Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

2010-11-13 Thread Andre van Kan
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 07:48 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:

  I understand that, but the data/heldmsg* file could have been removed
  external to Mailman before that.
  
  I never found any heldmsg* on the system, nor any complaint
  that such a file could not be written. Maybe could an strace of
  the appropriate qrunner be of some help?

I should have firstly explained the consistency of our recently
installed mailsystem: three separate IP-clusters (!) cooperate to 
handle our e-mail and except for MM they perform very well.
(btw, it was designed and installed by an external party)

 - cluster 1: runs the MTA (Postfix) and MM
 - cluster 2: runs Horde and the MM-webinterface
 - cluster 3: runs Cyrus-imapd

Cluster 1 and 2 share - via NFS - the MM-lists etc. I found out however
that data/heldms* was only available on cluster 1. 
From the moment that I shared this directory between cluster 1 and 2 the
approved messages were visible with the admin webinterface and approving
resulted in a transfer of the messages to cluster2:/var/spool/mailman/in
and are waiting there for the things to come. 
So the problem is partly solved, albeit that the messages still are not
delivered, supposedly because cluster 1 should be able to transfer the
messages to cluster 3, the IMAP-server (?). 
So I want to share the directory cluster2:/var/spool/mailman/in with
cluster 1 since this cluster is configured to send the messages to the
IMAP-server. 
Does this sound reasonable to you, or should cluster 2 itself better be
configured to send the approved messages to the IMAP-server directly?

Thank you for your time and useful hints c.

Regards,

  Andre van Kan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

2010-11-13 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 01:12:18PM +0100, Andre van Kan wrote:
  - cluster 1: runs the MTA (Postfix) and MM
  - cluster 2: runs Horde and the MM-webinterface
  - cluster 3: runs Cyrus-imapd
 
 Cluster 1 and 2 share - via NFS - the MM-lists etc. I found out however
 that data/heldms* was only available on cluster 1. 
 From the moment that I shared this directory between cluster 1 and 2 the
 approved messages were visible with the admin webinterface and approving
 resulted in a transfer of the messages to cluster2:/var/spool/mailman/in
 and are waiting there for the things to come. 
 So the problem is partly solved, albeit that the messages still are not
 delivered, supposedly because cluster 1 should be able to transfer the
 messages to cluster 3, the IMAP-server (?). 

Why on earth are you adding in IMAP at this stage? Mailman is designed
to deliver via a pipe, to the scripts. I believe that's the case, even
with Postfix.

 So I want to share the directory cluster2:/var/spool/mailman/in with
 cluster 1 since this cluster is configured to send the messages to the
 IMAP-server. 

I suspect that that's a completely wrong approach.

 Does this sound reasonable to you, or should cluster 2 itself better be

's/2/1/'

 configured to send the approved messages to the IMAP-server directly?

's/to the IMAP-server//'

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