[Mailman-Users] debian exim4 mailman = stuck

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Andrei writes:

 > 2009-09-01 21:09:37 H=localhost (lists.myhost.org) [127.0.0.1]
 > F= rejected RCPT
 > : relay not permitted

This says that for some reason SMTP submissions from localhost are not
allowed to be relayed to other hosts.  I'm not sure why you can send
ordinary mail locally.

 > #
 > Output of exim4 -d -bt te...@lists.myhosts.org
 > #

This shows that exim routing is functioning as you expect it to.

 > #
 > Output of update-exim4.conf.conf
 > 
 > dc_eximconfig_configtype='internet'
 > dc_other_hostnames=''
 > dc_local_interfaces=''
 > dc_readhost=''
 > dc_relay_domains='lists.mylists.org'

Shouldn't this be lists.myhost.org?

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[Mailman-Users] debian exim4 mailman = stuck

[Andrei]

Tried fixing this for 2 days now and no luck.
If you can shed some light I would appreciate it.


#
Output of /var/log/exim4/mainlog
#

2009-09-01 21:09:36 1MihA8-0005GA-DO <= test1-boun...@lists.myhost.org
H=localhost (lists.myhost.org) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=5424
id=mailman.14.1251864574.6099.te...@lists.myhost.org
2009-09-01 21:09:36 1MihA8-0005GA-DO => test1
 R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport
2009-09-01 21:09:36 1MihA8-0005GA-DO Completed
2009-09-01 21:09:37 H=localhost (lists.myhost.org) [127.0.0.1]
F= rejected RCPT
: relay not permitted

#
Output of exim4 -d -bt te...@lists.myhosts.org
#


exim4 -d -bt te...@lists.mydomain.org
Exim version 4.69 uid=0 gid=0 pid=20240 D=fbb95cfd
Berkeley DB: Berkeley DB 4.6.21: (September 27, 2007)
Support for: crypteq iconv() IPv6 GnuTLS move_frozen_messages
Lookups: lsearch wildlsearch nwildlsearch iplsearch cdb dbm dbmnz
dnsdb dsearch nis nis0 passwd
Authenticators: cram_md5 plaintext
Routers: accept dnslookup ipliteral manualroute queryprogram redirect
Transports: appendfile/maildir/mailstore autoreply lmtp pipe smtp
Fixed never_users: 0
Size of off_t: 8
changed uid/gid: forcing real = effective
  uid=0 gid=0 pid=20240
  auxiliary group list: 
seeking password data for user "uucp": cache not available
getpwnam() succeeded uid=10 gid=10
configuration file is /etc/exim4/exim4.conf
log selectors = 0ffc 00612001
trusted user
admin user
seeking password data for user "mail": cache not available
getpwnam() succeeded uid=8 gid=8
seeking password data for user "list": cache not available
getpwnam() succeeded uid=38 gid=38
user name "root" extracted from gecos field "root"
originator: uid=0 gid=0 login=root name=root
sender address = r...@etc_mailname
Address testing: uid=0 gid=103 euid=0 egid=103

Testing te...@lists.mydomain.org

Considering te...@lists.mydomain.org
>>>
routing te...@lists.mydomain.org
> hubbed_hosts router <
local_part=test1 domain=lists.mydomain.org
checking domains
expansion of "${if
exists{/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts}{partial-lsearch;/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts}fail}"
forced failure: assume not in this list
hubbed_hosts router skipped: domains mismatch
> real_local router <
local_part=test1 domain=lists.mydomain.org
real_local router skipped: prefix mismatch
> system_aliases router <
local_part=test1 domain=lists.mydomain.org
checking domains
lists.mydomain.org in "lists.mydomain.org"? yes (matched "lists.mydomain.org")
lists.mydomain.org in "+local_domains"? yes (matched "+local_domains")
R: system_aliases for te...@lists.mydomain.org
calling system_aliases router
rda_interpret (string): ${lookup{$local_part}lsearch{/etc/aliases}}
search_open: lsearch "/etc/aliases"
search_find: file="/etc/aliases"
  key="test1" partial=-1 affix=NULL starflags=0
LRU list:
  ;/etc/aliases
  End
internal_search_find: file="/etc/aliases"
  type=lsearch key="test1"
file lookup required for test1
  in /etc/aliases
lookup failed
expanded:
file is not a filter file
parse_forward_list:
system_aliases router declined for te...@lists.mydomain.org
> mailman_router router <
local_part=test1 domain=lists.mydomain.org
checking domains
lists.mydomain.org in "lists.mydomain.org"? yes (matched "lists.mydomain.org")
lists.mydomain.org in "+mm_domains"? yes (matched "+mm_domains")
checking require_files
file check: /var/lib/mailman/lists/${lc:$local_part}/config.pck
expanded file: /var/lib/mailman/lists/test1/config.pck
stat() yielded 0
calling mailman_router router
mailman_router router called for te...@lists.mydomain.org
  domain = lists.mydomain.org
set transport mailman_transport
queued for mailman_transport transport: local_part = test1
domain = lists.mydomain.org
  errors_to=NULL
  domain_data=NULL localpart_data=NULL
routed by mailman_router router
  envelope to: te...@lists.mydomain.org
  transport: mailman_transport
te...@lists.mydomain.org
  router = mailman_router, transport = mailman_transport
search_tidyup called
 Exim pid=20240 terminating with rc=0 

#
Output of update-exim4.conf.conf

dc_eximconfig_configtype='internet'
dc_other_hostnames=''
dc_local_interfaces=''
dc_readhost=''
dc_relay_domains='lists.mylists.org'
dc_minimaldns='false'
dc_relay_nets='127.0.0.1:8.9.10.11/28' (fake IP)
dc_smarthost='lists.myhost.org'
CFILEMODE='644'
dc_use_split_config='false'
dc_hide_mailname=''
dc_mailname_in_oh='true'
dc_localdelivery='mail_spool'
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Relay not permitted...

[Mark Sapiro]

Andrei wrote:

>I'm using Debian. MAIN_RELAY_NETS is not defined anywhere in my exim4.
>I don't know where to add this or how.
>
>grep -r 'MAIN_RELAY_NETS' /etc/exim4/*
>/etc/exim4/conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:hostlist
>relay_from_hosts =3D MAIN_RELAY_NETS
>/etc/exim4/exim4.conf:hostlist relay_from_hosts =3D MAIN_RELAY_NETS
>/etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template:hostlist relay_from_hosts =3D MAIN_RELAY_NETS
>


There are one or two people who sometimes read this list who actually
know something about the wierd, convoluted way that Debian does Exim
configuration, but I'm not one of them.

I suggest that a Debian or Exim list or forum would be a more
productive way to pursue this question.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Relay not permitted...

[Andrei]

I'm using Debian. MAIN_RELAY_NETS is not defined anywhere in my exim4.
I don't know where to add this or how.

grep -r 'MAIN_RELAY_NETS' /etc/exim4/*
/etc/exim4/conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:hostlist
relay_from_hosts = MAIN_RELAY_NETS
/etc/exim4/exim4.conf:hostlist relay_from_hosts = MAIN_RELAY_NETS
/etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template:hostlist relay_from_hosts = MAIN_RELAY_NETS

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Andrei wrote:
> I'm using Debian. MAIN_RELAY_NETS is not defined anywhere in my exim4.
> I don't know where to add this or how.
>
> grep -r 'MAIN_RELAY_NETS' /etc/exim4/*
> /etc/exim4/conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:hostlist
> relay_from_hosts = MAIN_RELAY_NETS
> /etc/exim4/exim4.conf:hostlist relay_from_hosts = MAIN_RELAY_NETS
> /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template:hostlist relay_from_hosts = MAIN_RELAY_NETS
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> Andrei wrote:
>>>
From /var/log/exim4/mainlog
>>>
>>>2009-09-01 17:39:02 H=mail-yx0-f203.google.com [209.85.210.203]
>>>F= rejected RCPT : relay
>>>not permitted
>>>
>>>In /etc/exim4/exim4.config there is this line
>>>hostlist relay_from_hosts = MAIN_RELAY_NETS
>>>but I don't know where to define "MAIN_RELAY_NETS"
>>
>>
>> It should be already defined somewhere earlier in that file or in an
>> included file, but in any case it should include 127.0.0.1.
>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Modifying Welcome Message Subject Lines

[Mark Sapiro]

Email Help wrote:

>I host several mailing lists off a single mailman server. I would like 
>to be able to modify the subject line of the initial welcome message for 
>some of the mailing lists. Is this possible?  I was able to modify the 
>subject line of messages being posted by modifying the global pipeline, 
>but did not see my welcome messages subject being changed.


Mailman generated messages are not processed through the
GLOBAL_PIPELINE. They are processed by VirginRunner through a hard
coded pipeline consisting of CookHeaders and ToOutgoing. VirginRunner
also sets _fasttrack = 1 in the message metadata which causes even
parts of CookHeaders to be skipped.

The actual welcome subject is hard coded in Deliverer in the
SendSubscribeAck method.

So you could (possibly conditionally) modify the subject in
Mailman/Deliverer.py or modify the pipeline in
Mailman/Queue/VirginRunner.py to include your subject munging handler.

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[Mailman-Users] Seeking Assistance with CGI Script Error

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Molly Burns writes:

 > The text (including the link that doesn't work) in the reminder e-mail looks
 > like this:
 > 
 > pacdmemb...@pacd.org
 > 
 > http://pacd.org/mailman/options/pacdmembers_pacd.org/mollyburns%40pacd.org

This setup is not supported by "official" Mailman, which expects one
domain name per server.  Probably you are using Mailman as altered by
cPanel, Plesk, or some other virtual hosting product.

Look up "cPanel" in the FAQ.

 > I have tried to get help from our host, but he doesn't seem to know
 > anything more about the system than I do, so I am seeking
 > assistance from those who may have more knowledge about the system
 > and why it is creating links to the wrong location.

It's improperly configured at a more fundamental level than the list,
or perhaps the software is actually buggy, and you can't change it
yourself without root (ie, system admin) privileges on the host.
However, this link configuration is not done by Mailman as we
distribute it, it's done by the parts that were changed by the vendor
of your host's software.

There are a large number of hosts who manage to configure this
correctly; you may want to change hosts rather the go through the
rather frustrating experience of trying to teach someone who only
wants you to stop complaining (if your host cared about giving good
service, he would be getting in touch with us and with his vendor).

If you have reason to stay with this host, push him hard to talk to
his vendor (first!) and maybe to us about fixing the configuration.
He has to do it; you almost certainly can't.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Relay not permitted...

[Mark Sapiro]

Andrei wrote:
>
>>From /var/log/exim4/mainlog
>
>2009-09-01 17:39:02 H=mail-yx0-f203.google.com [209.85.210.203]
>F= rejected RCPT : relay
>not permitted
>
>In /etc/exim4/exim4.config there is this line
>hostlist relay_from_hosts = MAIN_RELAY_NETS
>but I don't know where to define "MAIN_RELAY_NETS"


It should be already defined somewhere earlier in that file or in an
included file, but in any case it should include 127.0.0.1.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix-To-Mailman.py

[Jeff Grossman]

On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 16:33:31 -0700, "Mark Sapiro"  wrote:
> Jeff Grossman wrote:
> 
>>I am using the
>>postfix-to-mailman.py script to automatically create the virtual mapping
>>in Postfix.  All of my lists are working perfectly, except mail to
>>postmaster or abuse for that virtual domain is getting rejected with the
>>following error:
>>
>> 
>>
>>Sep  1 16:13:57 corp2 postfix/smtpd[25764]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
>>corp1.turners.com[192.168.168.229]: 550 5.1.1
>>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown
>>in relay recipient table
> 
> 
> That's the problem with postfix_to_mailman.py. It is designed for a
> situation where every address in the domain is a list.
> 
> I'm not sure if you can add a virtual_alias mapping from e.g.
> postmas...@lists.turners.com to postmaster (assuming postmaster is a
> locally deliverable address) that will take priority over the
> transport mapping for the domain. If that doesn't work, you can always
> create abuse and postmaster mailman lists.

The virtual_alias_maps option worked perfectly.  Now the postmaster and
abuse addresses can receive mail with no problems.

Thanks for your help.

Jeff
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscribe blunder

[Jeffrey Goldberg]

On Sep 1, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:


Adam McGreggor wrote:


On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:51:45PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:

I just did a mass Subscribe (288 address) for a list where I had
intended to do a mass Invite.



If you didn't send a welcome message, a slightly cheeky option is to
unsub (without notification), and invite the folks.


OTOH, if you did send a welcome, check Mailman's bounce log for  
bounces

and delete those addresses from the list.


Thank you!  That is extremely obvious once you point it out, but since  
I've never run a list with unconfirmed addresses before that had  
completely slipped my mind.


As it turns out, 31 out of 288 addresses were bouncing.  So the  
transcription error rate was much worse than I'd anticipated.


Cheers,

-j


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[Mailman-Users] Relay not permitted...

[Andrei]

Thanks to all of your suggestions I made some progress. Now, when I
try to send an email to te...@lists.myhost.org I get an error message.

>From /var/log/exim4/mainlog

2009-09-01 17:39:02 H=mail-yx0-f203.google.com [209.85.210.203]
F= rejected RCPT : relay
not permitted

In /etc/exim4/exim4.config there is this line
hostlist relay_from_hosts = MAIN_RELAY_NETS
but I don't know where to define "MAIN_RELAY_NETS"

Not sure if that's even the problem or not.
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[Mailman-Users] Mail to yahoo / google accounts

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Hien HUYNH HUU writes:

Have you read the FAQ?

 > Now I have a problem when sending emails to yahoo/gmail
 > accounts with my maillist. Actually I send post to a lot of
 > accounts so that yahoo and google deny to receive my post, the
 > log I received likes this:

Both of those indicate you are suspected of spamming.  The Yahoo
message says their users are actually complaining about your mail.
(The big freemail hosts have been know to lie about exactly why
they're blocking your mail, but if you really are causing user
complaint you're in big trouble at that host.  It's very difficult to
get back in their good graces after a history of user complaint.)

You should go read their guidelines, and find out how to conform to
them.

 >I must wait for about 2 hours to resend and It block again.
 >Please help me to config mailman/qmail so that I can send mail
 >to them without being deny anything.

This is probably more a qmail problem than a Mailman problem.

You really should talk to qmail people about qmail.  There may be a
few on this list, but most people here use sendmail, Postfix, or Exim,
and the most active experts on this list know nothing about qmail that
isn't in the FAQ.
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[Mailman-Users] failed with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused')

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Andrei writes:

 > I don't know how to resolve this. Mailman is running.
 > Everything seems OK but when I try to send an email to the list I see
 > the following error messages and message is never gets sent (by
 > mailman)

You need to look at the logs of your MTA (sendmail, Exim, Postfix,
qmail are common ones) to see exactly what it is doing and where the
failure is happening.  It is strange that a list post would result in
"can't deliver to owner", though.  Is the list owner address a member
of the list?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Seeking Assistance with CGI Script Error

[Mark Sapiro]

Molly Burns wrote:
>
>The mailman system was set up
>by our web hosting service, so I had nothing to do with installing it or
>setting it up; I only set up the individual lists within the existing
>system.  I have checked 'No' for 'Send monthly password reminders?' but some
>of our members are still receiving password reminders.  This is OK, but the
>links provided in these password reminders, which are supposed to take the
>member to their subscription page, are always incorrect
>
> 
>
>The text (including the link that doesn't work) in the reminder e-mail looks
>like this:
>
> 
>
>pacdmemb...@pacd.org
>
>http://pacd.org/mailman/options/pacdmembers_pacd.org/mollyburns%40pacd.org
>
> 
>
>When you click on the above link, you get a page that says:
>
> 
>
>CGI script error
>
>Error: No such list pacdmembers_pacd.org
>
> 
>
>As you can imagine, this is frustrating for our list members.
>
> 
>
>When I go to my subscription page via list management, the address is:
>
> 
>
>http://lists.pacd.org/mailman/options/pacdmembers/molly-burns--at--pacd.org
>
> 
>
>I have tried to get help from our host, but he doesn't seem to know anything
>more about the system than I do, so I am seeking assistance from those who
>may have more knowledge about the system and why it is creating links to the
>wrong location.  I know nothing about how it generates the reminder messages
>or the links therein, and have no idea how to direct it to change them.


At first, I thought this was cPanel mailman because of the
'listname_domain' style listname in the URL, but a quick visit to the
site shows it identifies itself as mailman 2.1.5 without a '-cpx'
cPanel identifier, so my best guess is that this Mailman is somehow
modified similarly to cPanel's mailman to support identically named
lists in different domains, and these modifications are incomplete
and/or broken.

Your list shouldn't be sending password reminders if you set No for
"Send monthly password reminders?" on the General Options page. It
shouldn't be sending incorrect URLs in the reminders in any case.

These are things that only the hosting provider can address. If the
provider is unwilling or unable to fix this, you need to find a new
provider. See the wiki at  for a list.
While the Mailman project does not vette entries on that list, EMWD in
particular is active on this (mailman-users) list and appears to care
about their Mailman service.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] What causes "decoding Unicode is not supported"?

[Mark Sapiro]

Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:

>We are running Mailman 2.1.12 on Solaris 9 SPARC, Python 2.4.2. What causes 
>the following "decoding Unicode is not supported" error message?  I've looked 
>at digest.mbox and didn't find any Unicode.
[...]
>Your "cron" job on ornl71
>/usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests
>
>produced the following output:
>
>List: dcaplusplus: problem processing 
>/usr/local/mailman/lists/dcaplusplus/digest.mbox:
>decoding Unicode is not supported


I think this may be the "Mailman 2.1.12 is not compatible with python
2.4.x (x>3)" issue. See the March 2009 note at the end of the FAQ at
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail to yahoo / google accounts

[Mark Sapiro]

Hien HUYNH HUU wrote:

>Now I have a problem when sending emails to yahoo/gmail accounts with my 
> maillist. Actually I send post to a lot of accounts so that yahoo and google 
> deny to receive my post, the log I received likes this:
>
>Aug 31 08:36:55 maillist qmail: 1251682615.959034 delivery 3431: deferral: 
>Connected_to_124.108.116.72_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_421_4.7.0_[TS01]_Messages_from_a.b.c.d_temporarily_deferred_due_to_user_complaints_-_4.16.55.1;_see_http://postmaster.yahoo.com/421-ts01.html/
>
>Aug 31 08:36:55 maillist qmail: 1251682615.736333 delivery 3429: deferral: 
>Connected_to_209.85.211.7_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_421-4.7.0_[a.b.c.d]_Our_system_has_detected_an_unusual_amount_of_unsolicited/421-4.7.0_mail_originating_from_your_IP_address._To_protect_our_users_from/421-4.7.0_spam,_mail_sent_from_your_IP_address_has_been_temporarily_blocked./421-4.7.0_Please_visit_http://www.google.com/mail/help/bulk_mail.html_to_review/421_4.7.0_our_Bulk_Email_Senders_Guidelines._7si10525578ywh.126/
>
>   I must wait for about 2 hours to resend and It block again.
>   Please help me to config mailman/qmail so that I can send mail to them 
> without being deny anything.


The FAQ at  summarizes much of what we
know about dealing with large ISPs.

On your end, you need to be sure your sending server is properly
configured. At a minimum, its IP must have an rDNS that points back to
its fully qualified domain name. That name must have a DNS A record
that points to the IP, and it must identify itself as that domain in
HELO/EHLO.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscribe blunder

[Mark Sapiro]

Adam McGreggor wrote:

>On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:51:45PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
>> I just did a mass Subscribe (288 address) for a list where I had  
>> intended to do a mass Invite.
>
>[...]
>> I'm hopeful that I will be able to explain and apologize to anyone who  
>> complains to me, but I fear that I won't have that opportunity and  
>> will get blocked by the likes of AoL right off the bat.
>> 
>> Any advice is welcome.
>
[...]
>If you didn't send a welcome message, a slightly cheeky option is to
>unsub (without notification), and invite the folks.


OTOH, if you did send a welcome, check Mailman's bounce log for bounces
and delete those addresses from the list.

If you don't repeatedly mail to non-existent or spam-trap addresses at
the large ISPs, they probably won't block you unless they get multiple
complaints.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] router/aliasing problems with exim4?

[Mark Sapiro]

Andrei wrote:
>
>Mailman is installed and its website loads fine. I can manage, add
>lists, and do other admin tasks
>However, when I try to send an email to t...@lists.host.org I get an error.
>If I send an email to u...@lists.hosts.org email works fine. I can
>send and receive emails as a user, but not as a list.
>
>Is there a log that I can use/monitor to trouble shoot this?


Exim logs and other Exim tools like 'exim -bt'


>This is my router setting:
>
>begin routers
>
>  mailman_router:
>driver = accept
>domains = +mm_domains
>require_files = MM_LISTCHK
>local_part_suffix_optional
>local_part_suffix = -admin : \
> -bounces   : -bounces+* : \
>-confirm   : -confirm+* : \
> -join  : -leave : \
> -owner: -request   : \
> -subscribe : -unsubscribe
>transport = mailman_transport


And your mailman_transport and other definitions? See


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Re: [Mailman-Users] router/aliasing problems with exim4?

[Adam McGreggor]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:32:56PM -0700, Andrei wrote:
> I have a problem sending emails to and from mailman lists. I think the
> problem is with the router setting, or perhaps with mailman not
> creating aliases for the lists.

Aliases (for lists) aren't always needed.

> Mailman is installed and its website loads fine. I can manage, add
> lists, and do other admin tasks
> However, when I try to send an email to t...@lists.host.org I get an error.
> If I send an email to u...@lists.hosts.org email works fine. I can
> send and receive emails as a user, but not as a list.

what are the dns records (particularly mx records) against
"lists.host.org".

> Is there a log that I can use/monitor to trouble shoot this?

your exim logs, and your mailman logs may be a good starting point.

> This is my router setting:
> 
> begin routers
> 
>   mailman_router:
> driver = accept
> domains = +mm_domains
> require_files = MM_LISTCHK
> local_part_suffix_optional
> local_part_suffix = -admin : \
>  -bounces   : -bounces+* : \
> -confirm   : -confirm+* : \
>  -join  : -leave : \
>  -owner: -request   : \
>  -subscribe : -unsubscribe
> transport = mailman_transport

is there a transport set-up too?

Have you defined mm_domains and MM_LISTCHK?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are not delivered to list members...

[Adam McGreggor]

(if you expect an answer from me, please don't top-post)

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:37:01PM -0700, Andrei wrote:
> I can send and receive emails from the command line from this server.
> I assume that means exim4 is working fine. This must be a mailman
> issue. I just don't know how to troubleshoot this. Arrgh...

>From your mails, you don't mention how you've set things up.

Have a look at  and
report back on the responses: *not* obscurating your domain(s) may be
useful in this case.

It may also be useful to look through Exim's logfiles.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are not delivered to list members...

[Mark Sapiro]

Andrei wrote:

>I can send and receive emails from the command line from this server.
>I assume that means exim4 is working fine. This must be a mailman
>issue. I just don't know how to troubleshoot this. Arrgh...


Have you resolved your

Error  Aug 31 16:11:17 2009 (15875) delivery to
enews-ow...@lists.myfqd.org failed with code -1: (111, 'Connection
refused')

error?

See the troubleshooting FAQ at  and also
the FAQ at .

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix-To-Mailman.py

[Mark Sapiro]

Jeff Grossman wrote:

>I am using the
>postfix-to-mailman.py script to automatically create the virtual mapping
>in Postfix.  All of my lists are working perfectly, except mail to
>postmaster or abuse for that virtual domain is getting rejected with the
>following error:
>
> 
>
>Sep  1 16:13:57 corp2 postfix/smtpd[25764]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
>corp1.turners.com[192.168.168.229]: 550 5.1.1
>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown
>in relay recipient table


That's the problem with postfix_to_mailman.py. It is designed for a
situation where every address in the domain is a list.

I'm not sure if you can add a virtual_alias mapping from e.g.
postmas...@lists.turners.com to postmaster (assuming postmaster is a
locally deliverable address) that will take priority over the
transport mapping for the domain. If that doesn't work, you can always
create abuse and postmaster mailman lists.

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[Mailman-Users] Seeking Assistance with CGI Script Error

[Molly Burns]

Greetings:

 

I am brand new to this list, and new to administrating mailman lists.  I
checked the FAQ and the official searchable archives, as well as the bugs
forum, and didn't have any success.  If this is not the forum for this
question, or it has already been asked and answered, please accept my
apologies and feel free to point me in the right direction!

 

We have a number of listservs using mailman.  The mailman system was set up
by our web hosting service, so I had nothing to do with installing it or
setting it up; I only set up the individual lists within the existing
system.  I have checked 'No' for 'Send monthly password reminders?' but some
of our members are still receiving password reminders.  This is OK, but the
links provided in these password reminders, which are supposed to take the
member to their subscription page, are always incorrect

 

The text (including the link that doesn't work) in the reminder e-mail looks
like this:

 

pacdmemb...@pacd.org

http://pacd.org/mailman/options/pacdmembers_pacd.org/mollyburns%40pacd.org

 

When you click on the above link, you get a page that says:

 

CGI script error

Error: No such list pacdmembers_pacd.org

 

As you can imagine, this is frustrating for our list members.

 

When I go to my subscription page via list management, the address is:

 

http://lists.pacd.org/mailman/options/pacdmembers/molly-burns--at--pacd.org

 

I have tried to get help from our host, but he doesn't seem to know anything
more about the system than I do, so I am seeking assistance from those who
may have more knowledge about the system and why it is creating links to the
wrong location.  I know nothing about how it generates the reminder messages
or the links therein, and have no idea how to direct it to change them.

 

Thank you for any assistance you can provide, and again, if I am in the
wrong place, please let me know where my enquiry might bear fruit!

 

Thanks again,

 

Molly Burns

Administrative Assistant

PA Association of Conservation Districts (PACD)

25 North Front Street

Harrisburg, PA  17101

(717) 238-7223 x10

(717) 238-7201 Fax

  www.pacd.org

 

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[Mailman-Users] Mail to yahoo / google accounts

[Hien HUYNH HUU]

Hi all,
Now I have a problem when sending emails to yahoo/gmail accounts with my 
maillist. Actually I send post to a lot of accounts so that yahoo and google 
deny to receive my post, the log I received likes this:

Aug 31 08:36:55 maillist qmail: 1251682615.959034 delivery 3431: deferral: 
Connected_to_124.108.116.72_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_421_4.7.0_[TS01]_Messages_from_a.b.c.d_temporarily_deferred_due_to_user_complaints_-_4.16.55.1;_see_http://postmaster.yahoo.com/421-ts01.html/

Aug 31 08:36:55 maillist qmail: 1251682615.736333 delivery 3429: deferral: 
Connected_to_209.85.211.7_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_421-4.7.0_[a.b.c.d]_Our_system_has_detected_an_unusual_amount_of_unsolicited/421-4.7.0_mail_originating_from_your_IP_address._To_protect_our_users_from/421-4.7.0_spam,_mail_sent_from_your_IP_address_has_been_temporarily_blocked./421-4.7.0_Please_visit_http://www.google.com/mail/help/bulk_mail.html_to_review/421_4.7.0_our_Bulk_Email_Senders_Guidelines._7si10525578ywh.126/

   I must wait for about 2 hours to resend and It block again.
   Please help me to config mailman/qmail so that I can send mail to them 
without being deny anything.
   Best regards.
   Huu Hien
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[Mailman-Users] router/aliasing problems with exim4?

[Andrei]

I have a problem sending emails to and from mailman lists. I think the
problem is with the router setting, or perhaps with mailman not
creating aliases for the lists.

Mailman is installed and its website loads fine. I can manage, add
lists, and do other admin tasks
However, when I try to send an email to t...@lists.host.org I get an error.
If I send an email to u...@lists.hosts.org email works fine. I can
send and receive emails as a user, but not as a list.

Is there a log that I can use/monitor to trouble shoot this?

This is my router setting:

begin routers

  mailman_router:
driver = accept
domains = +mm_domains
require_files = MM_LISTCHK
local_part_suffix_optional
local_part_suffix = -admin : \
 -bounces   : -bounces+* : \
-confirm   : -confirm+* : \
 -join  : -leave : \
 -owner: -request   : \
 -subscribe : -unsubscribe
transport = mailman_transport
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[Mailman-Users] Messages are not delivered to list members...

[Andrei]

I can create a list, send emails to the list, I can even go to list
archives to view messages, but the same messages never get sent to
list members. List has default settings (no moderation or anything
like that). I don't know how to troubleshoot this. Any help would be
appreciated.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are not delivered to list members...

[Andrei]

I can send and receive emails from the command line from this server.
I assume that means exim4 is working fine. This must be a mailman
issue. I just don't know how to troubleshoot this. Arrgh...



On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Andrei wrote:
> I've been at this for three hours now and still no luck.
>
> I do have MTA = None in mm_cfg.py
> bin/newlist gives me Hit enter to notify %(listname)s owner...' prompt
> but the owner never gets a message.
> There is nothing /var/log/mailman/error
>
> When I try to telnet on port 25 from outside (different public
> network) the connection times out.
> When I try to telnet from the server on port 25 I get standard SMTP greeting.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Andrei wrote:
>> Oh, I just noticed that owners are never notified when new list is
>> created. I'm confused.
>>
>> Help?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Andrei wrote:
>>> I can create a list, send emails to the list, I can even go to list
>>> archives to view messages, but the same messages never get sent to
>>> list members. List has default settings (no moderation or anything
>>> like that). I don't know how to troubleshoot this. Any help would be
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are not delivered to list members...

[Andrei]

I've been at this for three hours now and still no luck.

I do have MTA = None in mm_cfg.py
bin/newlist gives me Hit enter to notify %(listname)s owner...' prompt
but the owner never gets a message.
There is nothing /var/log/mailman/error

When I try to telnet on port 25 from outside (different public
network) the connection times out.
When I try to telnet from the server on port 25 I get standard SMTP greeting.





On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Andrei wrote:
> Oh, I just noticed that owners are never notified when new list is
> created. I'm confused.
>
> Help?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Andrei wrote:
>> I can create a list, send emails to the list, I can even go to list
>> archives to view messages, but the same messages never get sent to
>> list members. List has default settings (no moderation or anything
>> like that). I don't know how to troubleshoot this. Any help would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are not delivered to list members...

[Andrei]

Oh, I just noticed that owners are never notified when new list is
created. I'm confused.

Help?



On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Andrei wrote:
> I can create a list, send emails to the list, I can even go to list
> archives to view messages, but the same messages never get sent to
> list members. List has default settings (no moderation or anything
> like that). I don't know how to troubleshoot this. Any help would be
> appreciated.
>
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[Mailman-Users] failed with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused')

[Andrei]

I don't know how to resolve this. Mailman is running.
Everything seems OK but when I try to send an email to the list I see
the following error messages and message is never gets sent (by
mailman)

tail -f /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure
Error  Aug 31 16:11:17 2009 (15875) delivery to
enews-ow...@lists.myfqd.org failed with code -1: (111, 'Connection
refused')

netstat -na | grep 25 (IP's are obfuscated)
tcp0  0 74.125.127.1:25   0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN
tcp0  1 74.125.127.1:5003674.125.47.121:143   SYN_SENT

telnet lists.myFQD.org 25
Trying 74.125.127.1...
Connected to 74.125.127.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 lists.myFQD.org ESMTP Exim 4.69 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:25:50 -0700
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[Mailman-Users] Modifying Welcome Message Subject Lines

[Email Help]

I host several mailing lists off a single mailman server. I would like 
to be able to modify the subject line of the initial welcome message for 
some of the mailing lists. Is this possible?  I was able to modify the 
subject line of messages being posted by modifying the global pipeline, 
but did not see my welcome messages subject being changed.

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[Mailman-Users] Postfix-To-Mailman.py

[Jeff Grossman]

I am not sure if this is better suited for this mailing list or for
Postfix.  I am running Mailman 2.1.12 on Debian.  Everything is setup
and working fine except for one thing.  I am using the
postfix-to-mailman.py script to automatically create the virtual mapping
in Postfix.  All of my lists are working perfectly, except mail to
postmaster or abuse for that virtual domain is getting rejected with the
following error:

 

Sep  1 16:13:57 corp2 postfix/smtpd[25764]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
corp1.turners.com[192.168.168.229]: 550 5.1.1
: Recipient address rejected: User unknown
in relay recipient table

 

Can anybody tell me what I messed up in the configuration?  I followed
each item at the top of the postfix-to-mailman.py file, but I get the
rejected message.

 

Thanks,

Jeff

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscribe blunder

[Adam McGreggor]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:51:45PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> I just did a mass Subscribe (288 address) for a list where I had  
> intended to do a mass Invite.

[...]
> I'm hopeful that I will be able to explain and apologize to anyone who  
> complains to me, but I fear that I won't have that opportunity and  
> will get blocked by the likes of AoL right off the bat.
> 
> Any advice is welcome.

Be pre-emptive/pro-active and mail the people you sub'd explaining
that you meant to invite them to join the list, but human error caused
them to be subscribed; that the list is low-traffic/announcements from
the school only (or whatever). Provide a link to *their* options page,
along with something like:
"I understand if you want to unsubscribe -- you can so do via
"

(It's the sort of thing I'd grep the subscribe log for, and then let
some perl/bash mail each person, giving them their customized URIs.)

If you didn't send a welcome message, a slightly cheeky option is to
unsub (without notification), and invite the folks.

(Still, it's a lot better than sending a reply about privacy policy to
a complete list of a few k subscribers, rather than the individual you
thought you were sending it to: there's a reason my external lists are
set to require all posts to be approved, even those from staff.)

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[Mailman-Users] What causes "decoding Unicode is not supported"?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

We are running Mailman 2.1.12 on Solaris 9 SPARC, Python 2.4.2. What causes the 
following "decoding Unicode is not supported" error message?  I've looked at 
digest.mbox and didn't find any Unicode.

Thanks, Larry

-Original Message-
From: GNU Mailman [mailto:mail...@ornl71.ornl.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:00 PM
To: mail...@ornl71.ornl.gov
Subject: [Mailman Site List] Output from "cron" command

Your "cron" job on ornl71
/usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests

produced the following output:

List: dcaplusplus: problem processing 
/usr/local/mailman/lists/dcaplusplus/digest.mbox:
decoding Unicode is not supported

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[Mailman-Users] Mass subscribe blunder

[Jeffrey Goldberg]

This is more of a list management question than a Mailman question,  
but I need your collective wisdom


I just did a mass Subscribe (288 address) for a list where I had  
intended to do a mass Invite.


The addresses come from a sign up sheet specifically for this list,  
but the combination of some not very legible addresses along with the  
potential for typos (I typed them all in) mean that will almost  
certainly be a handful of addresses subscribed that have no interest  
in the Wilson Middle School PTA Newsletter (Plano, TX).


Obviously this was a situation where an Invite was what was needed.  I  
had just overlooked the radio button for this.


I'm hopeful that I will be able to explain and apologize to anyone who  
complains to me, but I fear that I won't have that opportunity and  
will get blocked by the likes of AoL right off the bat.


Any advice is welcome.

-j

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