Re: [Mailman-Users] changing message number
Mustafa Akgul wrote: I will move a few lists to mailman, from ecartis. I want to retain message numbers, and continue current sequence. So I need to start message number from a non-zero number. How can I do that ? I am new to mailman. I can undump, config.pck, I can chnage post-id. I do not know, how to put that fiile in pck format. Secondly, I manage to change post-id, will it break anything else ? You can change post_id (not post-id). It won't break anything. Two ways to set post_id are bin/withlist and bin/config_list. With either method, you need to set post_id to a floating point value. E.g., if you want to set it to 237, you need to set it to 237.0. This can be done by putting the single line mlist.post_id = 237.0 in a file and running bin/config_list -i /path/to/file listname I have tried this method. It worked fine. Many thanks Mustafa Akgul You can also set post_id in an interactive withlist session. E.g., for a list named test $ bin/withlist -l test Loading list test (locked) The variable `m' is the test MailList instance m.post_id 0.0 m.post_id = 237.0 m.post_id 237.0 m.Save() Unlocking (but not saving) list: test Finalizing $ The last input following the m.Save() input is a control-D (end of file). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] want to slow down the post of server
hi, i have a list about 36000 member in same domain.when i want to post an email and approve it there is not any problem in mailman server and gateways. but when it start to delivered to my sendmail server,my server load incresase so much and it stop to work properly. what can i do for this problem,i think about to slow down mailman's post, will it work? Thanks, Burcu İnci -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] want to slow down the post of server
Hi, Burcu İnci: hi, i have a list about 36000 member in same domain.when i want to post an email and approve it there is not any problem in mailman server and gateways. but when it start to delivered to my sendmail server,my server load incresase so much and it stop to work properly. what can i do for this problem,i think about to slow down mailman's post, will it work? Have you tried setting SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION in mm_cfg.py and restarting Mailman? Reading Defaults.py is highly recommended as it contains a wealth of settings to tweak Mailman. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] want to slow down the post of server
Thanks much, but no problem with my bandwith,my server take mails or mailman post mails properly, Burcu İNCİ -Original Message- From: Zbigniew Szalbot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 3:08 PM To: James Reid Cc: 'Burcu İnci'; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] want to slow down the post of server Hi, James Reid: The best way I have found to throttle the number of messages coming out of mailman is to use something like the QOS service found in Shorewall. This allows you to control how much of the available bandwidth is used going out of your server + prioritise SMTP with other protocols. But he was referring to his server load increasing so much that it ceases to operate in a stable manner, which throttling bandwidth won't help, or will it? -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] want to slow down the post of server
I think you could set things up so that mailman talks to sendmail / postfix via tcp, which could then be throttled using shorewall -Original Message- From: Zbigniew Szalbot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 1 September 2008 10:08 PM To: James Reid Cc: 'Burcu İnci'; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] want to slow down the post of server Hi, James Reid: The best way I have found to throttle the number of messages coming out of mailman is to use something like the QOS service found in Shorewall. This allows you to control how much of the available bandwidth is used going out of your server + prioritise SMTP with other protocols. But he was referring to his server load increasing so much that it ceases to operate in a stable manner, which throttling bandwidth won't help, or will it? -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] monthly password reminders
Hello, Is there any way, besides editing the options.html template file, to completely disable regular/monthly password reminders? According to the list options page, whether or not a list sends out reminders individual subscribers can still change this setting. Regards, Alan Rubin Technician Unix DCS Midrange Services Phone: +61 (08) 8999 6814 Fax: +61 (08) 8999 7493 e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Deleting Held Messages
Hi: I am running Mailman version 2.1.8. I have most list set to delete held messages after 15 days (last setting on General Settings Page.) However it doesn't seem to be working? Is there something else that has to be done -- like a Cron Job enabled or something? Dave -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] monthly password reminders
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way, besides editing the options.html template file, to completely disable regular/monthly password reminders? According to the list options page, whether or not a list sends out reminders individual subscribers can still change this setting. Granted, it could be more clear, but if you read the description of Get password reminder email for this list? on the options page, it says the user can turn off reminders by selecting No. It does not say the the user can get reminders if the list setting is off. In fact, if the list is set to not send reminders, the list is not included in reminders regardless of any list member's setting. Also, A site can disable monthly reminders all together by removing the cron/mailpasswds entry from Mailman's crontab. However, none of this prevents a user from requesting a reminder from the options login page. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] monthly password reminders
Mark, Is that a singular reminder that is requested and not a periodic one (if monthly reminders are set off)? Regards, Alan Rubin Technician Unix DCS Midrange Services Phone: +61 (08) 8999 6814 Fax: +61 (08) 8999 7493 e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:To mailman-users-bounc [EMAIL PROTECTED], es+alan.rubin=nt.go mailman-users@python.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject 02/09/2008 08:45 AM Re: [Mailman-Users] monthly password reminders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way, besides editing the options.html template file, to completely disable regular/monthly password reminders? According to the list options page, whether or not a list sends out reminders individual subscribers can still change this setting. Granted, it could be more clear, but if you read the description of Get password reminder email for this list? on the options page, it says the user can turn off reminders by selecting No. It does not say the the user can get reminders if the list setting is off. In fact, if the list is set to not send reminders, the list is not included in reminders regardless of any list member's setting. Also, A site can disable monthly reminders all together by removing the cron/mailpasswds entry from Mailman's crontab. However, none of this prevents a user from requesting a reminder from the options login page. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/alan.rubin%40nt.gov.au Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting Held Messages
David Andrews wrote: I am running Mailman version 2.1.8. I have most list set to delete held messages after 15 days (last setting on General Settings Page.) However it doesn't seem to be working? Is there something else that has to be done -- like a Cron Job enabled or something? Yes, it relies on cron/checkdbs, but that should run daily unless you have modified (or not installed) Mailman's crontab. In 2.1.8, the following crons should all be run bumpdigests - periodically increment digest volume # checkdbs - send daily moderator request summary and delete old messages disabled - send reminders and disable bouncing users gate_news - gate from news to mail mailpasswds - send monthly password reminders nightly_gzip - gzip the periodig archive .txt files senddigests - send periodic digests -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] monthly password reminders
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that a singular reminder that is requested and not a periodic one (if monthly reminders are set off)? If the list's send_reminders is set to No, no periodic reminders are sent for that list regardless of the user's setting on the user options page. If the user clicks the Remind button on the options login page (after providing her email address), she will get a one-time reminder regardless of any other settings. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] monthly password reminders
Mark/list, on a different but related tact, what could I alter in the cron script to send out a 'reminder' that the user belongs to the list, but not actually send the password? IT Security is a little antsy about having these passwords floating around through the email system (don't ask). Regards, Alan Rubin Technician Unix DCS Midrange Services Phone: +61 (08) 8999 6814 Fax: +61 (08) 8999 7493 e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:To mailman-users-bounc [EMAIL PROTECTED], es+alan.rubin=nt.go mailman-users@python.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject 02/09/2008 09:05 AM Re: [Mailman-Users] monthly password reminders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that a singular reminder that is requested and not a periodic one (if monthly reminders are set off)? If the list's send_reminders is set to No, no periodic reminders are sent for that list regardless of the user's setting on the user options page. If the user clicks the Remind button on the options login page (after providing her email address), she will get a one-time reminder regardless of any other settings. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/alan.rubin%40nt.gov.au Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] monthly password reminders
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on a different but related tact, what could I alter in the cron script to send
out a 'reminder' that the user belongs to the list, but not actually send the
password? IT Security is a little antsy about having these passwords floating
around through the email system (don't ask).
The easiest way to do this, although not the prettiest would be to
change the lines
# treates [EMAIL PROTECTED] the same as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
try:
password = mlist.getMemberPassword(member)
except Errors.NotAMemberError:
# Here's a member with no passwords, which I think
was
# possible in older versions of Mailman. Log this
and
# move on.
syslog('error', 'password-less member %s for list
%s',
member, mlist.internal_name())
continue
optionsurl = mlist.GetOptionsURL(member)
(lines 152-162 in cron/mailpasswds) to
# treates [EMAIL PROTECTED] the same as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
password = 'password elided'
optionsurl = mlist.GetOptionsURL(member)
or some such.
You may also wish to make an edited version of the cronpass.txt
template that explains what's going on, but note this must be a 'site'
template as monthly password reminders don't come from a list. See
http://wiki.list.org/x/jYA9.
--
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] monthly password reminders
On Sep 1, 2008, at 6:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IT Security is a little antsy about having these passwords floating around through the email system (don't ask). Would they be willing to accept these passwords being mailed around if you were to disable individuals' ability to set their own password? That is, if the only passwords that mailman ever mailed were the mailman generated ones, would they be happier with those? And is there a way to prevent people from using their own passwords? Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] monthly password reminders
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: And is there a way to prevent people from using their own passwords? You would have to disable the user set password in Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py and Mailman/Commands/cmd_subscribe.py and disable the password change in Mailman/Cgi/options.py. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
