Re: [Mailman-Users] How-to suppress replies to mail sent tolist-subscr...@...
Hi Robert and Mark. Doesn't the respond_to_post_requests (to be found in the [General Options] page of the admin interface) do the trick? ---snip--- Send mail to poster when their posting is held for approval? (Edit respond_to_post_requests) (*) No ( ) Yes ---snap--- Just my two cents, Ulf Dunkel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't show received mail on Mailman Archives
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 07:53 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: Now, I can subscribe the maillist, mailman mailed me passcode, confirm mails. And I can send e-mail to maillist address. It seems OK, but I found that I never receive the mail from mailman and can't find mails I have sent before, which is too say that mailman archives is empty. I checked my mail log, I found my server did received my mail. But I didn't know where to check now. What does the mail log say was done with the mail? I'm using Postfix Mail Server 2.5.1 now. I use webmin to check mailman account, and found that all mails, I have sent before, are in the mailbox, which was NOT piped to Mailman. Was it piped to Mailman? Well, did u mean configurations in httpd.conf? I have added this in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/www/mailman/cgi-bin/ Directory /var/www/mailman/cgi-bin/ AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Alias /pipermail/ /var/www/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /var/www/mailman/archives/public Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory # Uncomment the following line, replacing www.example.com with your server's # name, to redirect queries to /mailman to the listinfo page (recommended). Also see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9. Thanks for this link, yeah, it must be something wrong here. Step 1: I have checked ~mailman/bin/check_perms, and found some permission issue. So I use sudo to correct these problems, until I got $ sudo bin/check_perms No problems found After this, I have found that http://palfocus.oicp.net/pipermail/mailman/ is forbidden, 403 error. Step 2: $ ps auxww| grep mailmanctl |grep -v grep blank $ ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon' blank So I just run following commands to get qrunner running. $ sudo bin/mailmanctl start Starting Mailman's master qrunner. dan...@palfocus:/var/www/mailman$ ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon' mailman 20440 0.0 1.8 10180 4816 ?Ss 20:23 0:00 /usr/bin/python bin/mailmanctl start mailman 20441 0.2 2.5 9832 6516 ?S20:23 0:00 /usr/bin/python /var/www/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s mailman 20442 0.2 2.5 9864 6536 ?S20:23 0:00 /usr/bin/python /var/www/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s mailman 20443 0.2 2.5 9808 6500 ?S20:23 0:00 /usr/bin/python /var/www/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s mailman 20444 0.2 2.5 9820 6516 ?S20:23 0:00 /usr/bin/python /var/www/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 20445 0.2 2.5 9808 6552 ?S20:23 0:00 /usr/bin/python /var/www/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s mailman 20446 0.2 2.7 9864 6916 ?S20:23 0:00 /usr/bin/python /var/www/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 20447 0.2 2.6 9832 6720 ?S20:23 0:00 /usr/bin/python /var/www/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s mailman 20448 0.2 2.5 9836 6520 ?S20:23 0:00 /usr/bin/python /var/www/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s Step 3: It seems correct $ grep mailman /etc/aliases ## mailman mailing list #mailman: |/var/www/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman #mailman-admin:|/var/www/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman #mailman-bounces: |/var/www/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman #mailman-confirm: |/var/www/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman #mailman-join: |/var/www/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman #mailman-leave:|/var/www/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman #mailman-owner:|/var/www/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman #mailman-request: |/var/www/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman #mailman-subscribe:|/var/www/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman #mailman-unsubscribe: |/var/www/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman Step 4: It seems OK. $ ls -l ./locks total 8 -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 61 2009-03-18 02:23 master-qrunner -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 61 2009-03-18 02:23 master-qrunner.palfocus.oicp.net.20440 Step 5: $ ps aux |grep 20440 |grep -v grep mailman 20440 0.0 1.8 10180 4816 ?Ss 20:23 0:00 /usr/bin/python bin/mailmanctl start Well, I'm NOT expert on this. I think I can just find some easy problems. So I put all steps that I have done here. But After this, the problem still exists. Please help me on this. Any hint or advice is mostly appreciated. So I can just follow instructions to find out what's wrong with the server. I use sendmail and Fedora 5 last time. But I have found that it is different this time. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
[Mailman-Users] Poster not Receiving Postings
Not sure if anyone has been experiencing the same problem. I have a poster who uses a gmail account to post and he is not getting a copy of the posting? Any suggestions in trying to resolve this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Brian Canty Manager Computer Information Services American Psychoanalytic Association 212-752-0450 x17 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Poster not Receiving Postings
Brian Canty wrote: Not sure if anyone has been experiencing the same problem. I have a poster who uses a gmail account to post and he is not getting a copy of the posting? Any suggestions in trying to resolve this would be greatly appreciated. That's a known problem with gmail. There's something about this in the FAQ Wiki, but I don't remember exactly where. -- Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.orgIf you like Jazz/RB guitar, check out LinkedIn Profile: my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxuhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Poster not Receiving Postings
Brad Knowles wrote: Brian Canty wrote: Not sure if anyone has been experiencing the same problem. I have a poster who uses a gmail account to post and he is not getting a copy of the posting? Any suggestions in trying to resolve this would be greatly appreciated. That's a known problem with gmail. There's something about this in the FAQ Wiki, but I don't remember exactly where. It's here: http://wiki.list.org/x/2IA9 (I just searched for gmail) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Poster not Receiving Postings
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:06:47AM -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: Brian Canty wrote: Not sure if anyone has been experiencing the same problem. I have a poster who uses a gmail account to post and he is not getting a copy of the posting? Any suggestions in trying to resolve this would be greatly appreciated. That's a known problem with gmail. There's something about this in the FAQ Wiki, but I don't remember exactly where. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6588query=mailing+list+topic=0type=f is the google help response. (yes, it *is* in my bookmarks) -- ``There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the other is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies.'' (C. Hoare) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Poster not Receiving Postings
Brian Canty wrote: poster who uses a gmail account to post and he is not getting a copy of the posting? Any suggestions in trying to resolve this would be greatly appreciated. Ask your gmail users to look in their Sent Mail or All Mail for the message. gmail is 'helping' your users by automatically filing the message they just sent. That's a known problem with gmail. There's something about this in the FAQ Wiki, but I don't remember exactly where. http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/I+use+Gmail-Googlemail%2C+but+I+can%27t+tell+if+any+of+my+messages+have+been+posted+to+the+list HTH - Tim -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] mailman web interface not answered
Dear all, I installed mailman 2.1.9-7 on a web server , but a few months after installing the web interface is not responding to mouse click. Is there a script (python or perl) to manipulate the list of messages per list (release or remove) ? - Richardson Lima [ HACHID ] - -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Poster not Receiving Postings
That's a known problem with gmail. Some of us appreciate the feature of non-duplication based on Message-Id. -- Fil -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] weird archive thread view
hi. a user of one of my mailinglists noted that the thread-view of my mailing-list archives has become weird in the last months: basically new threads are sometimes subthreads of unrelated threads. while there is always the chance, that users will just hijack a thread, i am pretty sure that this did not happen in various other cases (i looked at the headers of the mails coming in through the list, and they did not refer to any other mails) an example thread-page would be: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-03/thread.html (at the end of the page between [PD] Simultaneous Computation and [PD] change samplerate locally, the archive started 5 new threads, but there really are 9 threads) any ideas where this comes from? and, btw, is there a reason why the max thread-depth seems to be 4? i have recently upgraded from Mailman-2.1.9 to 2.1.11, but the problem exists (at least) with mails generated with 2.1.9. and all this is on debian. fmgar IOhannes -- IEM - network operation center mailto:n...@iem.at -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't show received mail on Mailman Archives
Daniel.Li wrote: I'm using Postfix Mail Server 2.5.1 now. I use webmin to check mailman account, and found that all mails, I have sent before, are in the mailbox, which was NOT piped to Mailman. You need aliases for your MTA of the form LIST: |/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman post LIST LIST-bounces: |/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman bounces LIST etc. for each list. With Postfix, see http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node13.html for information on setting this up for automatic generation of aliases. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman web interface not answered
Richardson Lima wrote: I installed mailman 2.1.9-7 on a web server , but a few months after installing the web interface is not responding to mouse click. Is there a script (python or perl) to manipulate the list of messages per list (release or remove) ? Mailman's bin/discard script can be used to delete held messages. There is no corresponding script to accept them. If you set admin_immed_notify to Yes, the admin will receive email notification of each held message and can accept or discard them by email. I suggest the most practical thing for you to do is fix the issue with your browser/web server. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] mmarch mbox-splitting weird...
hi. i recently upgraded my mailing list server from debian etch to lenny, which included an upgrade from mailman 2.1.9 to 2.1.11; due to some local hackery this somewhat broke my mailing list archives (the hackery only makes monthly archives available as e.g. 2009-03 rather than 2009-March or 2009-Maerz or whatever). i fixed my hacks, but in order to get the archives right i ran mmarch --wipe ..., and found myself suprised that this did not produce the desired results: the new archives seemed to contain some more emails than the original ones, all of them having No subject and appearing in the current archive directory. it turned out that these new emails where parts of old emails. the problem seems to be within the parsing of the mbox file: at some (to me) arbitrary points, Mailbox.py would decide that the mail has finished and start a new one; since the new one had no proper header, it ended up as No subject (and no author information). i did not get any error messages during building of the archives. (else i would have thought of out-of-memory problems or similar) i noticed that this bug (or whatever it is) might have been available for quite some time: after some searching of my original archives, i fould at least one similar case when i rebuild the entire archive in 2006-03 (where part of an email from 2003 (or so) ended up in my 2006-03 folder with No subject) any ideas? my archives are rather big by now (i think); e.g. one list has about 68000 emails archived; rebuilding the archives with the renumbering as found above somehow breaks the entire archive; fixing it manually is no real option :-( fgmasdr IOhannes -- IEM - network operation center mailto:n...@iem.at -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Poster not Receiving Postings
-- That's a known problem with gmail. -- -- Some of us appreciate the feature of non-duplication based on Message-Id. And many of us do not. At the very least, it should be a gmail behavior that is configurable by each user account. Not a mother knows what's best global behavior. Beau -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] weird archive thread view
IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) wrote: a user of one of my mailinglists noted that the thread-view of my mailing-list archives has become weird in the last months: basically new threads are sometimes subthreads of unrelated threads. while there is always the chance, that users will just hijack a thread, i am pretty sure that this did not happen in various other cases (i looked at the headers of the mails coming in through the list, and they did not refer to any other mails) Look at the messages in archives/private/pd-list.mbox/pd-list.mbox. The archives are threaded by message-id in References: and/or In-Reply-To: If messages are threaded without one of those headers referencing a prior message in the thread, then there is a problem with pipermail, but if the header is there, it is a problem with the user or the user's MUA. and, btw, is there a reason why the max thread-depth seems to be 4? It's only the display depth that's limited to 4 to keep the page from growing too wide. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] mmarch mbox-splitting weird...
IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) wrote: i fixed my hacks, but in order to get the archives right i ran mmarch --wipe ..., and found myself suprised that this did not produce the desired results: the new archives seemed to contain some more emails than the original ones, all of them having No subject and appearing in the current archive directory. it turned out that these new emails where parts of old emails. the problem seems to be within the parsing of the mbox file: at some (to me) arbitrary points, Mailbox.py would decide that the mail has finished and start a new one; since the new one had no proper header, it ended up as No subject (and no author information). This is a well known issue. If a message body contains a line beginning with From , bin/arch takes that as a message separator. Very old Mailman didn't escape the From lines in the body. You need to first clean your .mbox files with Mailman's bin/cleanarch or some other process to escape the From lines that aren't message separators. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] mmarch mbox-splitting weird...
IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) writes: i noticed that this bug (or whatever it is) might have been available for quite some time: after some searching of my original archives, Most likely all the new messages start with the word From. It turns out that the only portable way to parse Unix mailboxes into messages is to treat an empty line followed by a line starting with the word From as a message separator. For that reason, most Unix mailers stuff that word whenever encountered in the body by prefixing it with . If your mail system doesn't do that, you get the effect you've seen. I believe that there's an option to mmarch to fix up this problem (or maybe a separate utlity). -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.12 - Python 2.4.[456] incompatibility
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is an internal inconsistency in the 3.0.2 email package that shipped with Python 2.4.4 through 2.4.6. This has to do with the Charset.Charset() constructor setting input_charset to a unicode which then causes TypeError: decoding Unicode is not supported exceptions in other parts of the email package. This problem does not seem to occur with email 3.0.1 and Python 2.4.[123]. This (along with other stuff) is discussed in the bug report at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/328353 and there is a patch for email/Charset.py at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23670138/Charset.py.patch At this point, the best advice seems to be use Python 2.5 or 2.6 with Mailman 2.1.12. - -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFJvpFfVVuXXpU7hpMRAt1PAKDJ6BY84Fx271paX1m4BrtUikMFvQCePbyg 8xyRMCTeV2GB5v0ZZhjCf7E= =ji8z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] weird archive thread view
Mark Sapiro wrote: IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) wrote: a user of one of my mailinglists noted that the thread-view of my mailing-list archives has become weird in the last months: basically new threads are sometimes subthreads of unrelated threads. while there is always the chance, that users will just hijack a thread, i am pretty sure that this did not happen in various other cases (i looked at the headers of the mails coming in through the list, and they did not refer to any other mails) Look at the messages in archives/private/pd-list.mbox/pd-list.mbox. The archives are threaded by message-id in References: and/or In-Reply-To: If messages are threaded without one of those headers referencing a prior message in the thread, then there is a problem with pipermail, but if the header is there, it is a problem with the user or the user's MUA. I wasn't sure, but I see that the References: and In-Reply-To: headers are kept in the periodic .txt files so I looked at http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-03.txt and I see that as you say, there are messages that don't have any References: or In-Reply-To: header that are still threaded with other messages. However, I have not seen this elsewhere with 2.1.9 or 2.1.11. Do you suppose it could be related to your date hack? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Feature request
I would love to see some way of putting someone on moderation when I add or invite them via Mass Subscriptions (which for me is normally one at a time anyway). Elsewise, I have to stay on top of their subscription notification and get to the Membership List page before they have a chance to post. - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 mwe...@redwoodalliance.org www.redwoodalliance.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 04:20:39PM -0700, Michael Welch wrote: I would love to see some way of putting someone on moderation when I add or invite them via Mass Subscriptions (which for me is normally one at a time anyway). have you used the default_member_moderation (privacy/sender) setting? -- ``Bernard: It's another of those irregular verbs. I hold confidential briefings, you leak, he's been charged under section 2A of the Official Secrets Act. '' -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
Hi Adam. Ahh, a workaround. Change the default setting, add the member, then change it back. Unfortunately, one has to wait until after the new member has confirmed before changing the default moderation settng back. Need to tie a string around my finger. Adam McGreggor wrote at 04:33 PM 3/16/2009: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 04:20:39PM -0700, Michael Welch wrote: I would love to see some way of putting someone on moderation when I add or invite them via Mass Subscriptions (which for me is normally one at a time anyway). have you used the default_member_moderation (privacy/sender) setting? - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 mwe...@redwoodalliance.org www.redwoodalliance.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
Michael Welch wrote: Ahh, a workaround. Change the default setting, add the member, then change it back. Unfortunately, one has to wait until after the new member has confirmed before changing the default moderation settng back. I don't get it. Why would you want to moderate new members you invite and not moderate new members who subscribe themselves? If anything, this seems just backwards. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
Mark Sapiro wrote at 05:27 PM 3/16/2009: Michael Welch wrote: Ahh, a workaround. Change the default setting, add the member, then change it back. Unfortunately, one has to wait until after the new member has confirmed before changing the default moderation settng back. I don't get it. Why would you want to moderate new members you invite and not moderate new members who subscribe themselves? If anything, this seems just backwards. Fair enough question. One actual and one theoretical answer. The actual case that just occurred was that a known off-topic poster from another related list wants to join the list in question. The list in question has no public component, so subscription requests beyond personal invitation are rare. Further, sometimes I can just tell from an email address or a stated reason for wanting to join that the person might be a spammer. On a Yahoo Group I manage, approximately 10-15% of the signups fit the categories of potential spammers or likely off-topic posters. Lyris has a great feature that puts new members on moderation until they have had x number of unrejected posts. I really like that idea. - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 mwe...@redwoodalliance.org www.redwoodalliance.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
Michael Welch wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote at 05:27 PM 3/16/2009: Michael Welch wrote: Ahh, a workaround. Change the default setting, add the member, then change it back. Unfortunately, one has to wait until after the new member has confirmed before changing the default moderation settng back. I don't get it. Why would you want to moderate new members you invite and not moderate new members who subscribe themselves? If anything, this seems just backwards. Fair enough question. One actual and one theoretical answer. The actual case that just occurred was that a known off-topic poster from another related list wants to join the list in question. The list in question has no public component, so subscription requests beyond personal invitation are rare. So what you really want is in some (unusual) cases but not all (normal cases) to be able to send an invitation that when accepted will result in a moderated member. As far as a direct add is concerned, the easiest is add the member and then set her moderated from the membership list. I don't know if adding a 'moderate' flag to invitations is really of general interest. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
Hi Everyone, For what it is worth... I'd like to be able to have all the options that are available in the user management screen available in the bulk subscription screen. I operate a list which is closed to anyone except by personal invite, so pretty much use the bulk subscribe option for all of my subscriptions. A large number of my subscribers come are older in age, and typically are quite timid to do anything more than send and receive emails. The result is that they generally email me to advise of changes to their subscriptions + email addresses of others who want to join the list - it would be far easier to both add the new user and configure all from the bulk subscription page. Personally, I'd also like to move away from calling this option bulk subscriptions - adding subscribers one-at-a-time is not bulk!!! Regards, James. Michael Welch wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote at 05:27 PM 3/16/2009: Michael Welch wrote: Ahh, a workaround. Change the default setting, add the member, then change it back. Unfortunately, one has to wait until after the new member has confirmed before changing the default moderation settng back. I don't get it. Why would you want to moderate new members you invite and not moderate new members who subscribe themselves? If anything, this seems just backwards. Fair enough question. One actual and one theoretical answer. The actual case that just occurred was that a known off-topic poster from another related list wants to join the list in question. The list in question has no public component, so subscription requests beyond personal invitation are rare. So what you really want is in some (unusual) cases but not all (normal cases) to be able to send an invitation that when accepted will result in a moderated member. As far as a direct add is concerned, the easiest is add the member and then set her moderated from the membership list. I don't know if adding a 'moderate' flag to invitations is really of general interest. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/james%40thereidsonline.com Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
Mark Sapiro wrote at 05:57 PM 3/16/2009: I don't know if adding a 'moderate' flag to invitations is really of general interest. Hi Mark. I am not sure either, but I know that I have wished for it more than once. I know that Mailman cannot be everything to everyone. I think that more universal would be the feature of new subscribers being put on moderation with a set number of approved posts until moderation is automatically removed. - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 mwe...@redwoodalliance.org www.redwoodalliance.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
