Re: [Mailman-Users] name change
How do I change my name on my e-mails? My name went from Loretta G. Kepler to Loretta Guglielmino. I am currently using my maiden mane. thanks Lori -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Global whitelist for all mailinglists?
Hello everybody, I'm administrating a mailman installation with nearly 20 different mailinglists. And each mailinglist has it't own whitelist to accept mails from non members (accept_these_non_members). If I got a new email address that should be accepted from all lists I have to log in 20 times and to add this new email address to the whitelist 20 times. That costs much time... Is there a possiblity to have a global whitlists? Then changes only have to be made in this one whitelist and then are active in all lists. Maybe anyone does know a solution? Best regards KoloJay -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Global-whitelist-for-all-mailinglists--tp26695911p26695911.html Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Can't hide sender of message
Hello. I use Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3. I have set to yes the option Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields). Now subscribers are receiving e-mail from the mailing list and from the author of the e-mail message. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Can%27t-hide-sender-of-message-tp26705496p26705496.html Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Member unable to post to list
Hello, With Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 I received the following message for a message posted by a member of the list: Post by non-member to a members-only list Any ideas? Thanks, Tom -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Member-unable-to-post-to-list-tp26705499p26705499.html Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] name change
Loretta G. Kepler wrote: How do I change my name on my e-mails? My name went from Loretta G. Kepler to Loretta Guglielmino. I am currently using my maiden mane. thanks Lori I don't think this is a mailman question. I think you are asking how to change your name in your mail client (Evolution 2.22.3.1). There is some options or preferences setting to do this. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Global whitelist for all mailinglists?
KoloJay wrote: I'm administrating a mailman installation with nearly 20 different mailinglists. And each mailinglist has it't own whitelist to accept mails from non members (accept_these_non_members). If I got a new email address that should be accepted from all lists I have to log in 20 times and to add this new email address to the whitelist 20 times. That costs much time... Is there a possiblity to have a global whitlists? Then changes only have to be made in this one whitelist and then are active in all lists. Maybe anyone does know a solution? Create a list 'listname' which doesn't send passwords or notices and for which new members are moderated by default and member_moderation_action is discard. This is your whitelist. Then add @listname to accept_these_nonmembers of the other lists. Also, see the script at http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/non_members. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't hide sender of message
TomSherlock wrote: I use Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3. I have set to yes the option Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields). Now subscribers are receiving e-mail from the mailing list and from the author of the e-mail message. Do you mean they receive a single message from the list which is From: both the list and the poster? If so, this is a cPanel issue which we can't help with. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/sYA9. If on the other hand, you mean they receive two messages, one from the list which is From: the list and one From: the poster, perhaps the poster is including some list members in a CC or BCC, or this could also be a cPanel issue. In order to say more, we'd have to see the complete headers of both messages. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member unable to post to list
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, TomSherlock wrote: With Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 I received the following message for a message posted by a member of the list: Post by non-member to a members-only list Any ideas? Was their message sent from their subscribed address? This message usually means what it says. Geoff. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member unable to post to list
TomSherlock wrote: With Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 I received the following message for a message posted by a member of the list: Post by non-member to a members-only list Any ideas? The address the poster sent the message from was not identical (except for case) to the poster's subscribed address. E.g. u...@example.com vs. u...@mail.example.com or u...@gmail.com vs. u...@googlemail.com. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] name change
Mark Sapiro wrote: Loretta G. Kepler wrote: How do I change my name on my e-mails? My name went from Loretta G. Kepler to Loretta Guglielmino. I am currently using my maiden mane. thanks Lori I don't think this is a mailman question. I think you are asking how to change your name in your mail client (Evolution 2.22.3.1). There is some options or preferences setting to do this. Well, it *could* be a mailman question. You can change your real name in your list options page (e.g. http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users for this list). Changing your name in mailman will change which name administrators see when they look at your subscription, and the name you see when you log in to edit your mailman options. However, this has no impact on what name will show up in the mails you send to the list or elsewhere. As Mark said, you'll need to change that in your mail client. Terri -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member unable to post to list
Mark Sapiro wrote: TomSherlock wrote: With Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 I received the following message for a message posted by a member of the list: Post by non-member to a members-only list Any ideas? user should subscribe, once per email 'variation', and set all but one of the addresses to 'I don't want email'. The address the poster sent the message from was not identical (except for case) to the poster's subscribed address. E.g. u...@example.com vs. u...@mail.example.com or u...@gmail.com vs. u...@googlemail.com. -- Michael Scheidell, CTO Phone: 561-999-5000, x 1259 *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporation * Certified SNORT Integrator * 2008-9 Hot Company Award Winner, World Executive Alliance * Five-Star Partner Program 2009, VARBusiness * Best Anti-Spam Product 2008, Network Products Guide * King of Spam Filters, SC Magazine 2008 _ This email has been scanned and certified safe by SpammerTrap(r). For Information please see http://www.spammertrap.com _ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] t...@ramruva.com vs t...@comconmedia.com [Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]
and, if you are using spf, you need to fix your mail servers. if you 'transparently' forward without changing 'from' address, you get stuff like this. (because, your forwarded does NOT have permission to send on behalf of 'secnap.net') Original Message Subject:Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:24:04 -0500 From: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@a2s44.a2hosting.com To: scheid...@secnap.net This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: t...@ramruva.com (ultimately generated from t...@comconmedia.com) SMTP error from remote mail server after DATA: host smtp.secureserver.net [216.69.186.201]: 550 5.7.1 SPF unauthorized mail is prohibited. -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: scheid...@secnap.net Received: from mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net ([204.89.241.253]) by a2s44.a2hosting.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from scheid...@secnap.net) id 1NIOOW-00043m-L0 for t...@comconmedia.com; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:24:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net [204.89.241.253]) by mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336EA2B7CB0; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:23:59 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=secnap.net; h= content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:references:subject:subject :mime-version:user-agent:from:from:date:date:message-id; s=dkim; t=1260372238; x=1262186638; bh=mraOc+S+h6T7UDPoNJJrXGnh7FOuIqri csPSueb6nFw=; b=VYpTsIQQQytdBsYEL9RQH5Sw5yfWcdw1vGJ0Gw6/roHCDikA uWGeu/1MjT0YpR8F+Oi3WYadRaX+jsjwOioQY90S8xZgxbmKpgkVCGtIEp12g+Lj wKwIj0ArnPHVEiRWMAgcq+Y5olDxTUZU0abyCvWkUZrITP8lYGkk8l4hjow= X-Amavis-Modified: Mail body modified (using disclaimer) - mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net X-Virus-Scanned: SpammerTrap(r) VPS-1500 2.08 at mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net Received: from secnap3.secnap.com (secnap3.secnap.com [204.89.241.130]) by mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687982B7C6D; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:23:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Macintosh.local ([10.70.3.3]) by secnap3.secnap.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:23:58 -0500 Message-ID: 4b1fc10e.6010...@secnap.net Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:23:58 -0500 From: Michael Scheidell scheid...@secnap.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TomSherlock t...@comconmedia.com CC: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Member unable to post to list References: pc195200912090720180296963be...@msapiro In-Reply-To: pc195200912090720180296963be...@msapiro Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=080100040103070106040404 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2009 15:23:58.0172 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0A779C0:01CA78E3] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --080100040103070106040404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Sapiro wrote: TomSherlock wrote: With Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 I received the following message for a message posted by a member of the list: Post by non-member to a members-only list Any ideas? user should subscribe, once per email 'variation', and set all but one of the addresses to 'I don't want email'. The address the poster sent the message from was not identical (except for case) to the poster's subscribed address. E.g. u...@example.com vs. u...@mail.example.com or u...@gmail.com vs. u...@googlemail.com. -- Michael Scheidell, CTO Phone: 561-999-5000, x 1259 *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporation * Certified SNORT Integrator * 2008-9 Hot Company Award Winner, World Executive Alliance * Five-Star Partner Program 2009, VARBusiness * Best Anti-Spam Product 2008, Network Products Guide * King of Spam Filters, SC Magazine 2008 _ This email has been scanned and certified safe by SpammerTrap(r). For Information please see http://www.spammertrap.com _ --080100040103070106040404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta content=text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type /head body bgcolor=#ff text=#00 br br Mark Sapiro wrote: blockquote cite=mid:pc195200912090720180296963be...@msapiro type=cite pre wrap=TomSherlock wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=With Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 I received the following message for a
Re: [Mailman-Users] name change
For what it is worth, I use Evolution occasionally. To change how your name appears in your mail client (Evolution), go to Edit-Preferences. Select your account and click on the Edit button. Under the Identity Tab, change the Full Name information to what you would like to appear in your messages. Click on OK, then close the preferences dialog. That should do it. Unless you are using a totally different Evolution than I am (Evolution v2.12.3). Chris Mark Sapiro wrote: Loretta G. Kepler wrote: How do I change my name on my e-mails? My name went from Loretta G. Kepler to Loretta Guglielmino. I am currently using my maiden mane. thanks Lori I don't think this is a mailman question. I think you are asking how to change your name in your mail client (Evolution 2.22.3.1). There is some options or preferences setting to do this. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member unable to post to list
Mark Sapiro-3 wrote: TomSherlock wrote: With Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 I received the following message for a message posted by a member of the list: Post by non-member to a members-only list Any ideas? The address the poster sent the message from was not identical (except for case) to the poster's subscribed address. E.g. u...@example.com vs. u...@mail.example.com or u...@gmail.com vs. u...@googlemail.com. This may or may not be the case. The post was sent from subscribed-u...@example.com. This e-mail address subscribed-u...@example.com is subscribed to the mailing list. However, I did sent the e-mail out of the webmail account of m...@my-personal-domain.com, which allows me to change the value of the FROM field to subscribed-u...@example.com, a different domain. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Member-unable-to-post-to-list-tp26705499p26712521.html Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't hide sender of message
Mark Sapiro-3 wrote: TomSherlock wrote: I use Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3. I have set to yes the option Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields). Now subscribers are receiving e-mail from the mailing list and from the author of the e-mail message. Do you mean they receive a single message from the list which is From: both the list and the poster? If so, this is a cPanel issue which we can't help with. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/sYA9. If on the other hand, you mean they receive two messages, one from the list which is From: the list and one From: the poster, perhaps the poster is including some list members in a CC or BCC, or this could also be a cPanel issue. In order to say more, we'd have to see the complete headers of both messages. -- They receive two messages, one from the list and one from the poster. Here is the header from the poster: Received: (qmail 11320 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2009 20:44:06 - Received: from unknown (HELO m1pismtp01-023.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) ([10.8.12.26]) (envelope-sender angela.ev...@bt.com) by smtp26-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (qmail-1.03) with SMTP for t...@ramruva.com; 8 Dec 2009 20:44:06 - Received: from a2s47.a2hosting.com ([216.119.128.130]) by m1pismtp01-023.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 13:44:05 -0700 Received: from smtp1.smtp.bt.com ([217.32.164.137]) by a2s47.a2hosting.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from angela.ev...@bt.com) id 1NI6uh-0004QP-Sv; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:44:04 -0500 Received: from E03MVC4-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net ([193.113.197.116]) by smtp1.smtp.bt.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:43:58 + X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type=multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01CA7847.2AAEA169 Subject: [LSPTA Bulletin 22] Lincoln News- Holiday Boutique Countdown Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:46:39 - Message-ID: 6a375f4747f4b14eb41af6728c452aff05802...@e03mvc4-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LSPTA Bulletin 22] Lincoln News- Holiday Boutique Countdown Thread-Index: Acp4R4oMftaqBO0+T/+5kewhonrw5w== From: angela.ev...@bt.com To: bulletin-edi...@lincolnschoolpta.net, bulle...@lincolnschoolpta.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2009 20:43:58.0913 (UTC) FILETIME=[2AC64B10:01CA7847] X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s47.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lincolnschoolpta.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bt.com X-Nonspam: Whitelist Here is the header from the list: Received: (qmail 22283 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2009 20:44:25 - Received: from unknown (HELO p3pismtp01-026.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) ([10.6.12.31]) (envelope-sender bulletin-boun...@lincolnschoolpta.net) by smtp29.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (qmail-1.03) with SMTP for t...@ramruva.com; 8 Dec 2009 20:44:25 - Received: from vms169129pub.verizon.net ([206.46.169.129]) by p3pismtp01-026.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 13:44:24 -0700 Received: from a2s47.a2hosting.com ([216.119.128.130]) by vms169129.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTP id 0kuc00bzoplqa...@vms169129.mailsrvcs.net for t...@ramruva.com (ORCPT tj.sherl...@verizon.net); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:44:19 -0600 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [216.119.128.130] Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=a2s47.a2hosting.com) by a2s47.a2hosting.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from bulletin-boun...@lincolnschoolpta.net) id 1NI6uj-0004So-C7; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:44:05 -0500 Received: from smtp1.smtp.bt.com ([217.32.164.137]) by a2s47.a2hosting.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from angela.ev...@bt.com) id 1NI6uh-0004QP-Sv; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:44:04 -0500 Received: from E03MVC4-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net ([193.113.197.116]) by smtp1.smtp.bt.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:43:58 + X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:46:39 + Message-id: 6a375f4747f4b14eb41af6728c452aff05802...@e03mvc4-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-topic: [LSPTA Bulletin 22] Lincoln News- Holiday Boutique Countdown Thread-index: Acp4R4oMftaqBO0+T/+5kewhonrw5w== To: bulletin-edi...@lincolnschoolpta.net, bulle...@lincolnschoolpta.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2009 20:43:58.0913 (UTC)
[Mailman-Users] listserv question
Hello, I am wondering if you could help me with a problem I am having regarding a list serv that has recently been set up. It seems as though some members of the group are receiving a very messy post (ie., characters do not all turn out and spaces are missing). This, of course, is making it difficult for our members to read. Some members however are receiving the message as it was sent (no problems). When I compose the messages, I am careful to take all the formatting out (using word) and then paste the unformatted announcement in my email (novell email). Perhaps you could offer a few suggestions. Would it be better, for example, for me to use g-mail to send out the messages? Many thanks for all your help. Carolyn Carolyn Vander Schee, Ph.D. Northern Illinois University DeKalb, IL 60115 cvand...@niu.edu (815) 753-9340 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member unable to post to list
TomSherlock wrote: Mark Sapiro-3 wrote: TomSherlock wrote: With Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 I received the following message for a message posted by a member of the list: Post by non-member to a members-only list Any ideas? The address the poster sent the message from was not identical (except for case) to the poster's subscribed address. E.g. u...@example.com vs. u...@mail.example.com or u...@gmail.com vs. u...@googlemail.com. This may or may not be the case. The post was sent from subscribed-u...@example.com. This e-mail address subscribed-u...@example.com is subscribed to the mailing list. However, I did sent the e-mail out of the webmail account of m...@my-personal-domain.com, which allows me to change the value of the FROM field to subscribed-u...@example.com, a different domain. In standard GNU Mailman with defaults as shipped, a post is considered to be from a member if any of the From: header, the envelope sender, the Reply-To: header if any or the Sender: header contains a member address. If that's not what's happening in your case, see the Mailman cPanel FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/sYA9 and/or contact whoever hosts your Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't hide sender of message
TomSherlock wrote: They receive two messages, one from the list and one from the poster. Here is the header from the poster: Received: (qmail 11320 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2009 20:44:06 - Received: from unknown (HELO m1pismtp01-023.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) ([10.8.12.26]) (envelope-sender angela.ev...@bt.com) by smtp26-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (qmail-1.03) with SMTP for t...@ramruva.com; 8 Dec 2009 20:44:06 - Received: from a2s47.a2hosting.com ([216.119.128.130]) by m1pismtp01-023.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 13:44:05 -0700 Received: from smtp1.smtp.bt.com ([217.32.164.137]) by a2s47.a2hosting.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from angela.ev...@bt.com) id 1NI6uh-0004QP-Sv; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:44:04 -0500 Received: from E03MVC4-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net ([193.113.197.116]) by smtp1.smtp.bt.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:43:58 + X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type=multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01CA7847.2AAEA169 Subject: [LSPTA Bulletin 22] Lincoln News- Holiday Boutique Countdown Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:46:39 - Message-ID: 6a375f4747f4b14eb41af6728c452aff05802...@e03mvc4-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LSPTA Bulletin 22] Lincoln News- Holiday Boutique Countdown Thread-Index: Acp4R4oMftaqBO0+T/+5kewhonrw5w== From: angela.ev...@bt.com To: bulletin-edi...@lincolnschoolpta.net, bulle...@lincolnschoolpta.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2009 20:43:58.0913 (UTC) FILETIME=[2AC64B10:01CA7847] X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s47.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lincolnschoolpta.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bt.com X-Nonspam: Whitelist Please two things about the above message. It contains no Mailman headers of any kind indicating it didn't come from a Mailman list. It is addressed To: bulletin-edi...@lincolnschoolpta.net, bulle...@lincolnschoolpta.net Would bulletin-edi...@lincolnschoolpta.net be an alias for you? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't hide sender of message
TomSherlock writes: They receive two messages, one from the list and one from the poster. Here is the header from the poster: Cutting to the chase, from poster, the (relevant, edited) headers are: Received: from a2s47 by m1pismtp01-023 Received: from smtp1 by a2s47 From list: Received: from vms169129pub by p3pismtp01-026 Received: from a2s47 by vms169129 for t...@ramruva.com (ORCPT tj.sherlock) Received: from localhost by a2s47 Received: from smtp1 by a2s47 First, note the from localhost entry in the second series. This means that Mailman is reinjecting the message on the same host. It doesn't appear in the first series; Mailman did *not* handle that message, it was relayed *directly to you* by the MTA at a2s47. Second, apparently the list knows you as tj.sherlock at verizon, but it's likely the direct mail was originally addressed to tom at ramruva. I would guess that the sender is BCC'ing you (perhaps to help you identify any problems?) It's hard to say because I don't know Microsoft Exchange, but it is quite possible that the mail from the sender's host is going to multiple recipients (ie, other than the list) at the point where her MUA injects it. If there were a single message to the list only, the first MTA in the chain will often have a for mailing-list clause in the Received header. Its absence doesn't prove anything, but certainly leaves open the possibility of multiple recipients. A lower probability is that there's a rule or alias at a2s47's MTA that BCCs you on list mail, again for debugging purposes. (Coincidentally, yesterday I implemented exactly that feature using the same MTA (Exim 4) for a list I run, although the purpose was different. It's just one line in /etc/aliases.) As unlikely as that seems, based on the Received chain posted, I would say a problem with Mailman is even less likely. I just don't see how Mailman could be involved with the direct mail. I'm sorry we can't find a Mailman issue here, in the sense that we could help you with that. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't hide sender of message
On 9-Dec-2009, at 09:01, TomSherlock wrote: They receive two messages, one from the list and one from the poster. So you are trying to figure out how Mailman can prevent a third party from mailing a third party? -- The older you get the more you need the people you knew when you were young. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] listserv question
Carolyn Vander Schee wrote: I am wondering if you could help me with a problem I am having regarding a list serv that has recently been set up. If you are really asking about a Listserv(r) list, you've come to the wrong place. rant I know that use of Listserv(r) as a generic term to refer to an email list or email list management software is ubiquitious, and I'm just pissing in the wind to fight it, but Listserv(r) is a registered trademark[1] owned by the developer of a particular email list management product, and it shouldn't be used generically. My personal interest in this is not to protect the Listserv(r) trademark, but rather to avoid confusing Listserv(r) email list management software with any other email list management software including GNU Mailman of which I am a developer. [1] http://www.lsoft.com/corporate/trademark.asp /rant It seems as though some members of the group are receiving a very messy post (ie., characters do not all turn out and spaces are missing). This, of course, is making it difficult for our members to read. Some members however are receiving the message as it was sent (no problems). When I compose the messages, I am careful to take all the formatting out (using word) and then paste the unformatted announcement in my email (novell email). Perhaps you could offer a few suggestions. Would it be better, for example, for me to use g-mail to send out the messages? It is very difficult to know what might be happening without seeing a sample raw message including all headers and MIME parts. What I am guessing is happening is your novell email is composing a multipart/alternative message with text/plain and text/html alternative parts. Some clients will actually create an HTML message as you type, paste, etc. and then convert that HTML to plain text for the text/plain part and some are notoriously bad at converting the HTML to plain text. This could be happening in your case such that the text/html part is a fairly faithful representation of what you entered and the text/plain alternative is somewhat garbled. Then those users whose mail readers display the html part see what you entered and others whose mail readers display the plain text part see the garbled message. As I said though, this is only a guess, but I can say that if this is in fact a Mailman list, all regular (non-digest) members are receiving the same message. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
