telling you that there is
something waiting in the moderator queue, you fire up a web browser to go
look at the queue and take action on it, and any approved messages should
then show up on the list.
Of course, in the default configuration the sender is going to get a notice
that their message is being held for moderation, which is good in most
circumstances, but maybe not what you want here.
From the looks of it, I think you want to talk to some Python/Mailman
service providers and get a more direct in-person discussion over what the
software can and cannot do for you, what kinds of fees they charge for their
services, etc
I'd suggest starting with the links in the Mailman Community page at
http://wiki.list.org/display/COM/Home and check out both hosting services
and consulting services.
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[Mailman-Users] issues with mm_cfg.py
This is my mm_cfg.py but it doesn't appear that mailman is utilizing it. I had to change my DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in Defaults.py in order for it to take affect on install, and now I am trying to set the DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER and it is not using this one. Any insights? cat mm_cfg.py # -*- python -*- # Copyright (C) 1998,1999,2000,2001,2002 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License # as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 # of the License, or (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software # Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA. This module contains your site-specific settings. From a brand new distribution it should be copied to mm_cfg.py. If you already have an mm_cfg.py, be careful to add in only the new settings you want. Mailman's installation procedure will never overwrite your mm_cfg.py file. The complete set of distributed defaults, with documentation, are in the file Defaults.py. In mm_cfg.py, override only those you want to change, after the from Defaults import * line (see below). Note that these are just default settings; many can be overridden via the administrator and user interfaces on a per-list or per-user basis. ### # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. from Defaults import * ## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. IMAGE_LOGOS = '/images/' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.district.edu' DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER = ___ %(real_name)s mailing list %(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s http://webserver.mydomain.district.edu/staff/mailing -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Input text when admin rejected mail
Mak Dara wrote: I want to input my own text, when i reject mail. when i put it into If you reject this post, please explain (optional) box, it's display like message below: Your request to the Gender mailing list Posting of your message titled Hi has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the following reason for rejecting your request: Your mail has been rejected. The gender mailing list is to be used as electronic means to share information and knowledge, and to discuss on gender issues in Cambodia. Any mail on non-related issues will be rejected. Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator at:[EMAIL PROTECTED] But when i rejected message, i want to send message below to sender Your mail has been rejected. The gender mailing list is used as electronic communication mean to share information and knowledge, and to discuss on gender mailing issues on Cambodia. Any mail on non-related topic will be rejected. The additional text you see in the notice comes from the template named refuse.txt. See http://wiki.list.org/x/jYA9 for information about making edited templates to apply sitewide, by domain or by list. Keep in mind however that if you remove the bulk of this text from the template and then reject a post without giving a reason, the resultant message to the poster will be very uninformative. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] issues with mm_cfg.py
Knabe, Troy wrote: This is my mm_cfg.py but it doesn't appear that mailman is utilizing it. I had to change my DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in Defaults.py in order for it to take affect on install, and now I am trying to set the DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER and it is not using this one. Any insights? See http://wiki.list.org/x/mIA9. As for DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER, that is the default for lists created after you made the change. It has no effect on exisitng lists. (more below) cat mm_cfg.py snip ### # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. from Defaults import * ## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. IMAGE_LOGOS = '/images/' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.district.edu' DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER = ___ %(real_name)s mailing list %(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s http://webserver.mydomain.district.edu/staff/mailing Also, both DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER are used in Defaults.py to set other things, and those things are imported before you make your changes, so you actually need DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.district.edu' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER = as you have it DEFAULT_DIGEST_FOOTER = DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER Otherwise, the VIRTUAL_HOSTS table will retain the Defaults.py setting for DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, and similarly for DEFAULT_DIGEST_FOOTER. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] List Member Set Back
I run a Cobalt RAQ550 server with about 125 Mailman lists on it. On several occasions, one of the lists has had its membership roster set back to one from the past. It turns out I had a defective UPS, and I would guess that it happened when there was a power glitch and some operation got upset, and the membership list was set back to an old one. I have two questions: First, am I right in my guess of the problem, and second, the list that is put in place has been, in some instances a couple years old. I have a new UPS, so hope this happens less, but if it does, is there any way to make the list that is auto restored more recent? David Andrews -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] List Member Set Back
Thanks as always for your clear and accurate answer. You amaze me with your work in development, and support, your knowledge, your patience etc... Thanks! Dave At 04:13 PM 7/9/2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: David Andrews wrote: I run a Cobalt RAQ550 server with about 125 Mailman lists on it. On several occasions, one of the lists has had its membership roster set back to one from the past. It turns out I had a defective UPS, and I would guess that it happened when there was a power glitch and some operation got upset, and the membership list was set back to an old one. I have two questions: First, am I right in my guess of the problem, and second, the list that is put in place has been, in some instances a couple years old. I have a new UPS, so hope this happens less, but if it does, is there any way to make the list that is auto restored more recent? Look through your Mailman lists/* directories. For any given list, there should be a lists/listname directory with a few files including a config.pck and a config.pck.last file. If there are also config.db and config.db.last files, remove them. These are old files left ofer from a Mailman 2.0.x to 2.1.x migration and their contents are that old. What happens is this. When Mailman instantiates a list, it tries to load the list data from config.pck. If that fails, it falls back to config.pck.last, config.db and config.db.last in that order. So if both config.pck and config.pck.last (the immediately prior generation) get corrupted in a power outage so they can't be loaded, Mailman may fall back to the out of date config.db, so remove those old config.db* files to prevent that. Then if in the future, both config.pck and config.pck.last should become unusable, that list will just not work and you will have to restore config.pck from a (hopefully recent) backup, but at least it won't silently fall back to years old data. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:50 AM -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] issues with mm_cfg.py
As for DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER, that is the default for lists created after you made the change. It has no effect on exisitng lists. (more below) I understand that, but it didn't seem to work that way, I will test it again. So here is my snip of mm_cfg.py, my concern is that my mailhost is mydomain.district.edu, but my DEFAULT_URL_HOST (I believe) is mailmanserver.mydomain.district.edu doesn't this setting set it to mydomain.district.edu? ## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. IMAGE_LOGOS = '/images/' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.district.edu' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER = ___ %(real_name)s mailing list %(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s http://server.mydomain.district.edu/staff/mailing DEFAULT_DIGEST_FOOTER = DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER cat mm_cfg.py snip ### # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. from Defaults import * ## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. IMAGE_LOGOS = '/images/' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.district.edu' DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER = ___ %(real_name)s mailing list %(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s http://webserver.mydomain.district.edu/staff/mailing Also, both DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER are used in Defaults.py to set other things, and those things are imported before you make your changes, so you actually need DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.district.edu' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER = as you have it DEFAULT_DIGEST_FOOTER = DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER Otherwise, the VIRTUAL_HOSTS table will retain the Defaults.py setting for DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, and similarly for DEFAULT_DIGEST_FOOTER. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] slow sending
My messages sent to lists are being placed in the mailq and taking 5-15 minutes to be delivered. I use Sophos's PureMessage for Spam/Anti-virus scanning so part of sendmail config hands the message off to a milter, but then it is being placed in the mailq instead of delivering the message. Is this normal, it seems my messages to this list are delivered faster than to my own. I am using sendmail for my mta. Thanks -Troy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] issues with mm_cfg.py
Knabe, Troy wrote: As for DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER, that is the default for lists created after you made the change. It has no effect on exisitng lists. (more below) I understand that, but it didn't seem to work that way, I will test it again. So here is my snip of mm_cfg.py, my concern is that my mailhost is mydomain.district.edu, but my DEFAULT_URL_HOST (I believe) is mailmanserver.mydomain.district.edu doesn't this setting set it to mydomain.district.edu? snip DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.district.edu' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) No. What that setting says that the email domain for a list in the 'mailmanserver.mydomain.district.edu' web domain is 'mydomain.district.edu'. The default web domain is still DEFAULT_URL_HOST. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] slow sending
Knabe, Troy wrote: My messages sent to lists are being placed in the mailq and taking 5-15 minutes to be delivered. I use Sophos's PureMessage for Spam/Anti-virus scanning so part of sendmail config hands the message off to a milter, but then it is being placed in the mailq instead of delivering the message. Is this normal, it seems my messages to this list are delivered faster than to my own. I am using sendmail for my mta. I assume you're talking about messages to Mailman. If I'm wrong, and you're talking about messages from Mailman, these should not be spam filtered at all. They should have been spam filtered on the way in. In any case, these seem to be sendmail questions, not Mailman questions. There is some sendmail specific information at http://wiki.list.org/x/GoA9, but it mostly has to do with outgoing mail. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install
Brad Knowles wrote: Correct. The Mailman developers feel that forcing all replies to go back to the list causes much more harm than good. For a real-world example: We run several thousand lists here at our university (not all in Mailman) and we had a class list set up with replies go to list (the professor/owner had inadvertantly changed that setting from the default). One night, the professor sent out a message to the class list, giving them some instructions or something. Well one student on the list didn't realize this and thought the prof had sent the message only to her, basically targetting her (I guess she didn't look at the headers). She replied with a pretty personal message back to the prof, and it went to the entire class (180 students). She was so embarrassed and humiliated the next day to know that entire class had read her personal message and were talking about her, that she dropped the class. This is basically why you want people to specifically address the list, if they mean to send to it. Sure it was her fault, but it's wiser to use the strongly recommended defaults than to try to teach a revolving group of 15,000 students an email lesson. - jim - -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] slow sending
Knabe, Troy wrote: My messages sent to lists are being placed in the mailq and taking 5-15 minutes to be delivered. I use Sophos's PureMessage for Spam/Anti-virus scanning so part of sendmail config hands the message off to a milter, but then it is being placed in the mailq instead of delivering the message. Is this normal, it seems my messages to this list are delivered faster than to my own. I am using sendmail for my mta. Sounds to me like you're doing anti-spam/anti-virus filtering after the mailing list. Don't do that. Do all your filtering on inbound, and then set up another instance of the MTA with all filtering turned off, and listening only to a certain designated private high-numbered port on the loopback/127.0.0.1 interface, and then set up Mailman to use this second instance of your MTA for sending all outbound mail. I'm sure this is covered in the FAQ. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription
Sigh...this is my ISP's response to my request. At least they did take it seriously and consider it (the option is Mark's suggestion of a severe limit on numbers of subscribers listowners could add per day/week/whatever). We have decided that we are not going to implement this option on our current Listserv setup. Users must be able to reply to their subscription notifications. This alone prevents abuse and protects everyone involved here. If the person in question has an email address, and wants to be on a mailing list, they should be able to respond to one message; confirming their desire to be involved. Obviously, I disagree. As do all the other mailing list providers that I'm aware of. At least it's the only large change they've made to the software so it's still pretty usable. Thanks for your help, Mark. Cyndi P.S. I still don't understand why they insist on an invite model. Why not just let the listowner add people but have it not take place until the person responds? My issue isn't with requiring confirmation (though I think written confirmation should be good enough) but with making someone who might be very computer illiterate go to a website to sign up. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Cyndi Norwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously, I disagree. As do all the other mailing list providers that I'm aware of. Not me. If I were setting up a Mailman system that allowed un-trusted users to admin lists, then I would remove the bulk-subscription stuff ASAP. Just saying. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:54:59 -0400 From: Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Cyndi Norwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously, I disagree. As do all the other mailing list providers that I'm aware of. Not me. If I were setting up a Mailman system that allowed un-trusted users to admin lists, then I would remove the bulk-subscription stuff ASAP. Just saying. I appreciate your input. I am curious what other server owners/ISP's do. From the talk on this list, it would seem that any restriction on what listowners can do is considered a violation. Yahoogroups allows 10 direct adds per day and makes you click a couple extra links to find the right page. I believe the other large mailing list providers are similar. Assuming you ran a system with users you didn't know well enough to judge, what sorts of options would you consider implementing? If any... Cyndi -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Cyndi Norwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming you ran a system with users you didn't know well enough to judge, what sorts of options would you consider implementing? If any... Excellent question. I would have to think, given the prevalence and persistence of spammers, that any ability to force unconfirmed (i.e. non-opt-in) subscriptions would be a violation of most ISP's TOS. So to me, providing the capabilities to disable mass subscriptions would be a good mmcfg.py option. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Using Mailman at School
I'll be begin by saying I greatly appreciate those who will take the time to provide me with some guidance and assistance. BACKGROUND Our school has access to a Mailman (version 2.1.9.cp2) List Server. We just want to create a Master email list to send announcements out to parents and students. Mailman is provided as a service by our email host so we can ONLY ACCESS Mailman via a web interface. If we create a list with 1000 different parent email addresses can we group them into different lists? The key thing here is if we update one address that change would be reflected in all lists. If so how? EXAMPLE From those 1000 address I tag/mark all the 8th grade parents addresses and call that list Grade08. Then I tag/mark some more addresses as 12th grade parents and call that list Grade12, and so on. We could make a third list called Soccer Team and tag some addresses from both the Grade08 and Grade12 lists. AVAILABLE OPTIONS Having read the FAQs, Archives and prior posts it seems like it has something to do with Umbrella Lists, Aliases or both. Since we can only use the program (Mailman version 2.1.9.cp2) via a web interface we can do this: 1. Create a list that we want 2. Then we can modify that list. The modifications we can do are grouped together as follows: [General Options] Passwords Language options Membership Management... Non-digest options Digest options [Configuration Categories ] Privacy options... Bounce processing Archiving Options Mail-News gateways Auto-responder Content filtering Topics [ Other Administrative Activities ] Tend to pending moderator requests Go to the general list information page Edit the public HTML pages and text files Go to list archives -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription
Cyndi Norwitz writes: I appreciate your input. I am curious what other server owners/ ISP's do. From the talk on this list, it would seem that any restriction on what listowners can do is considered a violation. Well, I wouldn't go so far as to call it a violation, but I would not want to work under such restrictions myself. Assuming you ran a system with users you didn't know well enough to judge, what sorts of options would you consider implementing? If any... I think that probably what I would consider doing if the market would bear it, and courts would enforce it, is restrict mass subscription privileges to people willing to pay upfront for a multi-year contract, or who pay substantially higher prices for a premium service. If they violate the TOS, they get no refund. If they've been well-behaved but want out early, I'd pay them back pro rata. I also wouldn't advertise the service beyond the bare minimum ... only people who ask for it get it. But somebody who's been around for years and is running a reputable list, hey, that's not that hard to check. I would think it would be easy enough for them to find out that much about you and your service; I think they *do* know you well enough. I'm not criticizing their policy, especially if they're inexpensive, though. Making such judgments is not cheap. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] [dkim-milter-discuss] dkim + mailman + postfix - dkim=fail. RESOLVED
awesome!!! It worked. Thanks so much Jason and everyone. It was exactly same issue that you identified. Appreciate great help from Jason, Mouss and team. Following changes were done in mailman configuration to make it work. -- REMOVE_DKIM_HEADER = YES in defaults.py SMTPPORT=587 in mm_cfg.py - IMPORTANT, POSTIX/DKIMPROXY. -- after above changes and bounce using mailmanctl, yahoo shows domainkeys=pass and gmail too , dkim=pass. Thanks again. Bob. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Jason Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My first guess would be that Mailman is submitting the mail using port 25. See if you can configure Mailman to use port 587 instead. Jason bob 001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/7/08 12:26 PM Also, when I send the simple message from ageoftruth server on one-to-one basis to yahoo id, it says domainkeys=pass. That means it does add the signature. Only when listserv gets involved, postfix and dkimproxy for some reason are not adding the signature. Also, current setting in mailman's Defaults.py is :- REMOVE_DKIM_HEADERS = No. So, it seems postfix and dkimproxy is not adding the signature at all for some reason. It seems, my configuration is not OK :-(. Kindly help. - Regards, Bob. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
