[Mailman-Users] show both list and user address in the header

2008-11-30 Thread Bettina Olker

Hello,

is there a way to use the anonymous_list function, but add the original 
user mail address somewhere in the header/mail? I'd like to use the list 
name in the from field (to make it easily recognizable in the mail 
program), but also offer the possibility of a direct reply to the user 
by adding the user's mail address.


Thanks for your help
B. Olker
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[Mailman-Users] list tilts!!

2008-11-30 Thread faisal anif

hi,
 
I have 5 lists, list1, list2, list3, list4, and list5..
 
all the lists are working fine except list4, when adding or removing members 
from list4 it just tilts and nothing happens..
 
either by MASS SUBSCRIBE, or MASS REMOVAL or using add_members or remove 
members via SSH it just holds and nothing happens even if I left it for 30 
minutes.. nothing until I click Ctrl+C to return to the command line..
 
what could be the problem?
 
Thanks
 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list tilts!!

2008-11-30 Thread J.A. Terranson

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, faisal anif wrote:

 hi,
  
 I have 5 lists, list1, list2, list3, list4, and list5..
  
 all the lists are working fine except list4, when adding or removing members 
 from list4 it just tilts and nothing happens..
  
 either by MASS SUBSCRIBE, or MASS REMOVAL or using add_members or remove 
 members via SSH it just holds and nothing happens even if I left it for 30 
 minutes.. nothing until I click Ctrl+C to return to the command line..
  
 what could be the problem?

Have you checked ownerships and permissions?
 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list tilts!!

2008-11-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
faisal anif wrote:
 
I have 5 lists, list1, list2, list3, list4, and list5..
 
all the lists are working fine except list4, when adding or removing members 
from list4 it just tilts and nothing happens..
 
either by MASS SUBSCRIBE, or MASS REMOVAL or using add_members or remove 
members via SSH it just holds and nothing happens even if I left it for 30 
minutes.. nothing until I click Ctrl+C to return to the command line..
 
what could be the problem?


My first thought is a stale lock. See the FAQ at
http://wiki.list.org/x/noA9. However, this is not consistent with
your being able to access the web admin interface for the list if in
fact you can.

Read the FAQ and check for stale locks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] show both list and user address in the header

2008-11-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bettina Olker wrote:

is there a way to use the anonymous_list function, but add the original 
user mail address somewhere in the header/mail?


No. The intent of the anonymous_list setting is to make posts anonymous.


I'd like to use the list 
name in the from field (to make it easily recognizable in the mail 
program), but also offer the possibility of a direct reply to the user 
by adding the user's mail address.


subject_prefix is the normal way to make list posts recognizable as
such.

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[Mailman-Users] html and footer attachment

2008-11-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've got a tool which generates html mail to a number of mailman lists.  
I recently converted this to send html formatted mail.  The mailman 
attached footer (the four liner footer which details info about the 
list) is now being delivered as an attachment to each mail.  Is there a 
way to get mailman to associate this footer to be just a continuation of 
the html mail body?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] html and footer attachment

2008-11-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've got a tool which generates html mail to a number of mailman lists.  
I recently converted this to send html formatted mail.  The mailman 
attached footer (the four liner footer which details info about the 
list) is now being delivered as an attachment to each mail.  Is there a 
way to get mailman to associate this footer to be just a continuation of 
the html mail body?


See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9.

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[Mailman-Users] List disappears now.

2008-11-30 Thread J.A. Terranson

So, we've gone from disappearing 'space to a disappearing list!

The machine in question has no disappearing space, but after running
flawlessly for 6/7 months, the lists page only shows 3 out of the four
active lists (there's 2 admins, but I'm the only one who would do
anything other than approve messages).

at http://lists.domain.com/mailman/listinfo/
I see

list2   Description
list3   Description
list4   Description

-- list1 is *gone*, yet is is fully operational and carrying heavy
traffic.  i can reach list1 directly at

http://lists.domain.com/mailman/listinfo/list1


On the file systems, everything *seems* OK (I ran perm_chk to be sure):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/spv/mailman]# ls -al lists
total 14
drwxrwsr-x   7 root mailman  512 Jul  1 12:57 .
drwxrwsr-x  19 mailman  mailman  512 Nov 27 14:47 ..
drwxrwsr-x   3 apache   mailman  512 Nov 30 20:34 list1
drwxrwsr-x   3 apache   mailman  512 Nov 30 18:35 list2
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  512 Nov 30 00:10 mailman
drwxrwsr-x   3 apache   mailman  512 Nov 30 20:48 list3
drwxrwsr-x   3 apache   mailman  512 Nov 30 19:09 list4

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/spv/mailman]# cd archives
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/spv/mailman]# ls -al
total 8
drwxrwsr-x   4 root mailman  512 Jun 24 01:01 .
drwxrwsr-x  19 mailman  mailman  512 Nov 27 14:47 ..
drwxrwsr-x  12 apache   mailman  512 Jul  1 12:57 private
drwxrwsr-x   2 apache   mailman  512 Jul  1 12:57 public
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/spv/mailman/archives]# ls -al private
total 24
drwxrwsr-x  12 apache  mailman   512 Jul  1 12:57 .
drwxrwsr-x   4 rootmailman   512 Jun 24 01:01 ..
drwxrwsr-x  10 apache  mailman  1024 Nov  2 00:05 list1
drwxrwsr-x   2 apache  mailman   512 Jun 28 00:10 list1.mbox
drwxrwsr-x  10 apache  mailman  1024 Nov  2 00:05 list2
drwxrwsr-x   2 apache  mailman   512 Jun 28 00:21 list2.mbox
drwxrwsr-x   5 apache  mailman   512 Jul  3 03:27 mailman
drwxrwsr-x   2 apache  mailman   512 Jun 24 01:19 mailman.mbox
drwxrwsr-x   5 apache  mailman   512 Jul  1 12:49 list3
drwxrwsr-x   2 apache  mailman   512 Jun 28 00:18 list3.mbox
drwxrwsr-x   5 apache  mailman   512 Jul  1 12:47 list4
drwxrwsr-x   2 apache  mailman   512 Jun 28 00:18 list4.mbox

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/spv/mailman/archives]# ls -al public/
total 4
drwxrwsr-x  2 apache  mailman  512 Jul  1 12:57 .
drwxrwsr-x  4 rootmailman  512 Jun 24 01:01 ..
lrwxr-xr-x  1 apache  mailman   48 Jun 28 00:09 list1 -
/usr/spv/mailman/archives/private/list1
lrwxr-xr-x  1 apache  mailman   49 Jun 28 00:16 list2 -
/usr/spv/mailman/archives/private/list2
lrwxr-xr-x  1 apache  mailman   53 Jun 28 00:12 list3 -
/usr/spv/mailman/archives/private/list3
lrwxr-xr-x  1 apache  mailman   52 Jun 28 00:15 list4 -
/usr/spv/mailman/archives/private/list4
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/spv/mailman/archives]#



I've never seen this before - how about anyone here?  the first anyone
noticed this was about an hour ago, but it could have happened anytime in
the last few weeks.

this is clearly something simple and in my face, but I dont see it.

//Alif

(BTW, the box with the disappearing space looks like logfiles - not done
there yet, but I'm 90% certain it's rotation)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List disappears now.

2008-11-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
J.A. Terranson wrote:

So, we've gone from disappearing 'space to a disappearing list!



And what is the status of disappearing 'space?


The machine in question has no disappearing space, but after running
flawlessly for 6/7 months, the lists page only shows 3 out of the four
active lists (there's 2 admins, but I'm the only one who would do
anything other than approve messages).



See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/6oA9

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List disappears now.

2008-11-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote:

And what is the status of disappearing 'space?


Having not read far enough down in your post.


(BTW, the box with the disappearing space looks like logfiles - not done
there yet, but I'm 90% certain it's rotation)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] List disappears now.

2008-11-30 Thread J.A. Terranson


On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/6oA9

What, besides clicking the web interface, would cause this to flip?  2
people have the password.  I haven't been there since I set this up months
ago, and I checked with the other admin, and she says shes only approved
postings, and is afraid of the rest of the UI (I believe that BTW-she's
just *terrified* of the ui).

I though about this and then dismissed it - improperly it would seem
(blushing), as I should be the only one to touch it.

Thanks for allowing me to be a genuine schmuck :-)  I both appreciate the
help, and the self-inflicted reminder to check the obvious even if its
impossible.

Nevertheless, just for me, was there another way?

//Alif


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Re: [Mailman-Users] List disappears now.

2008-11-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
J.A. Terranson

Nevertheless, just for me, was there another way?


List attributes like advertised can be changed via the web admin ui and
via command line tools, e.g. bin/config_list and bin/withlist.

They can also be inadvertently changed by restoring old backups of the
lists/LISTNAME/config.pck file, but that doesn't seem to be much of a
possibility here.

There is one other rare possibility. If the list was originally created
as a Mailman 2.0 list and migrated to 2.1, the migration converted the
2.0 lists/LISTNAME/config.db file to an equivalent
lists/LISTNAME/config.pck, but it left the lists/LISTNAME/config.db
file in place. You should remove these files or move them aside. The
reason is if somehow hboth the lists/LISTNAME/config.pck and
lists/LISTNAME/config.pck.last files should become corrupt and
unreadable, Mailman will fall back to the now ancient
lists/LISTNAME/config.db if there is one. It is also not likely that
this was the reason either.

As far as I know, no other Mailman process changes these attributes.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] show both list and user address in the header

2008-11-30 Thread Bettina Olker

Thanks for the info.
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