Re: [Mailman-Users] Settings for reply to all

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Welch wrote:

>Hello friends. Is there a setting in Mailman that makes it possible for a 
>"Reply to All" to pick up the From: address?


Yes. Set reply_goes_to_list to Poster so that "reply" goes to the From:
or the poster's Reply-To: and "Reply to All" adds the list from the
To: or Cc:.

But I suspect that is not what you want. I suspect you want "reply" to
go to the list so you have set reply_goes_to_list to This list. This
adds a Reply-To: header to delivered posts with the list posting
address. According to RFC 5322 and it's predecessors, RFCs 822 and
2822, Reply-To: specifies the address(es) to which replies should be
sent in lieu of the default From:. Most MUAs in generating a reply
will assume that Reply-To: overrides From so if there is a Reply-To:,
they will use the Reply-To: addresses for "replt" and "reply all" and
ignore the From:.

I suspect there are MUAs that will include the From: address(es) in
"reply all" recipients even when a Reply-To: is present, but this is
dependent on the MUA, and is arguably not the right thing to do.

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[Mailman-Users] Settings for reply to all

2010-06-13 Thread Michael Welch
Hello friends. Is there a setting in Mailman that makes it possible for a 
"Reply to All" to pick up the From: address?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest not working on Mac 10.3.6 running mailman2.1.4

2010-06-13 Thread John W. Baxter



On 6/11/10 6:51 AM, "Mark Sapiro"  wrote:

> Bob Bader wrote:
> 
>> I still have a Macintosh 10.3.9 server running the default mailman  (version
>> 2.1.4) for mail lists.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We have noticed digests have stopped working, I can send them manually, or if
>> I set the trigger size to 0 they go. If I run the command  /usr/bin/python -S
>> /usr/share/mailman/cron/senddigests   That also works.
>> 
>> I suspect it has something to do with cron.
>> 
>> 
>> I look in the file /usr/share/mailman/cron/crontab.in   and it all  looks
>> good.
>> 
>> 
>> Is there is setting for  mailman in the Mac's crontab?
> 
> 
> No. crond normally looks at the system crontab /etc/crontab and all the
> user crontabs in /var/spool/cron/* (or in Mac OS X 10.6 at least,
> /usr/lib/cron/tabs/*). It doesn't look at
> /usr/share/mailman/cron/crontab.in which is the input intended to be
> installed in /usr/lib/cron/tabs/ by a command like
> 
>   crontab -u _mailman /usr/share/mailman/cron/crontab.in
> 
> (assuming the Mailman user is _mailman).  See 'man crontab' and 'man
> cron'.
> 
> 
> Since Mailman's cron jobs used to run, I suspect the issue is that
> crond is not running on your server. It's either that or Mailman's
> crontab has gone missing. If
> 
>  crontab -u_mailman -l
> 
> shows Mailman's crontab, then crond is not running. How to fix that is
> a Mac OS X question.

On my Mac OS X 10.6.3 system, crond is not running, but cron is. The man
page for cron makes it look like crond by the shorter name. This is 10.6.3
client, not server (and I don't run Mailman on it).

A quick test suggests that cron acts like crond.

* * * * * /bin/date >> /tmp/dates

(Which I think I'll turn off now.)

It produced:
cat /tmp/dates
Sun Jun 13 09:10:00 PDT 2010
Sun Jun 13 09:11:00 PDT 2010

  --John


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe in Footer - was: How delete attechment file ATT00xxx.txt ?

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
westernz wrote:
>
>Do you know how say in footer (now i want a footer... tsss...) to be
>unregistred clic here.
>And have an url where the membre of list will ne desctived from the list.
>Not deleted (because i maybe will add it a new time later by error), only
>descatived after gone to the gave url.


If your list is confirmed opt-in (invite rather than subscribe users
and require confirmation for subscription) you won't have to worry
about adding people who don't want to be on your list. If you are
potentially adding people to your list who have previously
unsubscribed without a specific request from the user to be
resubscribed, you are a spammer.

If your list is personalized, you can do as this list does and have a
link to the user options page as an unsubscribe link by putting

Unsubscribe: %(user_optionsurl)s

in the footer,

Do do anything close to what you want you would need to construct a
line like

Unsubscribe: http://example.com/your_cgi/%(user_address)s

perhaps also including %(list_name)s, and your cgi would have to
collect and remember the addresses and do the unsubscribing or
possibly set the user to no-mail and turn off her password reminders.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list not sending to members

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dennis V wrote:

>Further to my investigation, instead of mass subscribing 150 email
>addresses, I just only subscribed about 60 or so email addresses and the
>mail listing worked.
>
>Does that mean there is some sort of "hard" cap on the mailman program? I am
>using 2.1.12cp3


There is a limit, but it is not imposed by Mailman. It is imposed
either intentionally or via misconfiguration by your hosting service's
mail system.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how do I access the unsubscribe email addresses?

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dan Sherbondy wrote:

>Where are unsubscribe email addresses stored? also, same with the
>bounced email addresses. Where are they?


No mail to any Mailman addresses is "stored" in the conventional sense.

For an MTA that uses aliases, each list has a set of aliases like

list: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman post list"
list-admin:   "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman admin list"
list-bounces: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list"
list-confirm: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman confirm list"
list-join:"|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman join list"
list-leave:   "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman leave list"
list-owner:   "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman owner list"
list-request: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman request list"
list-subscribe:   "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list"
list-unsubscribe: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe list"

Which causes the mail to be piped to the mail/mailman wrapper and
processed by the appropriate (post, admin, bounces, etc.) script. The
script in turn queues the message for further processing. For example,
posts and -owner mail is queued in Mailman's in/ queue for processing
by IncomingRunner; -admin and -bounces mail is queued in Mailman's
bounces/ queue for processing by BounceRunner, and -join, -leave,
-subscribe, -unsubscribe, -confirm and -request mail is queued in
Mailman's commands/ queue for processing by CommandRunner.

Some MTAs do this programmatically instead of with aliases, but the
result is the same.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How delete attechment file ATT00xxx.txt ?

2010-06-13 Thread westernz

Thanks, I asked it to my provider.
I hope they will agree to open it.
Have a nice day



Mark Sapiro-3 wrote:
> 
> westernz wrote:
>>
>>But, an other problem :
>>
>>How change the "to:"
>>That says to: "mail liste name"
>>I need to have to: "client email listed"
> 
> 
> Set Non-digest options -> personalize to 'Full Personalization'
> 
> If the personalize settings do not appear on your Non-digest options
> page, you will have to convince the administrator of your Mailman
> installation to add
> 
> OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes
> 
> to mm_cfg.py.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list not sending to members

2010-06-13 Thread Dennis V
Further to my investigation, instead of mass subscribing 150 email
addresses, I just only subscribed about 60 or so email addresses and the
mail listing worked.

Does that mean there is some sort of "hard" cap on the mailman program? I am
using 2.1.12cp3

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Dennis V  wrote:

> Hi everyone!!
>
> A problem I came up with is that when I was playing around with about 5
> members on the list I was able to send out an email and the recipients were
> able to receive them too.
>
> However, when I added extra emails via "mass subscription" (approximately
> 150 from an old emailing list) nothing would happen afterwards when I try to
> send off an email. Basically, I send off an email to the mailing list
> address but the recipients won't receive anything at all, not even the
> initial 5 addresses that were working previously.
>
> The only thing that has changed is that I've initially had 5 members which
> had no problem but as soon as I added the 150 the recipients the problem
> started.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
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[Mailman-Users] Mailing list not sending to members

2010-06-13 Thread Dennis V
Hi everyone!!

A problem I came up with is that when I was playing around with about 5
members on the list I was able to send out an email and the recipients were
able to receive them too.

However, when I added extra emails via "mass subscription" (approximately
150 from an old emailing list) nothing would happen afterwards when I try to
send off an email. Basically, I send off an email to the mailing list
address but the recipients won't receive anything at all, not even the
initial 5 addresses that were working previously.

The only thing that has changed is that I've initially had 5 members which
had no problem but as soon as I added the 150 the recipients the problem
started.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
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[Mailman-Users] how do I access the unsubscribe email addresses?

2010-06-13 Thread Dan Sherbondy
Where are unsubscribe email addresses stored? also, same with the
bounced email addresses. Where are they?
 
Thanks,

Dan
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