Re: [Mailman-Users] Internal Server Error

2009-11-09 Thread Carl Parsons

hi

I rebuilt suexec so docroot is

-bash-3.2# suexec -V
-D AP_DOC_ROOT=/home
-D AP_GID_MIN=100
-D AP_HTTPD_USER=apache
-D AP_LOG_EXEC=/var/log/httpd/suexec.log
-D AP_SAFE_PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
-D AP_UID_MIN=500
-D AP_USERDIR_SUFFIX=public_html

created a directory /home/mailman to put the cgi-bin files copying from 
/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin to

/home/mailman/cgi-bin

#
#  httpd configuration settings for use with mailman.
#

#ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/
Directory /home/mailman/cgi-bin/
   AllowOverride None
   Options ExecCGI
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
/Directory


Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public
   Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks
   AllowOverride None
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
/Directory

# Uncomment the following line, replacing www.example.com with your server's
# name, to redirect queries to /mailman to the listinfo page (recommended).

RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ http://www.mysite.com/mailman/listinfo

error log
[Wed Oct 21 10:39:42 2009] [error] [client 81.178.1.21] suexec policy 
violation: see suexec log for more details
[Wed Oct 21 10:39:42 2009] [error] [client 81.178.1.21] Premature end of 
script headers: listinfo



suexec.log
[2009-10-21 10:32:43]: uid: (505/mysite.com) gid: (505/mysite) cmd: listinfo
[2009-10-21 10:32:43]: target uid/gid (505/505) mismatch with directory 
(0/41) or program (0/41)


When http is at mysite.com it executes as user mysite.

Just realised I was looking at the wrong apache error file errors are in 
per site file mysite_error.log


I have tried to put the suexec back to Fedora 10 version but it still fails

Carl


PS error


 Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was 
unable to complete your request.


Please contact the server administrator, r...@localhost and inform them 
of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that 
may have caused the error.


More information about this error may be available in the server error log.



Adam McGreggor wrote:

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:09:30AM +0100, Carl Parsons wrote:
  

Hi

We have been trying to get mailman working on a fedora 10 installation
I can get it working on a internal server but my external server gives 
the following error.
I use webmin which places virtual servers in /home so I had to recompile 
suexec to work in a different root



I'd not be using webmin, for a start.

  
I suspect this is the problem but do not understand suexec configuration 
enough to fix the error


Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was 
unable to complete your request.


Please contact the server administrator, r...@localhost and inform them 
of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that 
may have caused the error.


More information about this error may be available in the server error log.



So, what's in the Apache Error Log?

  



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[Mailman-Users] Attempting to migrate mailman to a new server.

2009-11-09 Thread Millsap, James
Rsynced over all the lists, qfiles, data etc.  Now I think I just have a
sendmail problem.  Can't really seem to find anything applicable to my
situation.  



Oct 21 12:00:02 bushlms01 sendmail[3836]: n9LH02nG003836:
from=mail...@###.###, size=766, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=200910211700.n9lh01tl003...@mailman@###.###,
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
Oct 21 12:00:02 bushlms01 sendmail[3835]: n9LH01tL003835: to=mailman,
ctladdr=mailman (500/500), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=30464, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0,
stat=Sent (n9LH02nG003836 Message accepted for delivery)
Oct 21 12:00:03 bushlms01 sendmail[3837]: n9LH02nG003836:
to=|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman,
ctladdr=mail...@###.### (8/0), delay=00:00:01,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30986, dsn=5.3.0, stat=unknown mailer
error 1


I have put a link in smrsh for mailman.  I get this in the bounce.


The e-mail system was unable to deliver the message, but did not report
a specific reason.  Check the address and try again.  If it still fails,
contact your system administrator.
 ###.### #5.0.0 X-Unix; 1
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[Mailman-Users] Quick question for a newbie

2009-11-09 Thread Joe Ruffolo
I want my list members to be able to respond back to the original poster. So
when they hit reply the actually reply back to the person who posted the
message. How do I do this? I've tried changing all the settings in the admin
interface but nothing seems to work. The reply to is always
blank-boun...@mylist.com. How do I make the reply to be the sender of the
email?

Thanks,

Joe 

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[Mailman-Users] Customizing Mailman

2009-11-09 Thread Kim Huff
Hello everyone,

 

My name is Kim Huff and I am new to the list.  I have been using Mailman for
some time now but I know that I have barely tapped its full potential.  I
have my own dedicated server and on there I have a few of my clients using
the Mailman service.  Most of them would like to offer a way for their
possibly subscribers the ability to sign-up on line.  We want to be very
careful about this because we want to make sure people that do not belong to
the organization can sign up.  So, we would want anyone that signs up to go
into a queue and wait to be approved.  If there person truly is a part of
the group, we will have people that have those records and they can approve
or deny a request.  The problem is. what URL does one use for to subscribe?
Is there a way for me to customize this page?  Most of my clients use Joomla
so I would need to make sure the subscription page can work within a Joomla
page.

 

I do appreciate any help you can provide.  Unfortunately, I am kind of in a
time crunch so I hope everyone gets this message quickly.

 

Kim

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Fake Email

2009-11-09 Thread Conrad Richter
Barry Warsaw wrote:

 On Oct 31, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

 A better way to do this would be to set up the MTA on Mailman's host
 to only deliver to the list address (ie, Mailman) if the sender has
 been authenticated (eg, with TLS).

 Or to use digital signatures for sender verification.  This is not
 something that Mailman currently supports.

 -Barry
   

Another way to deal with this is sender confirmation by email, where,
like subscriber confirmation by email, a message is sent with a
confirmation link. Mailman doesn't have this capability presently but it
seems to me that since it already has subscriber confirmation, it should
be possible to adapt that sender confirmation.

This sender confirmation by email feature is available in L-Soft's
LISTSERV, and it is an essential way to avoid fake email.

In a post a few years ago Barry said that this feature was going to be
in vers. 2.2, but that version never materialized. Will it be in vers. 3?


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[Mailman-Users] Googlemail vs Gmail Bounce

2009-11-09 Thread James Sadri
Hi everyone,

This is not the standard Gmail issue about receiving a copy of your posts.

I have an issue with people using @gmail and @googlemail domains
interchangably. I know some mailing lists you can configure to treat them as
the same - is there a way to do that with Mailman?

If someone subscribes with john...@gmail.com it would be great if sending
email from john...@googlemail.com didn't bounce.

Any ideas?

Cheers,

James
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[Mailman-Users] Unable To Create Mailman Lists

2009-11-09 Thread Carlos Williams
I just installed Mailman 2.1.9-4 on my Linux mail server and
configured it according to the online guide straight from the Mailman
site. It appears to be working fine and I get hit the main page via
Apache and see the only pubic list available called 'Mailman'. Now I
selected the 'Admin Overview Page' and it takes me straight to the
'Admin' page with out any credentials for password or anything. Is
this normal Mailman behavior? Should anyone be able to simply hit my
Mailman public page and walk right into the 'Admin' page with put any
credentials?

Secondly - since I am in the 'Admin' page, I then attempt to select
the link that says create a new mailing list which takes me to a new
page for adding all the criteria for the new list I would like to
generate. At the very bottom, it has a blank field box for List
creator's (authentication) password: and I simply have no idea what
that is. If I leave it blank or type in the password for the only
Mailman list I have called Mailman, I get an error when creating the
new list that says: Error: You are not authorized to create new
mailing lists

Can someone please tell me what I did wrong?

Thanks so much!

-Carlos
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[Mailman-Users] unsubscribe

2009-11-09 Thread Emily IVA Samson Tepe

Hi All!

I need to put an easy unsubscribe link at the bottom of the  
newsletter that goes to my mailing list.


Where should I link it to? An email address, or to a web page?

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Is there a way to allow messages from non-members to go to a list without any moderation?

2009-11-09 Thread Deb Seidman
Hostgator uses mailman to provide mailing list features. So I used it to set
up several lists and started playing with them. The problem is that I really
am looking for the lists to work as a multiple destination alias (which
hostgator doesn¹t appear to support) rather than a real list.

I just want a simple way to have certain email address automatically route
to several other emails at the same time. What I got instead is a situation
where I will send out an email to the list only to get back a notification
of the need to approve this email I just sent out. I have looked through a
ton of documentation and so far haven¹t figured out how to turn this off.

So I have two situations. 1) I want a closed list that needs to be moderated
if a non-member posts to it ­ I think I have figured out how to do this one)
and 2) I want an open list where anyone can send to it just as if its a
regular email - and I would control and approve any addition or deletions
from that list (I haven¹t figured out how to do this yet).

If anyone can point me to an old posting about accomplishing the
automatically email routing of non-member email to a list without moderator
intervention, please email me.

Thanks

Deb
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[Mailman-Users] Can't post with thunderbird

2009-11-09 Thread Johannes Wienke

Hi,

I got a strange problem with a mailman mailing list hosted at kde.org. 
I'm registered at that list and also got access to the admin interface. 
The problem is that if I post a message with thunderbird it gets into 
the archive but isn't delivered to the subscribers of the list, 
including myself. This is independent of the smtp server or account I 
use for that list. If I post a message with any other mail client (gmx 
web interface, kmail) everything works as expected.


Has anyone got an idea what could cause this problem? The admins of that 
list don't have a clue either.


Here is the mail source code as it is sent by thunderbird:

Message-ID: xxx...@gmx.de
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:54:01 +0200
From: Johannes Wienke xxx...@gmx.de
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: digiKam developers room - digiKam: Manage your photographs as a 
professional with the power of open source digikam-de...@kde.org

Subject: Magic Numbers
X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi,

more email contents

I already deactivated enigmail, switched to encoding us-ascii, removed 
format=flowed... Nothing helped.


Thanks for any help in advance,
Johannes
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[Mailman-Users] Question on hostnames....

2009-11-09 Thread Chris Thompson
Hey everyone!  New user of mailman here and having a little trouble figuring
out how to change the hostname that Mailman pulls for the urls and other
stuff.  For example, in emails from the list it references the hostname in
the url like this:

 

http://server1.example.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/testlist2  (those are
not the real names of my server and domain.  Just edited for security
reasons.

 

I'd like to change it to where it only reads this:

 

http://example.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/testlist2

 

Any suggestions?  I've combed around and tried numerous things but nothing
works.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Chris

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[Mailman-Users] E-mail-based moderation

2009-11-09 Thread Brian J Mingus
I have mailman set up such that I am aliased to the *-owner address and I
receive an e-mail for every message sent to my moderated list. The subject
of this e-mail is Connectionists post from * requires approval. This
e-mail has two forwarded messages embedded in it, one from the poster, and
another that looks like this:

-- Forwarded message --
From: *-request
To:
Date:
Subject: confirm e2a38902a4d73808769e0bd9e848a069010c3181
If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact,
Mailman will discard the held message.  Do this if the message is
spam.  If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header
with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting
to the list.  The Approved: header can also appear in the first line
of the body of the reply.


This almost allows me to moderate my list entirely from within Gmail. Gmail
Labs contains a Canned responses feature that allows me to easily insert
the Approved: password line into my reply. Unfortunately *-request isn't the
address that sends me this e-mail, so I must change the address in my reply.
The subject is also wrong so I must change that, rendering this solution
ineffective. Ideally Mailman would send me this e-mail from *-request
instead of *-owner, would continue to include the posters entire e-mail, and
would use the confirm hash subject line, including accepting Re: confirm
hash as a valid reply.

I am not the sysadmin of the mail server, but if there is some simple way to
configure mailman to behave in this way it would be highly desirable for me.
My list has 5,000 subscribers and the mail server is extremely slow.
Moderating from the mailman interface is tortuous for me, but having to jump
through so many hoops in Gmail is just as bad.

Many thanks :)

/Brian
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Re: [Mailman-Users] E-mail-based moderation

2009-11-09 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:

 I have mailman set up such that I am aliased to the *-owner address and I
 receive an e-mail for every message sent to my moderated list. The subject
 of this e-mail is Connectionists post from * requires approval. This
 e-mail has two forwarded messages embedded in it, one from the poster, and
 another that looks like this:

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: *-request
 To:
 Date:
 Subject: confirm e2a38902a4d73808769e0bd9e848a069010c3181
 If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact,
 Mailman will discard the held message.  Do this if the message is
 spam.  If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header
 with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting
 to the list.  The Approved: header can also appear in the first line
 of the body of the reply.


 This almost allows me to moderate my list entirely from within Gmail. Gmail
 Labs contains a Canned responses feature that allows me to easily insert
 the Approved: password line into my reply. Unfortunately *-request isn't the
 address that sends me this e-mail, so I must change the address in my reply.
 The subject is also wrong so I must change that, rendering this solution
 ineffective. Ideally Mailman would send me this e-mail from *-request
 instead of *-owner, would continue to include the posters entire e-mail, and
 would use the confirm hash subject line, including accepting Re: confirm
 hash as a valid reply.

 I am not the sysadmin of the mail server, but if there is some simple way
 to configure mailman to behave in this way it would be highly desirable for
 me. My list has 5,000 subscribers and the mail server is extremely slow.
 Moderating from the mailman interface is tortuous for me, but having to jump
 through so many hoops in Gmail is just as bad.

 Many thanks :)

 /Brian


I just found an e-mail sent to Mailman-Developers that never received a
reply. It is essentially identical to mine. How can I bring this feature to
life?

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2008-April/020088.html
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[Mailman-Users] Is There a Hack to Add Author Confirmation of Messages?

2009-11-09 Thread Conrad Richter
I need to move a LISTSERV list to a new listserver. The main hurdle to
moving to Mailman is the fact that Mailman lacks the ability for authors
to confirm their own messages.  The principle is similar to the way
Mailman confirms new subscribers, with a web-based message confirmation
link emailed to the subscriber. Is there a hack somewhere for adding
this confirmation feature for messages?  The fact that Mailman already
has an email confirmation ability for subscriptions built-in suggests to
me that someone, somewhere has figured out a way to use that facility
for message confirmation.

For those who are interested, we implemented message confirmation on the
LISTSERV list as a security measure. We did not want to use moderation
because that tends to slow down the discussions and the dissemination of
urgent information. But at the same time we wanted a way to prevent
non-members from spoofing a list member and getting their offensive
postings out to the list. The list is an invitation only list, so once a
member is on the list, they are trusted enough to post freely to the list.

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[Mailman-Users] Please can you help me investigate an issue with two of our e mail lists.

2009-11-09 Thread Ian Peel

Please can you help me investigate an issue with two of our e mail lists.
laws-...@ucl.ac.uk
laws-pgs-resea...@ucl.ac.uk

Mail sent to these is not being forwarded. The archive shows that these 
stopped working on October the 8th.
I have checked various admin setting pages however these have not 
revealed anything to me.


Please can you help?

Yours Faithfully
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[Mailman-Users] Is There a Hack to Add Author Confirmation of Messages?

2009-11-09 Thread Conrad Richter
[Sorry if this post appears twice.  My original post sent yesterday
still does not seem to have made it to the list.]

I need to move a LISTSERV list to a new listserver. The main hurdle to
moving to Mailman is the fact that Mailman lacks the ability for authors
to confirm their own messages.  The principle is similar to the way
Mailman confirms new subscribers, with a web-based message confirmation
link emailed to the subscriber. Is there a hack somewhere for adding
this confirmation feature for messages?  The fact that Mailman already
has an email confirmation ability for subscriptions built-in suggests to
me that someone, somewhere has figured out a way to use that facility
for message confirmation.

For those who are interested, we implemented message confirmation on the
LISTSERV list as a security measure. We did not want to use moderation
because that tends to slow down the discussions and the dissemination of
urgent information. But at the same time we wanted a way to prevent
non-members from spoofing a list member and getting their offensive
postings out to the list. The list is an invitation only list, so once a
member is on the list, they are trusted enough to post freely to the list

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[Mailman-Users] Quick question

2009-11-09 Thread Support
I'm trying to add a active email link in the non digest footer but having
trouble doing so. Is this possible? 
Basically I manage around 15 lists and want people to be able to opt out of
the list by emailing me directly at
a certain email address. I can get the email address on there but its not
active. I want people to just be able to click 
it (my email address) and type remove and hit send. 

Thanks,

Joe 

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[Mailman-Users] Issue with plain text

2009-11-09 Thread Pedro Jacobetty
Hello,

I'd like to thank you for your great software, and I'm sorry to bother you
with this. I was wondering if you could help me, I'm trying to use mailman
mailing list as a way to publish in a wordpress blog. I selected plain text
for all subscriptions (such as the blog address) and I thought it would be
able to convert a MIME email into plain text. Yet this does not happen: the
message reaches the blog as MIME unless it is sent in plain text in the
first place. Is there any way I can make mailman convert MIME emails into
plain text, so wordpress recognizes the content of the email, and not only
its subject, in order to post it?

Thanks in advance,
Pedro
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[Mailman-Users] Our mailman queue laws-...@ucl.ac.uk has stopped working, can you help us?

2009-11-09 Thread Ian Peel

Our mailman queue laws-...@ucl.ac.uk has stopped working, can you help us?

Many thanks
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[Mailman-Users] Maillist spam issue

2009-11-09 Thread liuhao
Dear Mailman,

I am currently maintain the maillist for *ecfs.com.au*.
we are now facing a issue that, some members want to unsubscribe from the
mail list, and they just reply the mails we sent to them, meanwhile the
email they replied went to every members' mail account on the list.

How could we stop this?

Thank you very much.

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[Mailman-Users] Is there a security checklist available for Mailman ver 2?

2009-11-09 Thread Frederic E Riggle

Hello All,

Has anyone developed a security checklist (equivalent to the type of
checklists found at http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/ncp/repository) for
Mailman ver 2?

If a security checklist is not available, can anyone suggest resources
(websites, etc.) where I can find information that I could include in a
checklist?
The configuration documentation would probably be a good place to start.

I would also be willing to help or assist anyone in developing a security
checklist.

I am going to be tasked with setting up a Mailman server - and I will have
to develop a System Security Plan (SSP) for it - a security checklist would
be an excellent start at developing a SSP.

Thank you.

Fred Riggle

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 68, Issue 53

2009-11-09 Thread molly-burns
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Fake Email

2009-11-09 Thread Conrad Richter
Barry Warsaw wrote:
 On Oct 31, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

 A better way to do this would be to set up the MTA on Mailman's host
 to only deliver to the list address (ie, Mailman) if the sender has
 been authenticated (eg, with TLS).

 Or to use digital signatures for sender verification.  This is not
 something that Mailman currently supports.

 -Barry
   

I tried posting to the list several times now without success. I hope
this this one finally gets through.

Another way to deal with this is sender confirmation by email, where,
like subscriber confirmation by email, a message is sent with a
confirmation link. Mailman doesn't have this capability presently but it
seems to me that since it already has subscriber confirmation, it should
be possible to adapt that sender confirmation.

This sender confirmation by email feature is available in L-Soft's
LISTSERV, and it is an essential way to avoid fake email.

In a post a few years ago Barry said that this feature was going to be
in vers. 2.2, but that version never materialized. Will it be in vers. 3?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 68, Issue 54

2009-11-09 Thread molly-burns
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Fake Email

2009-11-09 Thread Conrad Richter
Barry Warsaw wrote:

 On Oct 31, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

 A better way to do this would be to set up the MTA on Mailman's host
 to only deliver to the list address (ie, Mailman) if the sender has
 been authenticated (eg, with TLS).

 Or to use digital signatures for sender verification.  This is not
 something that Mailman currently supports.

 -Barry
   

I tried posting to the list several times now without success. I hope
this this one finally gets through.

Another way to deal with this is sender confirmation by email, where,
like subscriber confirmation by email, a message is sent with a
confirmation link. Mailman doesn't have this capability presently but it
seems to me that since it already has subscriber confirmation, it should
be possible to adapt that sender confirmation.

This sender confirmation by email feature is available in L-Soft's
LISTSERV, and it is an essential way to avoid fake email.

In a post a few years ago Barry said that this feature was going to be
in vers. 2.2, but that version never materialized. Will it be in vers. 3?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 69, Issue 1

2009-11-09 Thread molly-burns
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[Mailman-Users] Can't get off a list.

2009-11-09 Thread Allison
Years ago, I was subscribed to an email list.  Since then, the owner lost
the domain, but each month I still get a user name and password reminder.
I'd love to unsubscribe, but the domain is no longer registered, therefore
email and links do not work.  I just want to stop getting the reminders from
this dead list.  I was unable to find a solution on your website, nor to I
wish to be a part of a mailing list just to get off of a mailing list.
Please advise.

 

Thank you,

Allison Cleveland

 

Below is the email I get, minus the password.

 

This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your themagickdragon.net
mailing list memberships.  It includes your subscription info and how to use
it to change it or unsubscribe from a list.

 

You can visit the URLs to change your membership status or configuration,
including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery
altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

 

In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use email to make such
changes.  For more info, send a message to the '-request' address of the
list (for example, aw_secretsanta-requ...@themagickdragon.net)

containing just the word 'help' in the message body, and an email message
will be sent to you with instructions.

 

If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to
aw_secretsanta-ow...@themagickdragon.net.  Thanks!

 

Passwords for l...@esoteric-lvx.net:

 

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[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe request

2009-11-09 Thread UpscaleWelding
Please unsubscribe me from your list.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2

2009-11-09 Thread molly-burns
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 69, Issue 3

2009-11-09 Thread molly-burns
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[Mailman-Users] Administrator Authentication

2009-11-09 Thread Kuntz, Taina M.
I am the List Administrator for a couple of mailing lists. I am unable to get 
into the system.
I'm not sure if I typed my password incorrectly too many times or if I've 
forgotten my password.
Is it possible to get my password reset?

Thanks!
Taina (tku...@purdue.edu)

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[Mailman-Users] Migration from Mailman

2009-11-09 Thread Pavlo Lyovkin
Hello!
I am an IT-assistant and got the task to find some software to make possible
the migration of our mailing lists from MailMan on freeBSD to Microsoft
operating system. Do you know such software?
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[Mailman-Users] i need help for linux ubuntu

2009-11-09 Thread lady
martedì 3 novembre 2009

hi
BUONASERA,

Saluti a tutti gli utenti è la 1a volta che entro nel Mailman. Ho
guardato spesso delle mail per sapere cose varie. 

Le mie domande: 
Come sapere differenze per esempio fra Gnome e KDE di Ubuntu nel mio
caso. Poi Dovrei sapere di più sulle differenze tra Linux Ubuntu e
Xubuntu che conosco pochissimo. Grazie di tutto Lady 

I need help for linux ubuntu 


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[Mailman-Users] FW: Administrator Authentication

2009-11-09 Thread Kuntz, Taina M.
I haven't gotten a response on this and was asked to make sure that my request 
was received.
Thank you!
Taina

From: Kuntz, Taina M.
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:17 PM
To: 'mailman-users@python.org'
Subject: Administrator Authentication

I am the List Administrator for a couple of mailing lists. I am unable to get 
into the system.
I'm not sure if I typed my password incorrectly too many times or if I've 
forgotten my password.
Is it possible to get my password reset?

Thanks!
Taina (tku...@purdue.edu)

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[Mailman-Users] Hiding the To:

2009-11-09 Thread Allen Armstrong
Hi,

 

I would normally search the archives but they seem to be broken right now.
Is there a way to hide: to: field went sending to the list?   I want to hide
my email address and my users email addresses.

 

 

Ttyl,

 

 

Allen Armstrong

 

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[Mailman-Users] Recommended howto for using with postfix apache2 mysql virtual hosts

2009-11-09 Thread John Griessen

I find some howtos that are close to my situation using debian, but there are 
differences
from there to the comments in files like:

/etc/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py
/etc/mailman/apache.conf



I'm using versions:

apache2-mpm-worker 2.2.14-1
apache2-utils  2.2.14-1
mailman1:2.1.12-3
postfix2.5.5-1.1
postfix-mysql  2.5.5-1.1
mysql-client-5.1   5.1.40-1
mysql-server-5.1   5.1.40-1

Any recommendations for installation on debian?

thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Recommended howto for using with postfix apache2 mysql virtual hosts

2009-11-09 Thread John Griessen

I find some howtos that are close to my situation using debian, but there are 
differences
from there to the comments in files like:

/etc/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py
/etc/mailman/apache.conf



I'm using versions:

apache2-mpm-worker 2.2.14-1
apache2-utils  2.2.14-1
mailman1:2.1.12-3
postfix2.5.5-1.1
postfix-mysql  2.5.5-1.1
mysql-client-5.1   5.1.40-1
mysql-server-5.1   5.1.40-1

Any recommendations for installation on debian?

thanks,

John Griessen

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[Mailman-Users] Using robots.txt

2009-11-09 Thread Max Pyziur



Greetings

Mailman's email lists are visible search engine spiders from 
http://www.somedomain.com/pipermail/emaillistname/etc


However, /pipermail is an alias of /var/mailman/archives/public/

per mailman.conf

I've tried placing a basic robots.txt file at 
/var/mailman/archives/public/ and set permissions to 644. However, my 
lists still get spidered.


Any suggestions on where to place the robots.txt file to prevent 
spidering?


Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Moving my Mailman list

2009-11-09 Thread TG Platt - WW Publ
Hi. I need helpful advice unraveling the deeply mysterious Gordian knot of
mailman conversions. Here's my situation...

I'm looking for a temporary hosting arrangement for an existing mailman
list. The list is presently running on my own dedicated server but the
server was recently cracked by a rootkit and must now be rebuilt. So I need
to move and rehost my mailman list elsewhere for a month or two while I do
the server rebuild. Then I intend to move it back again. 

This discussion list has been using mailman for years. In fact, I moved it
to my server just over a year ago from another mailman host (DreamHost as I
recall). So we have a significant legacy message archive and mailing list I
want to backup and move to the new host. Then I will need to move it back
again later. I control the current server. So, I've got no problem backing
up the existing list and archive from my current server but I'm not sure
what capabilities I MUST HAVE to be able to install it on the new one and
then to recapture the list later and bring it back to my own server.

Of course there's a web site associated with the same domain name the
mailman list now resides on. The list is presently configured using the
site's domain name (myn...@myname.org). Needless to say, I'd like both the
server move and the eventual move back again to be transparent to our users
and visitors if possible. In short I prefer to keep the same site name and
list name when I move it and when I move it back later. So I'm planning to
move both the site and the list to a new temporary host at the same time.

Obviously I'd rather NOT pay for a full year of temporary hosting when I
figure I'll be able to have my rebuilt server up and running again within 60
days. So I'm basically looking for a host where I can rent space by the
month at a reasonable price. 

I tried moving to one mailman host (bluehost) but got very ticked when their
advertised price of $4 a month turned out to be $6 a month and they were
charging me for a full year of hosting up front too. The problem wasn't so
much the price as it was that they never gave me any contract term
options... AND they never TOLD me until they'd actually charged my credit
card for a full year that I wasn't going to get the price they offered.
Needless to say, that bait and switch pricing approach made me hopping
mad. So I told them to take a hike and canceled the hosting deal. 

I then contacted another host who was up front about their short-term
pricing and found I liked them a lot in other ways too. But having been
burned once already, I'm being very cautious the second time around. So,
when their tech told me I would not get access to any of the mailman command
line utilities, I began to wonder if I'm really going to be able to migrate
my mailman list to their server now and then migrate it out again later
WITHOUT access to mailman's command line utilities. After checking out the
docs pretty carefully, I have a strong hunch the answer to THAT question is
an emphatic No!

As I recall, when I first installed mailman on my server, I was faced with
deciding whether to use the server's main domain name (mydomain.com) as the
name that hosted all mailman lists on the server or I could have used the
client's domain name as the domain name that hosted their list and all
others. As I recall the two options were mutually exclusive. In other words,
mailman wouldn't let me have two individual lists on the same server
associated with different primary domain names (e.g. mymemb...@mydomain.com
and yourmemb...@yourdomain.com). As I recall, this simply wasn't possible on
a single server. Since my client didn't want to change the name and address
of their list, I agreed to use their domain name as the hosting domain name
and I have regretted that decision ever since. I've also realized since then
that other mailman hosts seem to have figured out workarounds for that rule.
I'm sure DreamHost for example didn't force my client to use another domain
as the list domain or their list could never have been mydom...@mydomain.org
to begin with! 

So, here are my questions:

1. Can someone tell me if my hunch about not being able to move to a new
server and back without access to the mailman command line utils is right?

2. Is it possible to do the entire move from my server and back with nothing
more than a tar-ed backup and the web interface? (I think it's not.)

3. If I MUST have access to the command line utils, what commands do I need
aside from checkperms and possibly addmember?

4. Did I overlook something? Is there some way to set up mailman during my
server rebuild so that multiple domains can be supported under a single
instance of mailman WITHOUT forcing all lists to use the same hosting domain
name?

5. Are thee any other gotchas with my plan that I've overlooked?

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[Mailman-Users] PLESK configuration question - Mailman default domain

2009-11-09 Thread Brandon Rodak
I would like to use the subdomain of reports rather than the PLESK default
lists subdomain.  I have tried to edit /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py and also
whenever I add a new mailing list under my domain it is automatically given
the lists.domain.com format.

In other words, is there a force the Plesk/Mailman not to use http://lists.
domain.com/mailman/ but use http://reports.domain.com/mailman/ for the
Mailman interfaces?  Is there a default template Plesk uses when a new
mailing list (Mailman) is created which I can modify for the desired result?

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[Mailman-Users] track mail send to a mailing list

2009-11-09 Thread Daniel Ganea
I have a user that complains that he did not receive the mails, how can i
check that?
Is there a log for that? i've seen only this su logs that the message was
sent to the list members:
Nov 06 17:07:54 2009 (6726) post to infolist from infol...@.xxx,
size=120216, message-id=p3_20091106170750_4af449d66920d, success
but to track that an mail was send to his email address?
I got the confrmation that he is is a part of the list: from logs:
Jul 17 15:30:27 2009 (10993) infolist: new x.x...@.xxx , admin
mass sub
has also the option *Mail delivery set to Enable*
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Attempting to migrate mailman to a new server.

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Millsap, James  james.mill...@chicagobooth.edu:

 to=|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman,
 ctladdr=mail...@###.### (8/0), delay=00:00:01,
 xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30986, dsn=5.3.0, stat=unknown mailer
 error 1
 
 
 I have put a link in smrsh for mailman.  I get this in the bounce.

Have you allowed smrsh to use /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Quick question for a newbie

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Joe Ruffolo j...@mrkgroup.com:
 I want my list members to be able to respond back to the original poster. So
 when they hit reply the actually reply back to the person who posted the
 message. How do I do this?

That's the default.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Customizing Mailman

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Kim Huff kimh...@huffamily.com:
 Hello everyone,
 
  
 
 My name is Kim Huff and I am new to the list.  I have been using Mailman for
 some time now but I know that I have barely tapped its full potential.  I
 have my own dedicated server and on there I have a few of my clients using
 the Mailman service.  Most of them would like to offer a way for their
 possibly subscribers the ability to sign-up on line.  We want to be very
 careful about this because we want to make sure people that do not belong to
 the organization can sign up.  So, we would want anyone that signs up to go
 into a queue and wait to be approved.  If there person truly is a part of
 the group, we will have people that have those records and they can approve
 or deny a request.  The problem is. what URL does one use for to subscribe?
 Is there a way for me to customize this page?  Most of my clients use Joomla
 so I would need to make sure the subscription page can work within a Joomla
 page.

Privacy options...

* [Subscription rules] 
What steps are required for subscription?
- Require approval OR
- Confirm and approve

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Emily IVA Samson Tepe est...@hotmail.com:
 Hi All!
 
 I need to put an easy unsubscribe link at the bottom of the
 newsletter that goes to my mailing list.
 
 Where should I link it to? An email address, or to a web page?
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Please can you help me investigate an issue with two of our e mail lists.

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Ian Peel uctl...@ucl.ac.uk:
 Please can you help me investigate an issue with two of our e mail lists.
 laws-...@ucl.ac.uk
 laws-pgs-resea...@ucl.ac.uk
 
 Mail sent to these is not being forwarded. The archive shows that
 these stopped working on October the 8th.
 I have checked various admin setting pages however these have not
 revealed anything to me.

Is the mailman qrunner running on the host that handles the lists?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Maillist spam issue

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* liuhao darren.liu...@gmail.com:
 Dear Mailman,
 
 I am currently maintain the maillist for *ecfs.com.au*.
 we are now facing a issue that, some members want to unsubscribe from the
 mail list, and they just reply the mails we sent to them, meanwhile the
 email they replied went to every members' mail account on the list.
 
 How could we stop this?

Activate moderation, then LART the idiots.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't get off a list.

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Allison aclevel...@rac-host.com:
 Years ago, I was subscribed to an email list.  Since then, the owner lost
 the domain, but each month I still get a user name and password reminder.
 I'd love to unsubscribe, but the domain is no longer registered, therefore
 email and links do not work.  I just want to stop getting the reminders from
 this dead list.  I was unable to find a solution on your website, nor to I
 wish to be a part of a mailing list just to get off of a mailing list.
 Please advise.

Examine the headers of the reminder mail.
They tell you where the mail comes from

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 69, Issue 3

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* molly-bu...@pacd.org molly-bu...@pacd.org:
 I am currently out of the office. If you require immediate assistance, please 
 contact the PACD office at (717) 238-7223.

Unsubscribed.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrator Authentication

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Kuntz, Taina M. tkun...@purdue.edu:
 I am the List Administrator for a couple of mailing lists. I am unable to get 
 into the system.
 I'm not sure if I typed my password incorrectly too many times or if I've 
 forgotten my password.
 Is it possible to get my password reset?

Did you ask you local admin?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration from Mailman

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Pavlo Lyovkin plyov...@irex.ua:
 Hello!
 I am an IT-assistant and got the task to find some software to make possible
 the migration of our mailing lists from MailMan on freeBSD to Microsoft
 operating system. Do you know such software?

??? Simply export the list members and reimport them.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] i need help for linux ubuntu

2009-11-09 Thread Kemp James
From: mailman-users@python.org On Behalf Of lady  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 
2009 3:44 PM
 
 Saluti a tutti gli utenti è la 1a volta che entro nel 
 Mailman. Ho guardato spesso delle mail per sapere cose varie. 
 
 Le mie domande: 
 Come sapere differenze per esempio fra Gnome e KDE di Ubuntu 
 nel mio caso. Poi Dovrei sapere di più sulle differenze tra 
 Linux Ubuntu e Xubuntu che conosco pochissimo. Grazie di tutto Lady 
 
 I need help for linux ubuntu 

I'm sorry, I don't speak Italian, although google translate gave me the gist. 

if you need help deciding which flavour of Ubuntu you want then you would be 
best asking on http://ubuntuforums.org/

If you want to know if it makes a difference to running mailman then I don't 
believe that the flavour does make any difference. 


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[Mailman-Users] Can't post with thunderbird

2009-11-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Johannes Wienke writes:

  I got a strange problem with a mailman mailing list hosted at kde.org. 
  I'm registered at that list and also got access to the admin interface. 
  The problem is that if I post a message with thunderbird it gets into 
  the archive but isn't delivered to the subscribers of the list, 
  including myself.

Is your Thunderbird configuration set up to send HTML only, and the
list set to filter it?


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[Mailman-Users] Using robots.txt

2009-11-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Max Pyziur writes:

  I've tried placing a basic robots.txt file at 
  /var/mailman/archives/public/

robots.txt lives at /robots.txt, and nowhere else.

http://www.robotstxt.org/
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[Mailman-Users] mail delay?

2009-11-09 Thread Kammen van, Marco, Springer SBM NL
This mailman list sending mails that where queued for the last 7 days or
is it just me?? 

 

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Springer Science+Business Media
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van Godewijckstraat 30 | 3311 GX
Office Number: 05E21 
Dordrecht | The Netherlands 

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tel 

 +31(78)6576446

fax 

 +31(78)6576302

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www.springeronline.com http://www.springeronline.com  
www.springer.com http://www.springer.com/ 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] i need help for linux ubuntu

2009-11-09 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:38:43AM -, Kemp James wrote:
 if you need help deciding which flavour of Ubuntu you want then you
 would be best asking on http://ubuntuforums.org/

I'd question Ubuntu's suitability for running as a public-facing server, 
before doing that.

('cutting edge' releases against exploits and uptime.)

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[Mailman-Users] PLESK configuration question - Mailman default domain

2009-11-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brandon Rodak writes:

  I would like to use the subdomain of reports rather than the
  PLESK

We don't do PLESK, and we know that PLESK alters Mailman, but their
patches have not been published AFAIK.  If you are a PLESK user, you
have the right to get and publish copies of those patches under the
GPL.  If you do, somebody might be willing to look at them, and see if
there's a way around this issue.  But I don't know that it will be any
time soon; all the developers are very busy at the moment.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Our mailman queue laws-...@ucl.ac.uk has stopped working, can you help us?

2009-11-09 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 01:38:22PM +, Ian Peel wrote:
 Our mailman queue laws-...@ucl.ac.uk has stopped working, can you help us?

What's in the logfiles?

(Mailman, MTA, and possibly syslog/daemons)

ps(1) output for python?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question on hostnames....

2009-11-09 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 06:52:11PM -0500, Chris Thompson wrote:
 Hey everyone!  New user of mailman here and having a little trouble figuring
 out how to change the hostname that Mailman pulls for the urls and other
 stuff.  For example, in emails from the list it references the hostname in
 the url like this:
 
 http://server1.example.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/testlist2  (those are
 not the real names of my server and domain.  Just edited for security
 reasons.
 
 I'd like to change it to where it only reads this:
 
 http://example.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/testlist2
 
 Any suggestions?  I've combed around and tried numerous things but nothing
 works.

mm_cfg.py, then run fix_urls : it's in the FAQ for the details.

TBH, I'd drop the 'cgi-bin' path-element, too.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mail delay?

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Kammen van, Marco, Springer SBM NL marco.vankam...@springer.com:
 This mailman list sending mails that where queued for the last 7 days or
 is it just me?? 

Yes, of course. That was moderated stuff.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable To Create Mailman Lists

2009-11-09 Thread Krishnadas Kossery

Regarding point 2. 

Open the Command line interface,

Cd $prefix/mailman
bin/mmsitepass new passwd

Now try again to create new mailing lists with this passwd. 
 



-Original Message-
From: mailman-users-bounces+krishnadas=marfic@python.org 
[mailto:mailman-users-bounces+krishnadas=marfic@python.org] On Behalf Of 
Carlos Williams
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:18 AM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Unable To Create Mailman Lists

I just installed Mailman 2.1.9-4 on my Linux mail server and
configured it according to the online guide straight from the Mailman
site. It appears to be working fine and I get hit the main page via
Apache and see the only pubic list available called 'Mailman'. Now I
selected the 'Admin Overview Page' and it takes me straight to the
'Admin' page with out any credentials for password or anything. Is
this normal Mailman behavior? Should anyone be able to simply hit my
Mailman public page and walk right into the 'Admin' page with put any
credentials?

Secondly - since I am in the 'Admin' page, I then attempt to select
the link that says create a new mailing list which takes me to a new
page for adding all the criteria for the new list I would like to
generate. At the very bottom, it has a blank field box for List
creator's (authentication) password: and I simply have no idea what
that is. If I leave it blank or type in the password for the only
Mailman list I have called Mailman, I get an error when creating the
new list that says: Error: You are not authorized to create new
mailing lists

Can someone please tell me what I did wrong?

Thanks so much!

-Carlos
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Quick question for a newbie

2009-11-09 Thread Geoff Shang

On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:


* Joe Ruffolo j...@mrkgroup.com:

I want my list members to be able to respond back to the original poster. So
when they hit reply the actually reply back to the person who posted the
message. How do I do this?


That's the default.


Reply to Sender is the default, yes.  However, the original poster is 
seeing their MUA wanting to reply to foo-bounces rather than the actual 
poster, which I would have thought would be an issue with the MUA 
concerned (unless I'm missing something).


Geoff.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't post with thunderbird

2009-11-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Johannes Wienke writes:

  Sorry, the problem is already worked around ;) .

No problem (except for the damned spammers who make it a reasonable
choice to moderate lists like this one!)  On behalf of the moderators,
I'm sorry your post was delayed.  I'm sure we're all glad your issue
got localized/worked around.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving my Mailman list

2009-11-09 Thread Geoff Shang

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, TG Platt - WW Publ wrote:


1. Can someone tell me if my hunch about not being able to move to a new
server and back without access to the mailman command line utils is right?


hmm.  I had to do this recently, and as long as the hostname and Email 
domain is the same, I think you might be able to do this.  But I wouldn't 
sware to it.  At any rate, there's a FAQ entry about this in the FAQ on 
the Wiki.



4. Did I overlook something? Is there some way to set up mailman during my
server rebuild so that multiple domains can be supported under a single
instance of mailman WITHOUT forcing all lists to use the same hosting domain
name?


You can do this as long as you avoid having lists with the same name.  So 
you can have f...@foo.com and b...@bar.com but not b...@foo.com *as well* as 
b...@bar.com.


If you want to avoid name collisions, you pretty much have to use separate 
installs per domain, and also you need to do some playing around to make 
sure that the mail is delivered to the right domain.  See the thread at 
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-October/067364.html 
for what I ended up doing in order to achieve this.


Geoff.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] i need help for linux ubuntu

2009-11-09 Thread Barry Finkel
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:38:43AM -, Kemp James wrote:
 if you need help deciding which flavour of Ubuntu you want then you
 would be best asking on http://ubuntuforums.org/


and Adam McGreggor adam-mail...@amyl.org.uk replied:
I'd question Ubuntu's suitability for running as a public-facing server, 
before doing that.

('cutting edge' releases against exploits and uptime.)


I do not understand that reply.  I am running a Mailman server on
Ubuntu, and I have no problems.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't get off a list.

2009-11-09 Thread LuKreme

On 1-Nov-2009, at 16:47, Allison wrote:

Below is the email I get, minus the password.


This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your themagickdragon.net
mailing list memberships.  It includes your subscription info and  
how to use

it to change it or unsubscribe from a list.


Since the domain doesn't exist, you will need to look at the headers  
to see what machine is actually sending out the emails. Then you will  
need to contact their postmaster or admin contact (or possibly  
actually make a phone call) to get this taken care of.


There's nothing anyone on this list can do.

However, by googling, I did find the following information:

The Magick Dragon
365 Thames St., Newport, RI
401-843-8558 rose...@cox.net
www.themagickdragon.net

So, you might try calling the store directly or emailing rose143.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Recommended howto for using with postfix apache2 mysql virtual hosts

2009-11-09 Thread Geoff Shang

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, John Griessen wrote:

I find some howtos that are close to my situation using debian, but there are 
differences

from there to the comments in files like:

/etc/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py
/etc/mailman/apache.conf


I've set this up on 3 systems using Mailman/Apache2/Postfix, and I don't 
use postfix-to-mailman.py at all.  I simply use postfix-style virtual 
domains on mm_cfg.


As for Apache, I just made a symlink from /etc/mailman/apache.conf to 
/etc/apache2/conf.d/mailman and edited it to my liking.



I'm using versions:

apache2-mpm-worker 2.2.14-1
apache2-utils  2.2.14-1
mailman1:2.1.12-3
postfix2.5.5-1.1
postfix-mysql  2.5.5-1.1
mysql-client-5.1   5.1.40-1
mysql-server-5.1   5.1.40-1


You won't need to use any of the Mysql stuff, just point Postfix to the 
aliases and virtual Mailman files produced by Mailman.  These should be in 
/var/lib/mailman/data.  These can be alongside your SQL definitions like 
so:


alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,
hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases


virtual_alias_maps =
   proxy:pgsql:/etc/postfix/sql/pgsql_virtual_alias_maps.cf,
   proxy:pgsql:/etc/postfix/sql/pgsql_virtual_alias_domain_maps.cf,

roxy:pgsql:/etc/postfix/sql/pgsql_virtual_alias_domain_catchall_maps.cf
   hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman



Any recommendations for installation on debian?


I found the Postfix section of the installation manual to be pretty 
helpful. http://list.org/./mailman-install/node12.html


I also discovered, when I had to do a from-source installation, that I'd 
left out a few steps by only reading this chapter, so a complete walk 
through the manual is probably a good idea.


Feel free to ask if you have any further questions.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] E-mail-based moderation

2009-11-09 Thread LuKreme

On 9-Nov-2009, at 05:09, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

Brian J Mingus writes:

I just found an e-mail sent to Mailman-Developers that never  
received a
reply. It is essentially identical to mine. How can I bring this  
feature to

life?


A fully functional MUA allows you to pull out the forwarded message
and respond to it.  Mutt, Gnus, VM, MH-E (and MH itself), Mew, and
Wanderlust all have this capability; I'm sure there are other MUAs
that do.  If GMail doesn't have it, well, that won't be the first
broken-by-design misfeature in GMail that I've run into.


I think gmail DOES do this if you open the attachment. I can't seem to  
find an example to test it on…


Ah, oK, no, not exactly. It only allows you to see the full message,  
but not to open it as a message.


Guess you might have to use some other mail client for this (I know OS  
X's Mail.app works just fine with this, click the attachment, reply.  
Done and done. I bet ThunderBird does as well.)



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[Mailman-Users] mailman-postfix-mysql virtual bounces with unknown user: sandbox-request

2009-11-09 Thread John Griessen

sandbox-request is one of the mailman generated addressed for list 
sand...@lists.cibolo.us

I'm using debian with

postfix2.5.5-1.1
mailman1:2.1.12-3
mysql-server   5.1.40-1
mysql-client-5.1   5.1.40-1
apache2-mpm-worker 2.2.14-1
apache22.2.14-1

I've gotten the install to work up to the point of a new list member's conf 
email bouncing:
-
The mail system

sandbox-requ...@mail.cibolo.us (expanded from
sandbox-requ...@lists.cibolo.us): unknown user: sandbox-request

Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.cibolo.us
-

Permission check showed no trouble.

I think it is a postfix config problem where I've added too much information.
If you can spot trouble in either of these config files, I'd appreciate it.

postfix main.cf
===
# See /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist for a commented, more complete version
#hostname of the server without any subdomain parts.
mydomain = cibolo.us
#Try out this process_limit to reduce memory used on server
default_process_limit = 40
minimal_backoff_time = 2500

#number of SMTP sends to the same place at once
#SMTP process limit server wide is set at 9 in master.cf
default_destination_concurrency_limit = 4

smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU)
biff = no

# DOS limiting by error behavior
smtpd_error_sleep_time = 2
smtpd_soft_error_limit = 3
smtpd_hard_error_limit = 8
# appending .domain is the MUA's job.
append_dot_mydomain = no

# Uncomment the next line to generate delayed mail warnings
delay_warning_time = 20m

# jg's restrictions
smtpd_helo_required = yes
smtpd_client_restrictions =
smtpd_helo_restrictions =
smtpd_sender_restrictions =

smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
permit_mynetworks,
permit_sasl_authenticated,
reject_unauth_destination,
reject_invalid_hostname,
reject_unauth_pipelining,
reject_non_fqdn_sender,
reject_unknown_sender_domain,
reject_non_fqdn_recipient,
reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
check_client_access cdb:/etc/postfix/access_client_ipaddr_checks,
check_helo_access cdb:/etc/postfix/access_helo_checks,
check_sender_access cdb:/etc/postfix/access_sender_checks,
#check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/access_recipient_checks,
reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net,
reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org
permit

myhostname = mail.cibolo.us
alias_maps = cdb:/etc/aliases
alias_database = cdb:/etc/aliases
myorigin = /etc/mailname
mydestination = localhost mail.cibolo.us localhost.cibolo.us
mynetworks = 76.191.252.85 127.0.0.0/8
relayhost =
mailbox_size_limit = 8000
recipient_delimiter = +
notify_classes = resource, software
#virtual mailbox method
virtual_mailbox_base = /var/mail/vhosts
virtual_minimum_uid = 1999
virtual_uid_maps = cdb:/etc/postfix/virtual_uid
virtual_gid_maps = cdb:/etc/postfix/virtual_gid

virtual_mailbox_limit = 5120

#virtual alias method
#virtual_mailbox_domains = polymerlogic.com industromatic.com
virtual_mailbox_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf
#virtual_alias_maps = cdb:/etc/postfix/virtual
virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf,
   hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
#virtual_mailbox_maps = cdb:/etc/postfix/vmailbox
virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf
virtual_transport = virtual
# Additional for quota support
#virtual_create_maildirsize = yes
#virtual_mailbox_extended = yes
#virtual_mailbox_limit_maps = 
mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_limit_maps.cf
#virtual_mailbox_limit_override = yes
#virtual_maildir_limit_message = Sorry, the user's maildir has overdrawn his 
diskspace quota, please try again later.
#virtual_overquota_bounce = yes

#If you want to use MySQL also to store your Backup MX domains add this
#relay_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_relay_domains_maps.cf

#mailman setup related:
relay_domains =  lists.metalartists.org lists.cibolo.us
#relay_recipient_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1

=

mm_cfg.py
=
# -*- python -*-

# Copyright (C) 1998,1999,2000 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
# modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
# as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
# of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
# Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA
# 02110-1301 USA


This is the module which takes your site-specific 

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe request

2009-11-09 Thread LuKreme

On 1-Nov-2009, at 18:49, upscaleweld...@aol.com wrote:

Please unsubscribe me from your list.


Please unsubscribe yourself by reading ANY MESSAGE SENT TO THE LIST.

(hint, look for the word Unsubscribe included in every single message)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Using robots.txt

2009-11-09 Thread LuKreme

On 8-Nov-2009, at 18:09, Max Pyziur wrote:
I've tried placing a basic robots.txt file at /var/mailman/archives/ 
public/



Have you read ANY documentation on robots.txt?

http://www.robotstxt.org/robotstxt.html

Notice the FIRST LINE:

About /robots.txt

and notice the third line:

Web site owners use the /robots.txt file to give instructions about  
their site to web robots; this is called The Robots Exclusion Protocol.


Do you see that leading /?

robots.txt must always be placed in the root folder for the site. that  
is the only place that it has any meaning or effect.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Hiding the To:

2009-11-09 Thread Geoff Shang

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Allen Armstrong wrote:


Is there a way to hide: to: field went sending to the list?   I want to hide
my email address and my users email addresses.



Is it the To field or the From field you want to hide?  It sounds to me 
like you want to hide the From field (i.e. the sender of each message).

You can set the list up to allow anonymous posting.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrator Authentication

2009-11-09 Thread Geoff Shang

On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Kuntz, Taina M. wrote:


I am the List Administrator for a couple of mailing lists. I am unable to get 
into the system.
I'm not sure if I typed my password incorrectly too many times or if I've 
forgotten my password.
Is it possible to get my password reset?


Yes.  Contact the system administrator who is responsible for the system 
where the list software runs and get them to reset the owner passwords on 
the lists you administer.  Get them to run the bin/change_pw script in 
order to change the password.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't get off a list.

2009-11-09 Thread Geoff Shang

On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Allison wrote:


Years ago, I was subscribed to an email list.  Since then, the owner lost
the domain, but each month I still get a user name and password reminder.
I'd love to unsubscribe, but the domain is no longer registered, therefore
email and links do not work.  I just want to stop getting the reminders from
this dead list.


You'll need to get the person running the system where the list was set up 
to remove you.  Better still, get them to delete the entire list.  Chances 
are that you might not be the only one in this position.


If you don't know where the mail is coming from, the full headers of one 
of these reminder messages can help.


Geoff.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to allow messages from non-members to go to a list without any moderation?

2009-11-09 Thread Geoff Shang

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Deb Seidman wrote:


Hostgator uses mailman to provide mailing list features. So I used it to set
up several lists and started playing with them. The problem is that I really
am looking for the lists to work as a multiple destination alias (which
hostgator doesn¹t appear to support) rather than a real list.


The way to do this is to go into Privacy/Sender Filters and set it so that 
the default non-member action is Accept.


However, depending on your preferences, this may not be all you will want 
to do with this.


In order to let through absolutely everything, you'll also want to set the 
maximum message size to 0, set it to not care how many recipients there 
are to a message, and set it not to care whether or not the list name is 
in the To or Cc fields of the message.  The first of these is in the 
general options (I think), and the others are in the recipient filters in 
the privacy section.


I've had to set up such a list myself recently and ran into a few of these 
gotchas.  I think that perhaps I also had to set something else but I 
forget now what it might have been.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable To Create Mailman Lists

2009-11-09 Thread Geoff Shang

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Carlos Williams wrote:


I just installed Mailman 2.1.9-4 on my Linux mail server and
configured it according to the online guide straight from the Mailman
site. It appears to be working fine and I get hit the main page via
Apache and see the only pubic list available called 'Mailman'. Now I
selected the 'Admin Overview Page' and it takes me straight to the
'Admin' page with out any credentials for password or anything. Is
this normal Mailman behavior? Should anyone be able to simply hit my
Mailman public page and walk right into the 'Admin' page with put any
credentials?


Yes.  You can't do anything there without a password of some sort, but hte 
password required will depend on which list you want to edit.



Secondly - since I am in the 'Admin' page, I then attempt to select
the link that says create a new mailing list which takes me to a new
page for adding all the criteria for the new list I would like to
generate. At the very bottom, it has a blank field box for List
creator's (authentication) password: and I simply have no idea what
that is. If I leave it blank or type in the password for the only
Mailman list I have called Mailman, I get an error when creating the
new list that says: Error: You are not authorized to create new
mailing lists


You need to create a site password. 
http://list.org/./mailman-install/node6.html


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[Mailman-Users] How to alias the listinfo page to lists.site.com?

2009-11-09 Thread John Griessen

I have a working installation with listinfo at

http://lists.metalartists.org/mailman/listinfo/

I'd like to see that page when I web browse to http://lists.metalartists.org

Is that easy?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to alias the listinfo page to lists.site.com?

2009-11-09 Thread Geoff Shang

On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, John Griessen wrote:


I have a working installation with listinfo at

http://lists.metalartists.org/mailman/listinfo/

I'd like to see that page when I web browse to http://lists.metalartists.org

Is that easy?


Depends what you want to do.  If you only want this domain to redirect to 
the above URL and you don't care where the rest points, you can simply do 
a redirect by setting up lists.metalartists.org as a virtual host and 
putting in an alias for /


If you want all of Mailman to appear under this host, you will probably 
want to also use these aliases:


Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
Alias /images/mailman/ /usr/share/images/mailman/
ScriptAlias /admin /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admin
ScriptAlias /admindb /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb
ScriptAlias /confirm /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/confirm
ScriptAlias /create /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/create
ScriptAlias /edithtml /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/edithtml
ScriptAlias /listinfo /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
ScriptAlias /options /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/options
ScriptAlias /private /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/private
ScriptAlias /rmlist /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/rmlist
ScriptAlias /roster /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/roster
ScriptAlias /subscribe /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/

Edit the above paths if your Mailman installation is somewhere different.

You'll also want to put the following in mm_cfg.py:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'metalartists.org'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.metalartists.org'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/'

I got this info from the apache.conf fragment that ships with the Mailman 
Debian package.


Hope this helps,
Geoff.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] i need help for linux ubuntu

2009-11-09 Thread LuKreme

On 3-Nov-2009, at 08:43, lady wrote:

Come sapere differenze per esempio fra Gnome e KDE di Ubuntu nel mio
caso. Poi Dovrei sapere di più sulle differenze tra Linux Ubuntu e
Xubuntu che conosco pochissimo.



GNOME and KDE are two different GUIs for Linux. Ubuntu is a specific  
variant of Linux, so GNOME and KDE for Ubuntu/MythBuntu/XuBuntu/ 
Edubuntu/Ubuntu Studio, c are ALL Linux. Any of them will run  
Mailman. Which is best for you is a question that, realistically, only  
you can answer.


You might start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions

A lot of people really like the new manager in Xubuntu. I find the  
whole thing rather pointless as I don't want a GUI on a server in the  
first place, so I tend to run stripped down FreeBSD with no window  
manager; but that's me.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe request

2009-11-09 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* LuKreme krem...@kreme.com:
 On 1-Nov-2009, at 18:49, upscaleweld...@aol.com wrote:
 Please unsubscribe me from your list.
 
 Please unsubscribe yourself by reading ANY MESSAGE SENT TO THE LIST.
 
 (hint, look for the word Unsubscribe included in every single message)
upscaleweld...@aol.com is not subscribed to any python.org lists.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe request

2009-11-09 Thread LuKreme

On 9-Nov-2009, at 13:49, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

upscaleweld...@aol.com is not subscribed to any python.org lists.


That's odd, the message I replied to came to the mailman list.

Return-Path: mailman-users-bounces+kremels=kreme@python.org
X-Original-To: krem...@kreme.com
Delivered-To: krem...@covisp.net
Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org [82.94.164.166])
by mail.covisp.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D52F0118AE1B
for krem...@kreme.com; Mon,  9 Nov 2009 03:24:25 -0700 (MST)
[…]
From: upscaleweld...@aol.com
Message-ID: bfb.69a31be6.381f9...@aol.com
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 20:49:36 EST
To: mailman-users@python.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5004
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-AOL-SENDER: upscaleweld...@aol.com
X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:43:24 +0100
X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.12
Subject: Unsubscribe request
X-BeenThere: mailman-users@python.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12

I guess he managed to figure it out between posting on the 1st and the  
message getting pushed through today? Of course, I didn't notice the  
date as I sort by 'date received' and not 'date sent'.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe request

2009-11-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
LuKreme writes:
  On 9-Nov-2009, at 13:49, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
   upscaleweld...@aol.com is not subscribed to any python.org lists.

  I guess he managed to figure it out between posting on the 1st and the  
  message getting pushed through today?

More likely he was one of the folks who thinks that Mailman runs the
lists.  Google Groups ... Yahoo Groups (now *there* is an appropriate
moniker!) ... Mailman Lists.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't post with thunderbird

2009-11-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

Johannes Wienke writes:

  Sorry, the problem is already worked around ;) .

No problem (except for the damned spammers who make it a reasonable
choice to moderate lists like this one!)  On behalf of the moderators,
I'm sorry your post was delayed.  I'm sure we're all glad your issue
got localized/worked around.


During the moderation delay, this was asked and answered at
https://answers.launchpad.net/mailman/+question/86976.

For completeness here, the underlying issue was that the display-name
of the posting address contained a colon (:) and it was not being
quoted by Thunderbird. Then the unquoted special in the display-name
of the To: address was apparently causing a problem in delivery of the
outgoing mail from Mailman.

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