[Mailman-Users] Some messages not being posted or delivered
I am having reports from some of my lists that some messages are not getting through to the members but they are visible through the archives. Also I have seen posts go through to the list but not the archives. I have not idea where to start. I know of a particular user who is having problems posting and I can't find anything in my logs that help provide a clue as to what is happening. I am running Mailman 2.1.11 on Red Hat 5.1 and using Postfix. -- Jewel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@
Michael Welch wrote: Right, that must be because this list's Sender: header does not look like a real email address. I wonder why ours are different. This thread has been well covered. I just want to add a couple of things: As mentioned in other replies, the difference in the 'bounces' address is that it is VERP like on this list and not on yours. Also, enabling Mailman's VERP on all list posts will not necessarily stop people from replying to the VERPd address, but it will stop your seeing their replies because VERPd bounces are never unrecognized. Also, if they do it often enough, they will be disabled by bounce processing. Finally, as alluded to in another reply, this is probably not users replying to the -bounces address because they see it in a header. Rather, it is more likely to be user's MUAs. See http://wiki.list.org/x/RoA9. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] spam gatewayed from Usenet to mail bypassesour spam filters
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It might be easier to get Mailman's news-to-mail gateway to mail incoming Usenet messages to the list address instead of directly distributing them to the subscribers though. That's probably not a great idea as ToUsenet comes pretty late in the pipeline. ToUsenet is only involved in gating mail from the list to the newsgroup. Newsgroup to mailman is handled by cron/gate_news which drops messages directly in Mailman's incoming queue. It would be simple to have it mail the message instead, but the issues I see off the top are: 1. Does the MTA spam filtering process treat mail differently if it originates from the local machine? 2. Does the list accept news posted by non-list-members. If so, you'd need to flag the message in some way as being from usenet. This is done in standard gate_news by setting a fromusenet flag in the message's metadata when the message is queued, but if you are mailing the message, you can't do this. As indicated in another reply, another approach would be to have gate_news run the message through the spam checks directly before queueing it. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] spam gatewayed from Usenet to mail bypasses our spam filters
Mark Sapiro wrote: Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It might be easier to get Mailman's news-to-mail gateway to mail incoming Usenet messages to the list address instead of directly distributing them to the subscribers though. That's probably not a great idea as ToUsenet comes pretty late in the pipeline. ToUsenet is only involved in gating mail from the list to the newsgroup. Newsgroup to mailman is handled by cron/gate_news which drops messages directly in Mailman's incoming queue. It would be simple to have it mail the message instead, but the issues I see off the top are: 1. Does the MTA spam filtering process treat mail differently if it originates from the local machine? 2. Does the list accept news posted by non-list-members. If so, you'd need to flag the message in some way as being from usenet. This is done in standard gate_news by setting a fromusenet flag in the message's metadata when the message is queued, but if you are mailing the message, you can't do this. There is another issue. Without the fromusenet flag in the metadata, if you are gating from the list to usenet, the message will be posted back to the news group. Ultimately, you'd need to add a custom handler to the pipeline to detect mail from gate_news and add the fromusenet flag. I think the approach below would be better. As indicated in another reply, another approach would be to have gate_news run the message through the spam checks directly before queueing it. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Securing My Mailman Lists
Jeff Bernier wrote: I have changed the Admin password on the server, and also changed (or thought I did) the Admin passwords for the Mailman lists as well. The old admin password is still working for theses lists. How can I completely remove this old password? Use Mailman's bin/mmsitepass to set the site admin and list creator passwords. Use Mailman's bin/change_pw or the lists web admin interface to change the list admin passwords. Use the lists web admin interface to change the list moderator passwords. If that still leaves old passwords viable, it must be an Apple specific issue. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] appearance of member list (2.1.9)
Ralph Stahl wrote: normally (?) the member list shows all members from A to Z at one page. I have seen a list, where a kind of tabs is above it with links A...Z, and only the members with one of these letters are listet at one page. It seems to be not very useful to me, I'd like to change it to the normal appearance. The web admin membership list is broken into multiple pages when the number of members exceeds the list's admin_member_chunksize attribute (set at list create time - normally 30 members). Beginning in Mailman 2.1.10, this is settable via the list's web admin interface. Prior to that, only command line tools such as bin/config_list can change it. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] mail delivery not consistent and very slow
I recently upgraded my Mailman onto a new machine. It appeared everything was running smoothly except now I have users saying they are posting and not seeing it come through. All messages are successfully posting to the archives and I am seeing most messages get delivered but not 100%. I have read the FAQ's and followed all of the suggestions without any errors: http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030722 http://tinyurl.com/6xrrju* *My smtp-failure and error logs are not helping me determine what's wrong. Whenever I post a test to any list so far it always gets delivered. But I have a few users who said they have tried several times and don't see anything. I had one woman try again this morning and can see it on the archive but not in my email -but other postings have been successful!! Please help me. I have several members upset about the delay or lack of delivery and I can't find out what's going on. Jewel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] One private archive not appearing online
Jewel wrote: The index.html is blank! Not sure how long it's been that way. Is there a way to generate or create a new one? Normally, it gets rewritten with each archived post. Has this list received any posts since you noticed the problem? If there is a good archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox file containing all the list's posts, you could rin bin/arch --wipe to rebuild the archive. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail delivery not consistent and very slow
Jewel wrote: ---I recently upgraded my Mailman onto a new machine. It appeared ---everything was running smoothly except now I have users saying they are ---posting and not seeing it come through. All messages are successfully ---posting to the archives and I am seeing most messages get delivered but ---not 100%. I have read the FAQ's and followed all of the suggestions ---without any errors: ---http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030722 ---http://tinyurl.com/6xrrju* --- ---*My smtp-failure and error logs are not helping me determine what's ---wrong. Whenever I post a test to any list so far it always gets ---delivered. But I have a few users who said they have tried several times ---and don't see anything. I had one woman try again this morning and can ---see it on the archive but not in my email -but other postings have been ---successful!! --- Please help me. I have several members upset about the delay or lack ---of delivery and I can't find out what's going on. --- ---Jewel -- Jewel, I am sure that it would help the gurus if you tell us if you see a/any given ISP involved. I had a prob with a couple gmail users on ONE of my Lists which my hosting Tech gent was able to solve [I don't have a clue, Mark -:):):)]. Ed -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail delivery not consistent and very slow
I know it's not a gmail problem because it's happening with so many lists. I did notice that my CPU is almost always at 100% due to python - don't know why. I know my machine is spitting out lots of mail but cannot figure out what there is such a delay. Ed at JustBrits wrote: Jewel wrote: ---I recently upgraded my Mailman onto a new machine. It appeared ---everything was running smoothly except now I have users saying they are ---posting and not seeing it come through. All messages are successfully ---posting to the archives and I am seeing most messages get delivered but ---not 100%. I have read the FAQ's and followed all of the suggestions ---without any errors: ---http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030722 ---http://tinyurl.com/6xrrju* --- ---*My smtp-failure and error logs are not helping me determine what's ---wrong. Whenever I post a test to any list so far it always gets ---delivered. But I have a few users who said they have tried several times ---and don't see anything. I had one woman try again this morning and can ---see it on the archive but not in my email -but other postings have been ---successful!! --- Please help me. I have several members upset about the delay or lack ---of delivery and I can't find out what's going on. --- ---Jewel -- Jewel, I am sure that it would help the gurus if you tell us if you see a/any given ISP involved. I had a prob with a couple gmail users on ONE of my Lists which my hosting Tech gent was able to solve [I don't have a clue, Mark -:):):)]. Ed -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jewel.brueggeman-makda%40washburn.edu Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Jewel Makda Student Computer Services Coordinator -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed?
I really need someone to help me. I have confirmed that mail is coming from my server but then it disappears. I don't know what logs to look at or what items to check to check if the problem is in fact my machine not able to process the mail. -- Jewel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@
Thanks to all, lots of info in there. I see now that it is probably not user error that is causing this, but that some users have a version of Outlook that may inadvertently picking up the address from the Sender: header. So, I have a feature suggestion: Add an autoreply option for -bounces incoming emails. Mark Sapiro wrote at 09:13 AM 11/18/2008: Michael Welch wrote: Right, that must be because this list's Sender: header does not look like a real email address. I wonder why ours are different. This thread has been well covered. I just want to add a couple of things: As mentioned in other replies, the difference in the 'bounces' address is that it is VERP like on this list and not on yours. Also, enabling Mailman's VERP on all list posts will not necessarily stop people from replying to the VERPd address, but it will stop your seeing their replies because VERPd bounces are never unrecognized. Also, if they do it often enough, they will be disabled by bounce processing. Finally, as alluded to in another reply, this is probably not users replying to the -bounces address because they see it in a header. Rather, it is more likely to be user's MUAs. See http://wiki.list.org/x/RoA9. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.redwoodalliance.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] spam gatewayed from Usenet to mail bypasses our spam filters
cron/gate-news doesn't look all that obtuse. Perhaps I can simply import the SpamBayes machinery and run it before delivering the message to the list. Skip -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed?
Jewel wrote: I really need someone to help me. I have confirmed that mail is coming from my server but then it disappears. I don't know what logs to look at or what items to check to check if the problem is in fact my machine not able to process the mail. You've raised a few issues: missing delivery, slow delivery, lost posts. The FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/4oA9 has some info on mail not being delivered to some users. For slow delivery, check Mailman's 'smtp' log and Mailman's qfiles/out/ queue for signs of backlogging - i.e. anywhere from some to lots of entries in qfiles/out; log entries of the form Nov 18 08:51:29 2008 (30746) message id smtp to LISTNAME for 217 recips, completed in 4.734 seconds with fewer than tens or hundreds of messages per second and timestamps equal to the previous entry's time stamp plus the processing time of this entry. Also check the MTA log and follow a post from the MTA to mailman and back to the MTA and from there to the end users. If posts are being sent to end recipients and not bouncing, they've left your control and if recipients aren't receiving them, you have to look to the receiving server. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed?
At first mail was being delivered - then it stopped - and now it's delivering again but everytime it has been delivering the messages are delivered out of order and the delay can be anywhere from 10 min - 4 hours. I looked at the FAQ and I know this is not my issue because users from gmail, aol, yahoo, etc are receiving - it's just that they response of post is delayed. If I send a test to the mailman list (which I am a member of) I can see in the /var/log/maillog that the message was sent and my smtp log looks fine. I can also see the post in archives. A while later I will finally see the post in my inbox. I am concerned that my machine is the culprit but am not sure. I have check the qfiles/in and qfiles/out and they are empty. I do have a lot in qfiles/bad but that's because there is a lot of bad emails on these lists. I am not sure how to follow a post from MTA to Mailman and back to MTA to confirm my machine is processing correctly. Thanks, Jewel Mark Sapiro wrote: Jewel wrote: I really need someone to help me. I have confirmed that mail is coming from my server but then it disappears. I don't know what logs to look at or what items to check to check if the problem is in fact my machine not able to process the mail. You've raised a few issues: missing delivery, slow delivery, lost posts. The FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/4oA9 has some info on mail not being delivered to some users. For slow delivery, check Mailman's 'smtp' log and Mailman's qfiles/out/ queue for signs of backlogging - i.e. anywhere from some to lots of entries in qfiles/out; log entries of the form Nov 18 08:51:29 2008 (30746) message id smtp to LISTNAME for 217 recips, completed in 4.734 seconds with fewer than tens or hundreds of messages per second and timestamps equal to the previous entry's time stamp plus the processing time of this entry. Also check the MTA log and follow a post from the MTA to mailman and back to the MTA and from there to the end users. If posts are being sent to end recipients and not bouncing, they've left your control and if recipients aren't receiving them, you have to look to the receiving server. -- Jewel Makda Student Computer Services Coordinator -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] The Mysterious Disappearing Disk Space (fwd)
J.A. Terranson wrote: I have looked through the archives for something similar to my issue, and I noticed that by searching on disk full, I get similar reports beginning in roughly July of 08. As with these other reports, I have noticed *tremendous* disappearing space. When I tried to find the actual files, I was unsuccessful. Interestingly, if I stop mailman and then restart it, the missing space miraculously reappears! Is this Solaris? If so, see the thread beginning at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2008-July/062359.html which is about an alleged memory leak. If you're running out of disk, and restarting the processes solves it, it may be swap space that's eating up the disk. So, now that the background is over with, here's where I find myself (besides just looking stupid): (1) Yesterday I enabled VERP, and it appeared to be working well, At the time I turned on VERP, I had around 5gb of free space (which would take about two weeks to disappear before VERP). 5gb of free disk space doesn't seem like a lot these days. (2) Around 2pm today, the disk was full, and mailman died. Enabling VERP might cause the MTA to use a lot more queue space, but I don't see that it would affect Mailman much. (3) My inkling of something being wrong was this on the web interface: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.11rc2 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. (4) Upon looking at the system in response to the above missive, I checked and saw the system ws out of space again. I did what I always do - shut down mailman (which usually drops ~5gb of missing space, and then restart it. Everything before today has come up roses doing this. So are you saying that this time you didn't recover any disk space or just that the web error didn't go away. If the latter, it seems likely that the disk space error caused a config.pck file to be corrupted and that is the cause of the recurrent bug. What is the traceback from the most recent of these from the error log? (5) There is nothing in any of the logs that indicate why this message is continuing to poke fun at me. There almost certainly is something in Mailman's error log unless the logfile just can't be grown to accommodate the message. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed?
Jewel wrote: I am not sure how to follow a post from MTA to Mailman and back to MTA to confirm my machine is processing correctly. That depends on your MTA and what is in the MTA logs. You should be able to track them by message-id when they come in, and again when they go back out, and that will tell you how long the delay was. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed?
Jewel wrote: At first mail was being delivered - then it stopped - and now it's delivering again but everytime it has been delivering the messages are delivered out of order and the delay can be anywhere from 10 min - 4 hours. Is your incoming MTA greylisting? This can cause delays and out of sequence messages, and you can't control the delay because it's entirely up to the sending MTA. However, if it is greylisting, it would normally affect only the first post from any particular user to any particular list. Also, if the message reaches the list archive without delay, that rules out greylisting. I looked at the FAQ and I know this is not my issue because users from gmail, aol, yahoo, etc are receiving - it's just that they response of post is delayed. OK if the problem is only delay and not totally missing messages, however, it is possible that some AOL (or other ISP) users will receive a message and others not because of their individual whitelists, spam options, etc. If I send a test to the mailman list (which I am a member of) I can see in the /var/log/maillog that the message was sent and my smtp log looks fine. I can also see the post in archives. A while later I will finally see the post in my inbox. This sounds like a backlogged out/ queue -- For slow delivery, check Mailman's 'smtp' log and Mailman's qfiles/out/ queue for signs of backlogging - i.e. anywhere from some to lots of entries in qfiles/out; log entries of the form Nov 18 08:51:29 2008 (30746) message id smtp to LISTNAME for 217 recips, completed in 4.734 seconds with fewer than tens or hundreds of messages per second and timestamps equal to the previous entry's time stamp plus the processing time of this entry. I am concerned that my machine is the culprit but am not sure. I have check the qfiles/in and qfiles/out and they are empty. OK, so the out/ queue is not backlogged all the time, but maybe it is sometimes. Maybe it's not at all in which case the delays are in outbound Postfix or beyond. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed?
I am using Postfix and when I send a test to the mailman list, which I am a member of I can see it being sent in the maillog: Nov 18 17:39:42 lists postfix/smtp[3953]: DBFB98C0011: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=ims.washburnlaw.edu[198.252.9.211]:25, delay=0.11, delays=0.03/0.02/0.05/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Message accepted for delivery) Now where and what am I looking for in what log. When I look at; /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp I see stuff like: Nov 18 17:52:09 2008 (2062) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips, completed in 0.045 seconds Is this what I am suppose to be looking for? By the way, right now (probably because everyone's gone from work) mail is getting delivered within 5 minutes or less. Yet during lunchtime it would be hours of a delay. - Original Message - From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:46 pm Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed? To: Jewel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mail List - Mailman mailman-users@python.org Jewel wrote: At first mail was being delivered - then it stopped - and now it's delivering again but everytime it has been delivering the messages are delivered out of order and the delay can be anywhere from 10 min - 4 hours. Is your incoming MTA greylisting? This can cause delays and out of sequence messages, and you can't control the delay because it's entirely up to the sending MTA. However, if it is greylisting, it would normally affect only the first post from any particular user to any particular list. Also, if the message reaches the list archive without delay, that rules out greylisting. I looked at the FAQ and I know this is not my issue because users from gmail, aol, yahoo, etc are receiving - it's just that they response of post is delayed. OK if the problem is only delay and not totally missing messages, however, it is possible that some AOL (or other ISP) users will receive a message and others not because of their individual whitelists, spam options, etc. If I send a test to the mailman list (which I am a member of) I can see in the /var/log/maillog that the message was sent and my smtp log looks fine. I can also see the post in archives. A while later I will finally see the post in my inbox. This sounds like a backlogged out/ queue -- For slow delivery, check Mailman's 'smtp' log and Mailman's qfiles/out/ queue for signs of backlogging - i.e. anywhere from some to lots of entries in qfiles/out; log entries of the form Nov 18 08:51:29 2008 (30746) message id smtp to LISTNAME for 217 recips, completed in 4.734 seconds with fewer than tens or hundreds of messages per second and timestamps equal to the previous entry's time stamp plus the processing time of this entry. I am concerned that my machine is the culprit but am not sure. I have check the qfiles/in and qfiles/out and they are empty. OK, so the out/ queue is not backlogged all the time, but maybe it is sometimes. Maybe it's not at all in which case the delays are in outbound Postfix or beyond. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using Postfix and when I send a test to the mailman list, which I am a member of I can see it being sent in the maillog: Nov 18 17:39:42 lists postfix/smtp[3953]: DBFB98C0011: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=ims.washburnlaw.edu[198.252.9.211]:25, delay=0.11, delays=0.03/0.02/0.05/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Message accepted for delivery) Okay, so look for more lines like this in your postfix log, specifically you're looking for lines with a high value in the delay= field. Now where and what am I looking for in what log. When I look at; /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp I see stuff like: Nov 18 17:52:09 2008 (2062) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips, completed in 0.045 seconds That just tells you how long it took for Mailman to hand off the message to postfix. If there was a significant delay internal to Mailman, it would show up here. But everything you've said so far indicates that the delays you're seeing may not be internal to Mailman. So, you need to look in the MTA logs, too. Is this what I am suppose to be looking for? By the way, right now (probably because everyone's gone from work) mail is getting delivered within 5 minutes or less. Yet during lunchtime it would be hours of a delay. Maybe you are rate-limited by your ISP? They only allow you to send so many messages per hour, and with your mailing lists you easily exceed those limits at lunchtime? That's a question you'll need to take to your ISP and have them answer for you. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed?
Brad Knowles wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using Postfix and when I send a test to the mailman list, which I am a member of I can see it being sent in the maillog: Nov 18 17:39:42 lists postfix/smtp[3953]: DBFB98C0011: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=ims.washburnlaw.edu[198.252.9.211]:25, delay=0.11, delays=0.03/0.02/0.05/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Message accepted for delivery) Okay, so look for more lines like this in your postfix log, specifically you're looking for lines with a high value in the delay= field. _This is my postfix mail log - so if I see it was sent here like the above example doesn't that mean it has left my machine and it out of my control at that point?_ Now where and what am I looking for in what log. When I look at; /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp I see stuff like: Nov 18 17:52:09 2008 (2062) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips, completed in 0.045 seconds That just tells you how long it took for Mailman to hand off the message to postfix. If there was a significant delay internal to Mailman, it would show up here. But everything you've said so far indicates that the delays you're seeing may not be internal to Mailman. So, you need to look in the MTA logs, too. Is this what I am suppose to be looking for? By the way, right now (probably because everyone's gone from work) mail is getting delivered within 5 minutes or less. Yet during lunchtime it would be hours of a delay. Maybe you are rate-limited by your ISP? They only allow you to send so many messages per hour, and with your mailing lists you easily exceed those limits at lunchtime? _ That rate-limiting would make sense because I am forwarding all the mail to a relay which can only deliver 2-3 messages per second._ That's a question you'll need to take to your ISP and have them answer for you. -- Jewel Makda Student Computer Services Coordinator -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Moving lists without shell access
Is there a way to move lists from one server to another without shell access? I am able to download the archives from the admin interface, but don't have ssh access Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed?
This is my postfix mail log - so if I see it was sent here like the below example doesn't that mean it has left my machine and it out of my control at that point? Brad Knowles wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using Postfix and when I send a test to the mailman list, which I am a member of I can see it being sent in the maillog: Nov 18 17:39:42 lists postfix/smtp[3953]: DBFB98C0011: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=ims.washburnlaw.edu[198.252.9.211]:25, delay=0.11, delays=0.03/0.02/0.05/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Message accepted for delivery) Okay, so look for more lines like this in your postfix log, specifically you're looking for lines with a high value in the delay= field. Now where and what am I looking for in what log. When I look at; /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp I see stuff like: Nov 18 17:52:09 2008 (2062) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips, completed in 0.045 seconds That just tells you how long it took for Mailman to hand off the message to postfix. If there was a significant delay internal to Mailman, it would show up here. But everything you've said so far indicates that the delays you're seeing may not be internal to Mailman. So, you need to look in the MTA logs, too. Is this what I am suppose to be looking for? By the way, right now (probably because everyone's gone from work) mail is getting delivered within 5 minutes or less. Yet during lunchtime it would be hours of a delay. Maybe you are rate-limited by your ISP? They only allow you to send so many messages per hour, and with your mailing lists you easily exceed those limits at lunchtime? _ That rate-limiting would make sense because I am forwarding all the mail to a relay which can only deliver 2-3 messages per second. That's a question you'll need to take to your ISP and have them answer for you. -- Jewel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Attachment URL in the archive is mangled.
Hi All In the archives, the URL to attachments is getting mangled. Somehow an = gets inserted into the URL (see snippet below), and the links returns Private archive file not found. If I remove the = from the URL, all is well. Can anyone shed any light on this, and how I might correct things so the URL appears correctly (without the =) in the archive? BTW. The attachments are travelling okay with the messages. It's just in the archive that there is a problem. cheers Mark Dale -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: test.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 5929 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://myDomain.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/myListname/attachments/200= 81119/d1fa80ed/test.pdf - But this works: http://myDomain.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/myListname/attachments/20081119/d1fa80ed/test.pdf -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@
Michael Welch writes: So, I have a feature suggestion: Add an autoreply option for -bounces incoming emails. Executive summary: not likely to help, not likely to happen. This is just going to annoy people who can't easily help themselves (Outlook and Blackberry users, apparently). You really don't want to do that, even if it lightens your load of direct contact because they get the autoreply. The fact that they are using *broken* software[1] cuts no ice with them; everybody uses Outlook, so the rest of us should just shut up and cope. It also creates backscatter. Spambots harvest those -bounces addresses, and then your autoreply will go back to some forged sender, who often enough is a real mailbox somewhere. Guess who they will think spammed them? And they will be correct! in the sense that it was your decision to set up an autoreply that is so easy to abuse. (This is true of all autoreplies, by the way, which has been a big headache for many list admins and the Mailman devs for years. Search the Mailman-Users archive for backscatter.) Footnotes: [1] RFC 2822 specifies that Sender headers indicate the administrative agent who handled the mail, as a secretary does for his boss. If there is a problem in transmission, a missing attachment for example, then you contact the secretary and don't bother the boss, right? Replies discussing the content however are sent to the boss, right? Even if her secretary actually is previewing and prioritizing the mail. Email is the same. Technical problems with the content go to Sender, and discussion of content goes to Reply-To (if it exists) or From. In the case of email, the admin agent is typically a program, so this distinction needs to be respected even more than in the case of a human secretary. Where the secretary would discard or reroute the junk, the program isn't smart enough to do anything but forward to you, and your time is infinitely more expensive than the program's. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] spam gatewayed from Usenet to mail bypasses our spam filters
Mark Sapiro writes: That's probably not a great idea as ToUsenet comes pretty late in the pipeline. ToUsenet is only involved in gating mail from the list to the newsgroup. Newsgroup to mailman is handled by cron/gate_news which drops messages directly in Mailman's incoming queue. There is another issue. Without the fromusenet flag in the metadata, Sorry about the bizarre phrasing. This is what I had in mind when I mentioned ToUsenet. I think the approach below would be better. As indicated in another reply, another approach would be to have gate_news run the message through the spam checks directly before queueing it. As Brad points out, though, those checks are already done by the MTA, and in fact may not even be implementable outside the MTA (if they're implemented as milters, for example). In general, there really is a tradeoff here. Although Skip seems happy enough, as I guess SpamBayes catches most (all?) of the spam his system catches. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] spam gatewayed from Usenet to mail bypasses our spam filters
Stephen In general, there really is a tradeoff here. Although Skip Stephen seems happy enough, as I guess SpamBayes catches most (all?) of Stephen the spam his system catches. SpamBayes is one of the things that mail.python.org does for incoming mail. Based on my own personal filters I suspect it would stop much of what is currently leaking through to the list from usenet. Adding a SpamBayes check to gate-news to score the incoming usenet postings would be pretty trivial. Skip -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed?
Jewel writes: Brad Knowles wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using Postfix and when I send a test to the mailman list, which I am a member of I can see it being sent in the maillog: Nov 18 17:39:42 lists postfix/smtp[3953]: DBFB98C0011: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=ims.washburnlaw.edu[198.252.9.211]:25, delay=0.11, delays=0.03/0.02/0.05/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Message accepted for delivery) Okay, so look for more lines like this in your postfix log, specifically you're looking for lines with a high value in the delay= field. _This is my postfix mail log - so if I see it was sent here like the above example doesn't that mean it has left my machine and it out of my control at that point?_ Yes. What Brad said is to look for more like it with longer delays. Something like grep 'delay=[1-9]' $POSTFIX_LOG will catch really bad delays ( 1 second) for you. That rate-limiting would make sense because I am forwarding all the mail to a relay which can only deliver 2-3 messages per second._ Ouch! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail not being processed?
on 11/18/08 6:12 PM, Jewel said: _This is my postfix mail log - so if I see it was sent here like the above example doesn't that mean it has left my machine and it out of my control at that point?_ For that one copy of that one message, yes -- it's been delivered. And that delay only covers when the message comes into the postfix queue and when it is delivered from the postfix queue. That doesn't take into account the amount of time that the message may have been sitting in the Mailman queue, but then we should be able to account for that in the Mailman logs. But lots of messages showing up with a high value in the delay= parameter would clearly show that the problem is after Mailman, and would be an issue that needs to be resolved within postfix, or between postfix and your upstream server(s). That rate-limiting would make sense because I am forwarding all the mail to a relay which can only deliver 2-3 messages per second._ That would do it. You need to talk to your ISP. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving lists without shell access
on 11/18/08 6:36 PM, Scott Race said: Is there a way to move lists from one server to another without shell access? I am able to download the archives from the admin interface, but don't have ssh access Thanks! There's no way to import the archives without using the command-line interface. Not unless you want to re-send those messages to the new mailing list from an external system. The rest of the mailing list configuration may be something you can replicate by putting up one web admin page right next to the other and then doing some cutting and pasting, but it may be a pain-in-the-butt. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Attachment URL in the archive is mangled.
on 11/18/08 6:52 PM, Mark Dale said: Somehow an = gets inserted into the URL (see snippet below), and the links returns Private archive file not found. That's URL-encoded line folding that is not being properly interpreted by the recipient. If I remove the = from the URL, all is well. Can anyone shed any light on this, and how I might correct things so the URL appears correctly (without the =) in the archive? Good question. I'm not sure that this problem can be fixed, short of fixing the clients to properly understand URL-encoded line folding. But I do hold out hope that Mark Sapiro or one of the other core developers can prove me wrong. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Attachment URL in the archive is mangled.
Mark Dale wrote: In the archives, the URL to attachments is getting mangled. Somehow an = gets inserted into the URL (see snippet below), and the links returns Private archive file not found. If I remove the = from the URL, all is well. Can anyone shed any light on this, and how I might correct things so the URL appears correctly (without the =) in the archive? BTW. The attachments are travelling okay with the messages. It's just in the archive that there is a problem. cheers Mark Dale -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: test.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 5929 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://myDomain.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/myListname/attachments/200= 81119/d1fa80ed/test.pdf This appears to be a problem with encoding/decoding of quoted-printable. What Mailman version is this? If Mailman is recent enough to have it, is Non-digest options - scrub-nondigest Yes or No? (your The attachments are travelling okay with the messages implies no, but just checking.) Is your list digestable and if so, are the links in the plain digest OK or are they like the archive? Does this happen with every attachment, or only in some messages? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Attachment URL in the archive is mangled.
Hi Mark In answer to your questions ... I am using Mailman version: 2.1.5 Subscribers can choose digest if they want. The link is broken in the digest messages, just like in the archive. The broken link happens for every PDF file, even though the PDF arrives with the email. (Doesn't arrive in the digest, just a broken link) The link is almost okay, it's just the = sign that gets inserted that messes things up. If it is a Word.doc that gets attached, no URL appears at all in the archive, not is there even a scrubbed message. Also, Word.doc files don't even arrive with the email. cheers MArk Dale Mark Sapiro wrote: Mark Dale wrote: In the archives, the URL to attachments is getting mangled. Somehow an = gets inserted into the URL (see snippet below), and the links returns Private archive file not found. If I remove the = from the URL, all is well. Can anyone shed any light on this, and how I might correct things so the URL appears correctly (without the =) in the archive? BTW. The attachments are travelling okay with the messages. It's just in the archive that there is a problem. cheers Mark Dale -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: test.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 5929 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://myDomain.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/myListname/attachments/200= 81119/d1fa80ed/test.pdf This appears to be a problem with encoding/decoding of quoted-printable. What Mailman version is this? If Mailman is recent enough to have it, is Non-digest options - scrub-nondigest Yes or No? (your The attachments are travelling okay with the messages implies no, but just checking.) Is your list digestable and if so, are the links in the plain digest OK or are they like the archive? Does this happen with every attachment, or only in some messages? -- -- Mark Dale GeniusMoon Tel: 02 6100 3131 Fax: 02 6103 9130 Mob: 0403 831 748 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geniusmoon.com.au -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] spam gatewayed from Usenet to mail bypasses our spam filters
Mark Sapiro wrote: As indicated in another reply, another approach would be to have gate_news run the message through the spam checks directly before queueing it. Another way could be to have a moderated group, with the moderation address set to the Mailman list post address, though this has its own problems. The issue with running the spam checks is that the spam processor may be on a different machine to the host running the Mailman. Andrew. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Site Admin email Problem
Mailman used to send me an email as the site admin that a new list has been created. I use the web interface to create new lists. This email had the aliases I needed to add to the /etc/mail/aliases file in the body of the email. I have upgraded Mailman months ago but didn't notice that I had not been receiving this until now as the lists were already setup. I know I can run the genaliases command to get the same output but I fear I am not seeing all of the mailman site admin email. Is the email sent from a python script to an alias? is it specified in a config file? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Issues with sending messages to list
Hi there, I manage three announcement only lists. I had some issues with the server they were running on, because of which, I had to restart the server. However, since starting the server, I can't seem to be able to send any mails to any of the three lists. I checked the mail logs (/var/log/maillog), and the following entry was found for a test message send to the test list: Nov 18 01:29:51 ip-X sendmail[13901]: mAI8ToHD013890: to=|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=33119, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent To me, this means that the mail was sent to the mailman process. (I have taken out the actual ip address and the domain for privacy reasons). So, why would the users on the test list not get the messages? Also, which log messages should I look for and rely on? The var/log/maillog or the log messages in the mailman directory? Any help appreciated. Regards, Vikram Goyal -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
