[Mailman-Users] Mailman current version?
I have been using Mailman 2.1.12 for awhile now and am migrating to a different server. When I looked on the website, I found two sources for the Mailman package, Launchpad and Gnu. It says that Gnu tends to lag behind in versions available. In Launchpad, it says the current version is 3.0.0a3 and Gnu has 2.1.12. I am pretty sure that the latter is the most current stable version and I have not seen any posts about a new version, so? I just want to verify this before moving forward with the migration. -- Christopher Adams adam...@gmail.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman current version?
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Christopher Adams wrote: I have been using Mailman 2.1.12 for awhile now and am migrating to a different server. When I looked on the website, I found two sources for the Mailman package, Launchpad and Gnu. It says that Gnu tends to lag behind in versions available. In Launchpad, it says the current version is 3.0.0a3 and Gnu has 2.1.12. I am pretty sure that the latter is the most current stable version and I have not seen any posts about a new version, so? I'm surprised none of the developers here have answered (unless I somehow missed it) but I assume the "a" in that 3.0.0a3 means "alpha". In other words, a very preliminary first look version and not at all suitable for any sort of production work. I do recall a mention of a first alpha version of Mailman 3 but unless you're into heavy testing on a separate system, stay away from it for now. IMHO, the mailman team is very good about version numbering and officially calling something a production version when it's ready. Contrast that to the far too many projects that don't understand versioning and will put out a beta and then if it works, just say "use the beta, it's the current latest working version". With Mailman, wait for an official production release as it will come when everything is ready. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Please help
Original Message Subject:[Mailman-Users] Please help Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:46:14 -0800 (PST) From: Abdelmajid Kassem To: mailman-users@python.org Hello Dear friend: We are a nonprofit organization and our website is www.hc-mambd.org. We are hosting this site with a friend who has a hosting company. However, to my knowledge, he does not support any maling lists which we need. I have another website hosted by justhost.com and they support the mailing lists. My idea is to put the first site in the second's account which I did and create my mailing list. However, when I created the mailing list (i...@hc-mambd.org) and want to add the members (Membership Management), it tells me this: - No such list info_hc-mambd.orgThere currently are no publicly-advertised Mailman mailing lists on hc-mambd.org.To visit the administrators configuration page for an unadvertised list, open a URL similar to this one, but with a '/' and the right list name appended. If you have the proper authority, you can also create a new mailing list. General list information can be found at the mailing list overview page.(Send questions and comments to mail...@hc-mambd.org.)--- Can you PLEASE help me create my list (i...@hc-mambd.org) and add members to it? Thank you, Dr. Kassem. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org Dr. K., after seeing your reference to 'justhost.com' I checked them out AND traded a couple of Tech. Service mails. You have one serious drawback; they do NOT offer nor support MailMan. "mailing lists, yes but NOT MM. Sorry. Ed -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman current version?
Larry Stone writes: > I'm surprised none of the developers here have answered (unless I somehow > missed it) I think it's probably just time differentials, and the fact that the only developer currently active on mailman-users is Mark. 2.1.12 is the latest release in the 2.x series. It was intended to be superseded by the 2.2 branch, but it looks like it may continue in maintenance mode for a couple more releases. I would expect that future changes to 2.1.x will be more of the "damn the spammers, but we have to do something about this new abuse they've cooked up" rather than "bright shiny things" or even "mile-deep roach decides to look at the sun" -- there probably are not many implementation bugs left, although there are a raft of design problems. The 2.2 branch has been cancelled in favor of 2.2-oriented developers helping with 3.0. There just wasn't enough manpower being applied to address the design issues, and 3.0 is a much nicer platform for developing a better UIs etc. 3.0 is currently in active development. To call it "alpha" is a misnomer; the implementation is currently very incomplete. It's actually usable as a mailing list distribution agent, but most of the UI is as yet missing (at last report). I expect early UI development will go pretty fast as a lot of basic stuff can be ported from 2.x, but then things may slow down again as thorny issues like backscatter and radical UI improvement are addressed. Discussion of Mailman 3 occurs on the mailman-developers list and on the Mailman wiki. If you're just looking for the latest production version of Mailman, that's 2.1.12. HTH, and of course Barry and Mark are authoritative sources here. Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman current version?
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Larry Stone writes: > > > I'm surprised none of the developers here have answered (unless I somehow > > missed it) > >I think it's probably just time differentials, and the fact that the >only developer currently active on mailman-users is Mark. And the fact that a couple of days a week I usually spend the entire day away from computers (unless you count the cyclometer on my bicycle). :) >HTH, and of course Barry and Mark are authoritative sources here. All of what Steve and Larry said in this thread is correct. In addition, there will be a 2.1.13 release before the end of the year. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
