[Mailman-Users] web-interface password..

2009-08-09 Thread Khalil Abbas

Hi, 

 

some of my lists ask for the password once and never ask again whenever I'm 
logged on, and some of them ask twice, once on logon and once when clicking on 
anything else ..most of them actually ask for the password twice then never ask 
again whenever I'm logged on ..

 

why's that ?

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] web-interface password..

2009-08-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Khalil Abbas wrote:

some of my lists ask for the password once and never ask again whenever I'm 
logged on, and some of them ask twice, once on logon and once when clicking on 
anything else ..most of them actually ask for the password twice then never 
ask again whenever I'm logged on ..

 

why's that ?


Because the host name in the URL you initially go to is not the same as
the host name in the links on the page so the inital login cookie is
not returned on the subsequent click because it's for a different host.

See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/mIA9 and other FAQs referenced
therein for more information and how to fix it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Messages

2009-08-09 Thread David Andrews

At 02:08 PM 8/4/2009, Barry Finkel wrote:

David Andrews dandr...@visi.com wrote:

I have a problem, and don't know if there is an easy or viable
solution.  I run a bunch of lists for an organization, over 150
lists, about 80 percent public and 20 percent private.  Periodically
there are messages that need to go to everyone, or almost
everyone.  However, people belong to multiple lists so many people
get duplicate copies of the same message.

Is there any way to send to everyone, or sub-sets of everyone?  Is it
possible to subscribe everybody to an announce-only list, at the same
time they subscribe to their chosen list or lists?  Not sure I want
that approach, but an option if possible.

If I had to do this, I would do the following:

1) Create a new Mailman list - all-subscribers.

2) Make a list of all subscribers to all lists.  I already have
   a shell script (with awk files) that produces a list every hour
   that contains lines:

 Tue Aug  4 13:00:01 CDT 2009
 --
 list1 us...@example.com
 list1 us...@example.com
 --
 list2 us...@example.com
 list2 us...@example.com
 --

   I use this file to see if a given address is subscribed to any
   lists.

3) Extract the e-mail addresses from that list, pipe through uniq,
   and save the file.  You could do special processing to remove
   certain addresses from this file.

4) Use that file to

./sync_members -w=no -g=no -d=no -a=no -f  FILENAME all-subscribers

   to synchronize (silently) the membership of the all-subscribers list,
   which contains all the members of all the lists.



This was the only response I got, and appreciated.  Is this the only 
possible approach?  I am not sure I want to subscribe people to a 
list they didn't subscribe to, although I am considering it.  Any 
other approaches -- or do I have to wait to MM3 which is who knows when.


Dave


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Messages

2009-08-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Andrews wrote:

This was the only response I got, and appreciated.  Is this the only 
possible approach?  I am not sure I want to subscribe people to a 
list they didn't subscribe to, although I am considering it.  Any 
other approaches -- or do I have to wait to MM3 which is who knows when.


You can see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/TIA9, but the approach
there is essentially the same.

The alternative is to use Mailman's regular_exclude_lists feature
(under Non-digest options) as mentioned in the above FAQ, but with
150+ lists (or even merely a dozen), this probably isn't viable.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Messages

2009-08-09 Thread David Andrews

At 03:29 PM 8/9/2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:

David Andrews wrote:

This was the only response I got, and appreciated.  Is this the only
possible approach?  I am not sure I want to subscribe people to a
list they didn't subscribe to, although I am considering it.  Any
other approaches -- or do I have to wait to MM3 which is who knows when.


You can see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/TIA9, but the approach
there is essentially the same.

The alternative is to use Mailman's regular_exclude_lists feature
(under Non-digest options) as mentioned in the above FAQ, but with
150+ lists (or even merely a dozen), this probably isn't viable.



Mark:

The FAQ says:


a better umbrella list as long as you are not concerned about digest members.

Using the above example, create the list Threesomes with no 
members, and in Threesomes' Non-digest options - regular_include_lists put


threeblindm...@mylists.com
threebe...@mylists.com
threemenna...@mylists.com

Then, a post to Threesomes will be sent to the regular (nondigest) 
members of the above three lists without duplication.


Above you say this approach may not be viable for me.  Is this 
because of the work involved in my entering and updating the list of lists
in regular_include_lists , or because of something else I am not 
aware of.  If it would work for me, I am willing to do the work -- I 
am not as technical as some, and wouldn't want to mess around with 
scripts unless I have to.  This approach would also allow me to have 
several versions of the almost-all-subscribers lists, including or 
excluding certain lists.



Thanks for your help as always!

Dave




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[Mailman-Users] address problem

2009-08-09 Thread Jim McKay

I'm using

* Mailman 2.1.9.-4.e15.i386
* Redhat 5.3.03.i386
* sendmail 8.13.8.2.el5,i386

I'm experienced with Mailman with BSD for sometime (a couple of years)  
but the first time with Redhat on a completely different server.


For this example/problem,

my host iswall
Domain is   ss.uic.edu
so I havewall.ss.uic.edu

Sendmail is fine and emails come and go with mail sent and received  
from u...@wall.ss.uic.edu


I've used RPM to install Mailman.

I've created a list  called techies with subscribers on everything  
from in-house to gmail.


When as a subscriber I send email to tech...@wall.ss.uic.edu  the mail  
is  arrives at users inboxes as being from tech...@ss.uic.edu with  
wall left off.


On the Mailman admin page for Techies , under General Options, I  
have Hostname this list prefers for email set to wall.ss.uic.edu and  
it still leaves off wall.


I've been through mm_config.py and sendmail.cf for days and simply  
can't find what's wrong.


I can live with it if I just want to have broadcast lists but I also  
need to have lists where people can reply.


Any suggestions or ideas.  Thank you very much.

Best wishes and many thanks for your consideration.

Jim McKay
Digital Media Specialist
University of Illinois at Chicago College of Architecture and the Arts
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom handler applied to digest tofilter excessive quoted text?

2009-08-09 Thread John Williams
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:40 AM, tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

 By the way John... I'm guessing you sent your post twice becaqsue you
 didn't realize that when posting from your gmail account, you won't see
 your own posts? It considers the message you 'Sent' and  the one the
 list sends as 'duplicates', so hides (or deletes?) the second one (from
 the list). I really hate that about gmail...

No...first one didn't appear when checking online archives. I sent
without being subscribed to the list, intending to check the online
archives for answers. Waited a day, decided it had been silently
discarded, then joined list and sent again. Then both showed up, of
course. :)

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[Mailman-Users] List Question - who can send to the list

2009-08-09 Thread Magann Orth
Is there a way to make the list only allow people who are on the list to
send to the list?
Also, how do you change the default reply to the list moderator?

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[Mailman-Users] Configure mailman inside a VPS

2009-08-09 Thread Massimiliano vagamente
Hi all...

Setting up mailman/postfix inside my ubuntu 8.10 server VPS, i think i
messed up all the config files trying to make it work.

Now i think i've messed'em up too much...

Here they are, if some of you could take a look:
. /etc/apache2/sites-available/mailman.conf : http://pastebin.com/f299879f1
. /etc/postfix/main.cf : http://pastebin.com/f65f9432f
. /etc/postfix/master.cf : http://pastebin.com/f56b257d7

I must say that VPS doesn't work as mailserver 'cause the mailboxes
are directly managed by the web-hoster.

Thank all of you for your great work

Massimiliano
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[Mailman-Users] Trouble with some messages being scrubbed

2009-08-09 Thread Scott Race
I am getting the following message in some of our posts, no content, just:

Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-- next part 
--
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: image/gif
Size: 1994 bytes
Desc: image003.gif
There's a link to the attachment, image003.gif, which pulls up ok, but, no 
content is being delivered.

The list settings have filter_content set to No.

I read in another post that scrub_nondigest might be set to Yes, but I can't 
find the setting for that.  How would i find it, or where is the config file 
that holds this setting?   I looked and greped, couldn't find

Mailman 2.1.5.

Thanks!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] address problem

2009-08-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jim McKay wrote:

I'm using

* Mailman 2.1.9.-4.e15.i386
* Redhat 5.3.03.i386
* sendmail 8.13.8.2.el5,i386

I'm experienced with Mailman with BSD for sometime (a couple of years)  
but the first time with Redhat on a completely different server.

For this example/problem,

my host iswall
Domain is   ss.uic.edu
so I havewall.ss.uic.edu

Sendmail is fine and emails come and go with mail sent and received  
from u...@wall.ss.uic.edu

I've used RPM to install Mailman.

I've created a list  called techies with subscribers on everything  
from in-house to gmail.

When as a subscriber I send email to tech...@wall.ss.uic.edu  the mail  
is  arrives at users inboxes as being from tech...@ss.uic.edu with  
wall left off.

On the Mailman admin page for Techies , under General Options, I  
have Hostname this list prefers for email set to wall.ss.uic.edu and  
it still leaves off wall.


If host_name is wall.ss.uic.edu, then that is what Mailman is using in
outbound mail and it is an outbound MTA that is stripping off 'wall'.

Also, there appear to be no public DNS records of any kind for
wall.ss.uic.edu or ss.uic.edu either for that matter. This could be
part of the problem.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Messages

2009-08-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Andrews 

At 03:29 PM 8/9/2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:

You can see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/TIA9, but the approach
there is essentially the same.

The alternative is to use Mailman's regular_exclude_lists feature
(under Non-digest options) as mentioned in the above FAQ, but with
150+ lists (or even merely a dozen), this probably isn't viable.


Mark:

The FAQ says:


a better umbrella list as long as you are not concerned about digest members.

Using the above example, create the list Threesomes with no 
members, and in Threesomes' Non-digest options - regular_include_lists put

threeblindm...@mylists.com
threebe...@mylists.com
threemenna...@mylists.com

Then, a post to Threesomes will be sent to the regular (nondigest) 
members of the above three lists without duplication.

Above you say this approach may not be viable for me.  Is this 
because of the work involved in my entering and updating the list of lists
in regular_include_lists , or because of something else I am not 
aware of.


Actually, I retract what I said. I didn't carefully read that part of
the FAQ (which I wrote - how quickly we forget sigh) and I was
thinking of using regular_exclude_lists which is a way of avoiding
duplicates when messages are cross posted to multiple lists, but which
grows in complexity as the number of lists grows. But that isn't what
you want here.


If it would work for me, I am willing to do the work -- I 
am not as technical as some, and wouldn't want to mess around with 
scripts unless I have to.  This approach would also allow me to have 
several versions of the almost-all-subscribers lists, including or 
excluding certain lists.


Yes, it would work, and the only issues are maintaining the list of
regular_include_lists in the super-list(s) and the fact that a post to
a super list won't reach anyone who is a digest subscriber on all the
sub lists of which she is a member.

So, if the digest issue is not a concern, it should work fine.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List Question - who can send to the list

2009-08-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Magann Orth wrote:

Is there a way to make the list only allow people who are on the list to
send to the list?


Set Privacy options... - Sender filters - generic_nonmember_action in
the web admin interface to anything other than Accept.



Also, how do you change the default reply to the list moderator?


See the settings under Reply-To: header munging on the General
Options page.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble with some messages being scrubbed

2009-08-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Scott Race wrote:

I am getting the following message in some of our posts, no content, just:

Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-- next part 
--


This is a bug in your 2.1.5 version, long since fixed.


A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: image/gif
Size: 1994 bytes
Desc: image003.gif
There's a link to the attachment, image003.gif, which pulls up ok, but, no 
content is being delivered.

The list settings have filter_content set to No.


This is a scrubber issue. It is independent of content filtering except
in that if you filtered the text/html part out of the
multipart/alternative part leaving only the text/plain part, it would
probably appear OK in the archive.


I read in another post that scrub_nondigest might be set to Yes, but I can't 
find the setting for that.


Because it doesn't exist in 2.1.5, and if it were set in your case, it
would just break individual messages and mime digests as well as
archives and plain digests.

Mailman 2.1.5.


If you are saying that this happens to individual messages and not to
just plain digests and archives, then this is not 'standard' 2.1.5,
and somehow Scrubber has been inserted into GLOBAL_PIPELINE either in
Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py or in a pipeline attribute of the list.

The real solution is to upgrade to a more recent Mailman that doesn't
have this Scrubber bug.

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