[Mailman-Users] Inquiry from Saigon

2009-07-24 Thread Claudio Schuftan
Dear friends,
 I moderate a listserver called phm-exchange using mailman.
Can you give me precise instructions on what to do to change the settings
so my own postings to the list do not have to be moderated (by me...) .
 Cordially,
 Claudio Schuftan MD
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[Mailman-Users] Reply to

2009-07-24 Thread Wayne
I don't understand the whole reply to stuff. I don't want to allow  
users to hit reply and it to reply to the group. I have it set to  
strip the header and the reply to is set to poster.


Please help.

Thanks so much.

Wayne

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to

2009-07-24 Thread Brad Knowles

on 7/23/09 11:10 AM, Wayne said:

I don't understand the whole reply to stuff. I don't want to allow users 
to hit reply and it to reply to the group. I have it set to strip the 
header and the reply to is set to poster.


For the most part, if you leave the header alone, then you will get the 
behaviour you want.  The only time this won't happen is when the sender 
of the message provides a different Reply-to: header on their own 
message.  You could strip those and set reply-to-poster, but that 
shouldn't be necessary in 99.9% of the cases.


The only reason the header exists is for those cases where someone 
running a list *does* want to force everyone to always reply to the 
whole list and not privately reply back to someone.  If you don't try to 
force that behaviour, then you can mostly just not worry about this header.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Password reminder on private archive login page

2009-07-24 Thread liste yoneticisi
Dear Mr Sapiro;

Thank you very much, It worked for English archive interfaces.
But it doesn't work for Turkish Interface.

Altough I made completely the same modifications as English one.
Is there another area to enforce the changes for international files?


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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:20:41 -0700
From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net
To: liste yoneticisi liste...@metu.edu.tr, mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: Password reminder on private archive login page

liste yoneticisi wrote:

But I am trying to understand the commands.
I tried the text in the attachment also but as you warned, it didn't
work.:-(



Yes, It had a few problems :(


---
The final problem is you've inserted your code in the wrong place. You
put it where it is only reached if the user is already authenticated
or provided a valid authentication.
---

Actually if someone reached to the archive (in order to see attachments,
messages for example) he probably had not logged into list archives
page yet. He is asked to enter his e-mail and corresponding password.


My remark above referred to where in the logical flow of the private.py
module you had put your code. It was not about how a user would arrive
at the page.

Since I had planned to look into this for Mailman 2.2 anyway, I have
made a first cut at implementing this feature. The attached
privatepw.patch.txt contains patches to Mailman/Cgi/private.py and
templates/en/private.html to implement this feature. I have tested
them and they seem OK.

You're on your own for the Turkish version of the private.html template.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Password reminder on private archive login page

2009-07-24 Thread liste yoneticisi

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, liste yoneticisi wrote:

Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:11:28 +0300 (WET)
From: liste yoneticisi liste...@metu.edu.tr
To: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Password reminder on private archive login page

Dear Mr Sapiro;

Thank you very much, It worked for English archive interfaces.
But it doesn't work for Turkish Interface.

Altough I made completely the same modifications as English one.
Is there another area to enforce the changes for international files?

Ooops. I made the changes in $PATH/templates/site/tr/private.html
and it worked.
I made the changes /template/tr/private.html

It's mu fault.

Thank you very much for your cooperation.



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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:20:41 -0700
From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net
To: liste yoneticisi liste...@metu.edu.tr, mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: Password reminder on private archive login page

liste yoneticisi wrote:

But I am trying to understand the commands.
I tried the text in the attachment also but as you warned, it didn't
work.:-(



Yes, It had a few problems :(


---
The final problem is you've inserted your code in the wrong place. You
put it where it is only reached if the user is already authenticated
or provided a valid authentication.
---

Actually if someone reached to the archive (in order to see attachments,
messages for example) he probably had not logged into list archives
page yet. He is asked to enter his e-mail and corresponding password.


My remark above referred to where in the logical flow of the private.py
module you had put your code. It was not about how a user would arrive
at the page.

Since I had planned to look into this for Mailman 2.2 anyway, I have
made a first cut at implementing this feature. The attached
privatepw.patch.txt contains patches to Mailman/Cgi/private.py and
templates/en/private.html to implement this feature. I have tested
them and they seem OK.

You're on your own for the Turkish version of the private.html template.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] permission denied error

2009-07-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
LuKreme wrote:

On 23-Jul-2009, at 22:12, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 My 23-Jul-2009, at 16:58 (-0600) post (and this one too) was sent to
 the list only. The post archived at the above link was addressed to
 you and to the list. The copy to you was accepted by your MX
 (mail.covisp.net). Perhaps you are filtering mail from me?

Not specifically, but mail to my list address that is not to a list  
goes into a quarantine that I look at only on rare occasions. I never  
saw the copy sent to the list though. The one directly to me is in the  
quarantine and I pulled it out after seeing your second reply.


If you are an explicit addressee of a list post, you won't get a copy
from the list unless you set your Avoid duplicate copies of
messages? list option to No which would seem to be a good idea in
this case.


Hmm.. I think I might have found the problem, there was a crontab for  
'nobody' that had the various mailman tasks in it. Mailman runs as the  
user mailman, not nobody. See if that eliminates the issue.


I considered asking you about that, but you seemed to say that
commenting the gate_news entry in the mailman user's crontab stopped
the gate_news errors which would imply they were coming from the
mailman user's crontab.

Note also that crond is probably mailing error reports to 'mailman' or
maybe to 'nobody' if it is that crontab. It is good to arrange for
that mail to be deliverable. In some cases that mail is treated as a
post to the 'mailman' list and is then discarded as a non-member post
and never seen. For various reasons, it can be good to have the
mailman list accept non-member posts (and have only one or a few site
admins as members).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Inquiry from Saigon

2009-07-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Claudio Schuftan wrote:

 I moderate a listserver called phm-exchange using mailman.
Can you give me precise instructions on what to do to change the settings
so my own postings to the list do not have to be moderated (by me...) .


If your posts are held for reason Post to moderated list, see the FAQ
at http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9, in particular the section How to
post to the announcement list:

If they are held for some other reason, what is that reason?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to

2009-07-24 Thread Grant Taylor

On 07/23/09 11:10, Wayne wrote:
I don't understand the whole reply to stuff. I don't want to allow 
users to hit reply and it to reply to the group. I have it set to 
strip the header and the reply to is set to poster.


I consider there to be two main types of mailing lists, one of which has 
a couple sub-types.


  1)  Discussion mailing lists where replies are directed back to the 
list its self so that all subscribers are kept in the loop.


  2)  Announcement mailing lists where replies are either directed back to:
A)  Back to the poster, possibly to privately answer a question.

B)  Back to a designated contact address, possibly to a company 
contact point.




Grant. . . .
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