Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail No

[Grant Taylor]

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> If the MTA were down, you'd get "connection refused".  If it were 
> broken, the post would just disappear, to be found in the MTA's 
> queue.

After sending some emails back and forth with the OP, including some
from the Linux / Mailman host in question, I believe the problem to be a
mis-configuration with the OP's MTA.

It appears (according to headers) as if the OP is using fetchmail to
pull messages out of a POP3 mail box on the GroupWise system and then
injecting them via SMTP to the Linux / Mailman host.  Postfix is then
performing some expansion and messing up the delivery (hence the
bounce(s) that I have received) and bouncing messages.

As such I can be sure that Postfix is running on the Linux / Mailman
host and that it knows how to send messages out to the world.

I can also be sure that based on the contents of the DSN

(expanded from )

That something, likely Postfix, is not configured properly on the Linux
/ Maiman host.

> Start by checking for a network problem.  Is the host plugged in to 
> the network?  Is its IP address the one that DNS assigns to hearye? 
>  Is that interface "up"?  Is there a route from the GroupWise host to 
> the Linux host?  Is it correct?  What about firewalls?  Many 
> organizations have firewalls that filter port 25 to all but a few 
> registered MXes.

There may or may not be a firewall between the Linux / Mailman host, but
seeing as how the OP is using fetchmail to retrieve messages from
GroupWise, it does not really matter if the world can reach the Linux /
Mailman host in question or not.

Though, for email to function, there really does need to be an email
server that is willing to accept email for the addresses that the Linux
/ Mailman host is sending out as.  In this case, GroupWise is doing just
fine.

> BTW, this is not the place to get additional help until you have 
> confirmed that Mailman is visible to the world outside of the Linux 
> host.  For general network problems and Linux advice, I strongly 
> recommend getting in touch with your local Linux Users Group (or Unix 
> or *BSD Users Group).  LUG members are by and large happy to provide 
> concrete advice, and (if your organization permits) even free 
> hands-on diagnosis at off hours (well, not quite free, usual fee is 
> pizza and beer ;-).

Agreed.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new server.

[Mark Sapiro]

Harold Pritchett wrote:
>
>This is strange.  Setting VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW works.  Running fix_url
>doesn't.  Here's the output of withlist -l -r fix_url test-l -v
>
>> [r...@calserv bin]# ./withlist -l -r fix_url test-l -v
>> Importing fix_url...
>> Running fix_url.fix_url()...
>> Loading list test-l (locked)
>> Setting web_page_url to: http://calserv.calconnect.org/mailman/
>> Setting host_name to: calserv.calconnect.org
>> Saving list
>> Finalizing
>> [r...@calserv bin]# 
>
>and it still doesn't show up in the web list of lists...



It will if you go to http://calserv.calconnect.org/mailman/listinfo

>Here's the active part of my mm_cfg.py:
>
>> # Default to using the FQDN of machine mailman is running on.
>> # If this is not correct for your installation delete the following 5
>> # lines that acquire the FQDN and manually edit the hosts instead.
>> 
>> DEFAULT_URL_HOST   = 'xxx.yyy.org'
>> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'xxx.yyy.org'
>> 
>> # Because we've overriden the virtual hosts above add_virtualhost
>> # MUST be called after they have been defined.
>> 
>> VIRTUAL_HOSTS = {}


No No No !!!

VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()

Otherwise what happens is mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOSTS becomes this new, empty
dictionary, but


>> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)


add_virtualhost() which was defined in Defaults.py adds to
Defaults.VIRTUAL_HOST and that is no longer the same as
mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOSTS.


>The linux "hostname" command returns the same name (xxx.yyy.org)
>
>Is there some way to actually display the names that mailman thinks
>are the host names and to dump the internal names within the lists?


bin/withlist LISTNAME
...
...
>>> from Mailman import mm_cfg
>>> mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOSTS
(display of dictionary)
>>> m.web_page_url
(display of list's web_page_url attribute)
>>> control-D to quit


>Could this be a problem with SELINUX??
>
>Harold
>

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[Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail No

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Tim Ferguson writes:

 > This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a
 > post to the list.

 > The message that you sent has been delayed.
 > 
 > The reason given for the delay:
 > 450 Host down (hearye.ccs135.com)

This looks highly unlikely to be a Mailman problem, nor an MTA
problem.  If Mailman were broken, the post would bounce back ("no such
mailbox" or the like) or just disappear (and you would eventually find
it in Mailman's queue).

If the MTA were down, you'd get "connection refused".  If it were
broken, the post would just disappear, to be found in the MTA's queue.

Start by checking for a network problem.  Is the host plugged in to
the network?  Is its IP address the one that DNS assigns to hearye?
Is that interface "up"?  Is there a route from the GroupWise host to
the Linux host?  Is it correct?  What about firewalls?  Many
organizations have firewalls that filter port 25 to all but a few
registered MXes.

BTW, this is not the place to get additional help until you have
confirmed that Mailman is visible to the world outside of the Linux
host.  For general network problems and Linux advice, I strongly
recommend getting in touch with your local Linux Users Group (or Unix
or *BSD Users Group).  LUG members are by and large happy to provide
concrete advice, and (if your organization permits) even free hands-on
diagnosis at off hours (well, not quite free, usual fee is pizza and
beer ;-).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail No

[Grant Taylor]

Tim Ferguson wrote:
> This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a post 
> to the list.

I don't know if you have a firewall in between the Hearye and the world
or not, but form the internets (and I believe GWIA's) perspective Hearye
is not listing to port 25 on it's 209.174.197.37 IP.

Please make sure that Postfix is configured to bind to port 25 on
209.174.197.37.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail No

[Mark Sapiro]

Tim Ferguson wrote:
>
>This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a post to the 
>list. 
>
>Tim
>
>
>Tim Ferguson
>Director of Technology
>Centralia City Schools
>Centralia, Illinois 62801
>618-532-1907, Ext. 1030
>
>
>
>
 On 3/18/2009 at  9:14 PM, CCS135_D.GWIA.GATEWAY wrote:
>
>
>
>The message that you sent has been delayed.
>
>The reason given for the delay:
>450 Host down (hearye.ccs135.com)


There is nothing listening on port 25 at hearye.ccs135.com. Do you have
an MTA running on that machine? Is it configured to listen on port 25?

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[Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail No

[Tim Ferguson]

This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a post to the 
list. 

Tim


Tim Ferguson
Director of Technology
Centralia City Schools
Centralia, Illinois 62801
618-532-1907, Ext. 1030




>>> On 3/18/2009 at  9:14 PM, CCS135_D.GWIA.GATEWAY wrote:



The message that you sent has been delayed.

The reason given for the delay:
450 Host down (hearye.ccs135.com)

Information about your message:
Subject: Special Announcement
GroupWise Message Id: 49C1AA79.72D:189:6866
Message log tag: 1135103
Number of send attempts: 1
Time of initial send attempt: 03-18-09 21:14:37
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Searchable Archive

[Mark Sapiro]

RCB I.T. Solutions Webmaster wrote:

>What would be the best way to create a searchable archive of all messages on
>my server?  Is there a script that works with mailman that does this that
>you could recommend? My users will need to search the archive occasionally
>and view the mail contents and download any attached files that mailman lets
>though.


Most everything we know is in the FAQ at .

Personally, I use ht://Dig in conjunction with Richard Barrett's
patches to put a search form on the archive Table of Contents and
integrate with ht://Dig.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new server.

[Mark Sapiro]

Harold Pritchett wrote:
>
>Thanks...  An even shorter answer is VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off
>
>I'm not using virtual hosts.


But you still need to run fix_url because otherwise you will be
exposing URLs with the old host name, and if your Mailman version is
pre 2.1.12 (the first version in which relative web page URLs actually
worked), all the links on the web interface and the POST actions will
still point to the old host.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Self-Approval against From Forgeries

[Adam McGreggor]

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 07:15:58PM -0500, Grant Taylor wrote:
> Ephraim Silverberg wrote:
> > Certain lists of ours are sensitive and, hence, the members of the 
> > list want to ensure that messages are not sent to the list by an 
> > outsider that forges the From line of a valid list member.
> 
> Ok...
> 
> Question:  Why not look in to implementing (and requesting that members
> do too or provide an alternate email for this purpose) something like
> SPF and / or Domain Keys.  If you run either or both filters and your
> subscribers publish records, it will be very difficult for messages to
> be spoofed.

Or, perhaps, just use gpg/pgp.

(I'm not a fan of SPF)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Self-Approval against From Forgeries

[Mark Sapiro]

Grant Taylor wrote:

>Ephraim Silverberg wrote:
>
>> How can I implement such a self-approval mechanism in Mailman 2.1.11?
>
>I don't believe there is any thing like that in Mailman.  The closest
>thing that comes to mind would be some sort of moderation that requires
>approval and having the moderator email address by dynamic to the
>purported sender of the message(s) in question.


Actually, Mailman is pretty close already. If you moderate everyone and
set respond_to_post_requests to yes, each post will be held and the
user will get an email with a confirmation token. The thing that's
lacking is this confirmation only allows the user to cancel the post
or continue to wait for moderator approval, but you could modify the
confirmation process to allow the user to approve the post if the
reason it is held is moderation.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] LDAP and case-sensitive memberlist

[Mark Sapiro]

- Original Message ---

Subject: [Mailman-Users] LDAP and case-sensitive memberlist
   From: "Chris Nulk" 
   Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:22:59 -0700
 To: 

>Hello all,
>
>I have recently set up Mailman v2.1.19 and added the LDAPMemberAdaptor I 
>picked up from
>
>>> See
>>> .
>>> 
>
>I did check the FAQ and search the list for the LDAP stuff.  I configured it 
>as per the docs and it works fine.  When I look at the member list (via 
>Mailman's web interface), all the email addresses are there with proper 
>capitalization (it is how it is defined in our LDAP and I CANNOT change the 
>LDAP entries).
>
>The problem is when anyone sends to the list, their posts are held for 
>moderation because they are not a member of the list.  I have looked at the 
>detailed message source on the moderator's page to view the message source.  
>It shows the sender's email address with the correct capitalization.  However, 
>Mailman appears to be comparing a lowercase version of the sender's email 
>address to the properly capitalized member list derived from the 
>LDAPMemberAdapter.
>
>Is there a way to force the comparison to be case-insensitive?  Or, modify the 
>LDAPMemberAdaptor to lowercase all the email addresses?


This particular member adaptor assumes all email addresses in the LDAP
database are lower case. Mailman itself has the concept of a "case
preserved email" (CPE) and a "lower case email" (LCE) It uses the LCE
as the key to look up a CPE or to verify if an LCE is a member. The
member adaptor you are using doesn't distinguish between LCE and CPE
and it only works if the email addresses in the LDAP database are
lower case.

In order to fix it, you would first need to have a way of finding the
correct record in the LDAP database given only the LCE as a key. Since
the member adaptor seems (via its __ldap_load_members() method) to
keep all the list member emails in memory anyway, you could augment
that method to build another dictionary with LCE as key and CPE as
data and use that.

Then you would need to modify the member adaptor to do what it's
supposed to do. It seems to preserve the doc strings which define what
the methods should do. You'd just need to make them do that.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Self-Approval against From Forgeries

[Grant Taylor]

Ephraim Silverberg wrote:
> Certain lists of ours are sensitive and, hence, the members of the 
> list want to ensure that messages are not sent to the list by an 
> outsider that forges the From line of a valid list member.

Ok...

Question:  Why not look in to implementing (and requesting that members
do too or provide an alternate email for this purpose) something like
SPF and / or Domain Keys.  If you run either or both filters and your
subscribers publish records, it will be very difficult for messages to
be spoofed.

> In our previous listserver, there was a "self-approval" mechanism for 
> such lists -- i.e. when a message arrive purportedly from list member 
> X, the message would be held and a confirmation request would be sent 
> back to the address of X requesting that he reply to the confirmation 
> message if he indeed was the author of the original message.  Only 
> after the confirmation-reply was received, the original message was 
> sent off to the entire list.

Interesting concept.  It sounds a bit like challenge / response that
never remembers beyond the message in question.

> How can I implement such a self-approval mechanism in Mailman 2.1.11?

I don't believe there is any thing like that in Mailman.  The closest
thing that comes to mind would be some sort of moderation that requires
approval and having the moderator email address by dynamic to the
purported sender of the message(s) in question.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Support for Attachments?

[Mark Sapiro]

RCB I.T. Solutions Webmaster wrote:

>We are looking into using Mailman to manage out mailing list but one key
>necessity is the mailing list must support attachments, and we should be
>able to restrict attachments so only certain types of files can be sent
>though the mailing list.  Is Mailman capable of this? 


Yes.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new server.

[Mark Sapiro]

Harold Pritchett wrote:
>
>My problem:
>
>The web interface only shows the one list I manually created on this server.
>Nothing else.


See FAQ 4.62 at  and also FAQ 4.29 which
is linked from it for the background.

The short answer is run fix_url.

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[Mailman-Users] Searchable Archive

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What would be the best way to create a searchable archive of all messages on
my server?  Is there a script that works with mailman that does this that
you could recommend? My users will need to search the archive occasionally
and view the mail contents and download any attached files that mailman lets
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Support for Attachments?

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We are looking into using Mailman to manage out mailing list but one key
necessity is the mailing list must support attachments, and we should be
able to restrict attachments so only certain types of files can be sent
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[Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new server.

[Harold Pritchett]

I have read everything I can find about moving mailman lists to a new server.
It all seems so simple...

My case SHOULD be even simpler.

I'm moving from a Fedora 8 linux server to a Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, both
are the 64 bit versions.  Fedora system is an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core
Processor 4600+.  The RHEL system is an Intel(R) Xeon(R) QUAD CPU E5405 @ 
2.00GHz

After this, it gets pretty similar.  Both installs are the standard RPM 
installs.
In both cases, mailman directory is /usr/lib/mailman.  Data directory is
/opt/mailman.  This is a symbolic link from /var/lib/mailman.

[r...@lists /]# ls -Fla /var/lib/mailman
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Feb 23  2008 /var/lib/mailman -> /opt/mailman/

I created a new mailman list on the new server.  I then tarred up the entire
/opt/mailman tree on the old server and restored it on the new server.

On the new server:
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_lists now shows ALL 31 of the lists.
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members listname will show the subscribers to any of
the 31 lists.  I can run the command "mail test-l" and the mail is sent to the
test-l list on this server.

My problem:

The web interface only shows the one list I manually created on this server.
Nothing else.

Any ideas???

Help!!!

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[Mailman-Users] Self-Approval against From Forgeries

[Ephraim Silverberg]

[ Apologies if this has been discussed before -- I couldn't find any mention ]
[ of it in the FAQ.  ]

Certain lists of ours are sensitive and, hence, the members of the list
want to ensure that messages are not sent to the list by an outsider
that forges the From line of a valid list member.

In our previous listserver, there was a "self-approval" mechanism for
such lists -- i.e. when a message arrive purportedly from list member X,
the message would be held and a confirmation request would be sent back
to the address of X requesting that he reply to the confirmation message
if he indeed was the author of the original message.  Only after the
confirmation-reply was received, the original message was sent off to
the entire list.

How can I implement such a self-approval mechanism in Mailman 2.1.11?
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[Mailman-Users] LDAP and case-sensitive memberlist

[Chris Nulk]

Hello all,

I have recently set up Mailman v2.1.19 and added the LDAPMemberAdaptor I picked 
up from

>> See
>> .
>> 

I did check the FAQ and search the list for the LDAP stuff.  I configured it as 
per the docs and it works fine.  When I look at the member list (via Mailman's 
web interface), all the email addresses are there with proper capitalization 
(it is how it is defined in our LDAP and I CANNOT change the LDAP entries).

The problem is when anyone sends to the list, their posts are held for 
moderation because they are not a member of the list.  I have looked at the 
detailed message source on the moderator's page to view the message source.  It 
shows the sender's email address with the correct capitalization.  However, 
Mailman appears to be comparing a lowercase version of the sender's email 
address to the properly capitalized member list derived from the 
LDAPMemberAdapter.

Is there a way to force the comparison to be case-insensitive?  Or, modify the 
LDAPMemberAdaptor to lowercase all the email addresses?

Or, should I subscribe to the Mailman Developers list and repost there?

Thank you for your consideration,

Chris


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Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ issues - was: How to change the text at the bottom of sentmails

[Brad Knowles]

Mark Sapiro wrote:


Hendrik Maryns wrote:

For a starters, the bottom of the Digest has

Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

Which redirects to

http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Frequently+Asked+Questions



The msg_footer has the current, short URL 

Brad - can you check and fix the digest_footer on the mailman lists.


Fixed.  Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming mail No

[Grant Taylor]

On 03/18/09 13:24, Tim Ferguson wrote:
When I attempt to send a post to mailman, my GroupWise (8) GWIA sends 
me an e-mail that completion of the e-mail has been delayed because 
the  server (Linux) is down, which it isn't.  This message repeats 
about every fifteen minutes or so.


Hum.  This makes me believe that GWIA is not able to route email to the 
MTA, Postfix (guessing based on previous post), running on the Linux host.


What (sub)domain are you using for your Mailman mailing lists?  I.e. are 
your mailing lists part of your ccs135.com domain as in 
mailing_l...@ccs135.com or are they part of a sub-domain as in 
mailing_l...@sub_domain.ccs135.com?


If you are using a sub-domain, do you have GWIA configured to route said 
sub domain to your Linux host?


Since I've not worked with a Linux mail server before, what is the 
procedure, what software do I need, to send and receive e-mail using 
the Linux server as a regular user just to make sure mail is coming 
and going or to see where it might be hanging up?  For install, will 
Thunderbird work, and, if so, how does it need to be configured?  I 
realize this is very elementary, but it isn't cooperating like 
Novell's GroupWise or Microsoft's Exchange server.


To start with, make sure that root on the Linux host can send it's self 
mail.  I typically do something like


   'ls' | mail -s "Testing..." root

Note the single quotes around ls to turn off all formatting that may 
mess with the email.


If that does work, try the same type of thing but sending the email to 
an address on the box with the full domain name on it.  I.e.


   'ls' | mail -s "Testing..." r...@example.net

If that works, try sending the email to somewhere non local to the system.

These all check "sending" of email, thus testing to make sure that your 
MTA is installed, functional, and running.  If the above tests pass, 
then your problem likely is with routing email back in to the system.


If you can, please give more details about your install as they will 
help in further diagnosing what is going on.




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[Mailman-Users] Incoming mail No

[Tim Ferguson]

I've been tied up with other things and not been able to work on it, but I 
still can't use Mailman to send out posts because inbound traffic doesn't make 
it back to mailman.   Thus, users register but their verification doesn't get 
"verified", etc. 

When I attempt to send a post to mailman, my GroupWise (8) GWIA sends me an 
e-mail that completion of the e-mail has been delayed because the  server 
(Linux) is down, which it isn't.  This message repeats about every fifteen 
minutes or so. 

Since I've not worked with a Linux mail server before, what is the procedure, 
what software do I need, to send and receive e-mail using the Linux server as a 
regular user just to make sure mail is coming and going or to see where it 
might be hanging up?  For install, will Thunderbird work, and, if so, how does 
it need to be configured?  I realize this is very elementary, but it isn't 
cooperating like Novell's GroupWise or Microsoft's Exchange server. 

Thank you! 

Tim 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ issues - was: How to change the text at the bottom of sentmails

[Mark Sapiro]

Hendrik Maryns wrote:
>
>For a starters, the bottom of the Digest has
>
>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
>
>Which redirects to
>
>http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Frequently+Asked+Questions


The msg_footer has the current, short URL 

Brad - can you check and fix the digest_footer on the mailman lists.


>Then, I've seen that this latter site has expanded over the last days,
>which is of course great.
>
>But I think the layout is quite confusing, with that Labels thing coming
>on top.  That should be at the bottom.


Unfortunately, I think this is a Confluence thing over which we have no
control.


>Also, it says "They're organized
>into several sections: click on each section to view the questions for
>that section, or use the "View in Hierarchy" link to see them all listed
>in a tree." which is simply not true.


What's not true? It works for me.


>And I had expected more and more specific questions.


As Brad has already noted, it's a community driven wiki. We try to get
common questions answered there, but I'm sure there are gaps. You can
help. If you ask a question on this list that you think is a FAQ that
isn't in the wiki, when you get the answer, add it to the wiki.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Greetings and Question

[Mark Sapiro]

Brad Knowles wrote:

>Fil wrote:
>
>>> Longer answer: mailto:-requ...@domain.tld who 
>> 
>> Apparently this doesn't work with the site password


This is intentional to discourage sending the plain text site password
in an email.


>And it doesn't show anyone who has had their subscription hidden.


As of 2.1.10, if authentication is with the list admin or moderator
password, hidden members are shown. The same is true for the web
roster.

The following are the help messages for who depending on whether the
roster is public, members only or admin only.


PUBLICHELP = _("""
who
See the non-hidden members of this mailing list.
who password
See everyone who is on this mailing list. The password is the
list's admin or moderator password.
""")

MEMBERSONLYHELP = _("""
who password [address=]
See the non-hidden members of this mailing list.  The roster is
limited to list members only, and you must supply your
membership
password to retrieve it.  If you're posting from an address
other
than your membership address, specify your membership address
with
`address=' (no brackets around the email address, and
no
quotes!). If you provide the list's admin or moderator password,
hidden members will be included.
""")

ADMINONLYHELP = _("""
who password
See everyone who is on this mailing list.  The roster is
limited to
list administrators and moderators only; you must supply the
list
admin or moderator password to retrieve the roster.
""")



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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change the text at the bottom of sent mails

[Brad Knowles]

Hendrik Maryns wrote:


And I had expected more and more specific questions.


What is there today is the result of questions that we have accumulated over 
the years, but obviously we can't put anything into the FAQ if people don't 
ask the questions, and if other people don't take those questions (and their 
answers) and put them in.


If there are any specific questions you can think of that should be there, 
then please feel free to contribute them and provide the appropriate answers.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Greetings and Question

[Brad Knowles]

Brad Knowles wrote:


Longer answer: mailto:-requ...@domain.tld who 


Apparently this doesn't work with the site password


And it doesn't show anyone who has had their subscription hidden.

If you want a complete canonical list, the only way is via the command 
line tool "list_members".


Actually, I take that back.  There are ways to script this from the web 
interface (STFFW -- search the fine FAQ Wiki), but there aren't any other 
native built-in tools that Mailman provides to give you a complete list of 
all subscribers.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Greetings and Question

[Brad Knowles]

Fil wrote:


Longer answer: mailto:-requ...@domain.tld who 


Apparently this doesn't work with the site password


And it doesn't show anyone who has had their subscription hidden.

If you want a complete canonical list, the only way is via the command line 
tool "list_members".


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Greetings and Question

[Fil]

> Longer answer: mailto:-requ...@domain.tld who 

Apparently this doesn't work with the site password


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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change the text at the bottom of sent mails

[Hendrik Maryns]

Op 13-03-09 16:04 heeft Mark Sapiro als volgt van zich laten horen:
> Hendrik Maryns wrote:
>> Btw, the
>> FAQ seems to be messed up.
> 
> 
> Please be more specific about what is wrong with the FAQ so we can fix
> it.

For a starters, the bottom of the Digest has

Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

Which redirects to

http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Frequently+Asked+Questions

Then, I’ve seen that this latter site has expanded over the last days,
which is of course great.

But I think the layout is quite confusing, with that Labels thing coming
on top.  That should be at the bottom.  Also, it says “They're organized
into several sections: click on each section to view the questions for
that section, or use the "View in Hierarchy" link to see them all listed
in a tree.” which is simply not true.

And I had expected more and more specific questions.

Cheers, H.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change the text at the bottom of sent mails

[Hendrik Maryns]

Op 13-03-09 16:04 heeft Mark Sapiro als volgt van zich laten horen:
> Hendrik Maryns wrote:
>> Btw, the
>> FAQ seems to be messed up.
> 
> 
> Please be more specific about what is wrong with the FAQ so we can fix
> it.
> 
> 
>> My question is the following: under the mails I get from my list, I see
>> the following text:
>>
>> Mitarbeiter mailing list
>> mitarbei...@weltladen-tuebingen.de
>> http://mailman.biohostnet.de/mailman/listinfo/mitarbeiter
>>
>> The links are fine, but the first line bothers me: nowhere in the admin
>> area did I find a place to change this, and in German, it is just plain
>> wrong.  Did I overlook something?
> 
> 
> These are on the web admin interface. Non-digest options
> (Non-Digest-Optionen) -> msg_footer for individual messages and Digest
> options (Optionen für Nachrichtensammlungen) -> digest_footer for
> digests.

Thanks, that was it.  The default text is rather cryptic, and therefore
I hadn’t seen.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Greetings and Question

[Ulf Dunkel]

I would like to know if there is a simple way to download the entire list membership showing both each user's name and email address.  


Short answer: yes. ;-)

Longer answer: mailto:-requ...@domain.tld who 

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