Re: [Mailman-Users] *list*-manager getting mail

[Mark Sapiro]

On 3/24/2011 2:41 PM, Raven wrote:
> Hi all.
> I run a mailman installation with a couple hundreds users and since last 
> system update (Debian mailman_2.1.13-4.1_i386), I am getting a copy of all 
> messages in the "*list*-mana...@domain.com" mailbox.
> No settings have been changed in ages so I'm wondering why this is happening.
> Any clues?


Please see the reply at

to your virtually identical post from last month.

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[Mailman-Users] *list*-manager getting mail

[Raven]

Hi all.
I run a mailman installation with a couple hundreds users and since last system 
update (Debian mailman_2.1.13-4.1_i386), I am getting a copy of all messages in 
the "*list*-mana...@domain.com" mailbox.
No settings have been changed in ages so I'm wondering why this is happening.
Any clues?

-RV




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Run mailman web interface as another user

[Mark Sapiro]

Néstor Díaz Valencia wrote:
>
>I think this may have show up several times, but it looks like I can't
>find a definitive reason why Mailman web interface cannot be run as
>another user, other than www-data.
>
>In this case is an Ubuntu system 10.04 and we are deploying a server
>where each host is inside a user, apache is serving the host with that
>user identity and a proxy properly redirects requests.
>
>So, mailman web interface should be served by apache as user "mymailman"
>and scripts reports that is not possible we must use "www-data".



You are encountering a group mismatch error. See the FAQ at
 for a more detailed explanation.

Basically, The Mailman CGI web interface makes use of compiled binary
wrappers in Mailman's cgi-bin directory which are group 'mailman' and
SETGID so that the various CGI scripts run with effective group
mailman. As a security measure, these wrappers are compiled to expect
to be invoked by a process with a specific group id, in your case
www-data, and will not run if invoked with a different group.

If you install Mailman from source, you can set the expected group with
the --with-cgi-gid= option to configure. Debian/Ubuntu may or may not
provide a package specific way to do this for their Mailman package.

The bottom line is for a single set of Mailman cgi-bin wrappers, they
must always be invoked as the same group, but for standard GNU Mailman
at least, that can be any group you want.

One possible workaround for you is to set the primary group for your
"mymailman" user(s) to www-data.

If your "hosts" all have their own Mailman installation or at least
their own set of cgi-bin wrappers, you should be able to get the
wrappers to accept whatever group you want, but I don't know
specifically how this would be done in the Debian/Ubuntu package.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest E-Mails with umlauts

[Mark Sapiro]

On 3/23/2011 4:44 PM, Kyle Pinkley wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I am using Mailman 2.1.14.   It seems that when I send an E-Mail with
> digest mode on containing umlauts (ä, ü, and ö) it's sending the
> E-Mail with ?, ? and ? instead.   If I turn off digest mode and send
> the E-Mail the E-Mail contains the umlauts.Is this a known issue
> that warrants a bug report?   Is there any workarounds?


This is well known. It is not a bug. The list's language is English
(USA) and Mailman's character set for that language is us-ascii. The
plain format digest is flattened into a single text/plain part in the
character set of the list language.

There are a few ways around this.

Subscribe to the MIME format digest instead of the plain digest. This
digest puts each message into it's own MIME part and there is no need to
convert text to a different character set, or

If appropriate, set the list's language to one whose character set
includes the characters you want, e.g. German whose character set in
Mailman is iso-8859-1, but this will affect masthead of the digest and
the language of the web interface so may not be appropriate, or

Set Mailman's character set for English (USA) to iso-8859-1 or utf-8.
This works because those are both supersets of us-ascii so ascii
messages and templates will still work without recoding. To do this, put
either

add_language('en', 'English (USA)', 'utf-8', 'ltr')

or

add_language('en', 'English (USA)', 'iso-8859-1', 'ltr')

in mm_cfg.py

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Neither the list admin or moderator getting notications on new susbriptions

[Rob Tanner]

On 3/23/11 6:54 PM, "Mark Sapiro"  wrote:

> On 3/23/2011 5:04 PM, Rob Tanner wrote:
>> 
>> That I'm aware of.  I subscribed myself via my personal email to avoid any
>> confusion with me as a list admin.  My request did not appear as a pending
>> subscription request until after I clicked the link on the confirmation
>> email.  At that point an email notifying me of a pending request should have
>> been sent to my list admin email address.  No such message was sent, and
>> that's the problem.
> 
> 
> Are other notices from Mailman being sent such as the list welcome
> message to a new subscriber?
> 
> If not, perhaps VirginRunner is not running? Do you have enough access
> to the server to verify that and/or to see Mailman's logs?
> 
> If you send an email to listname-owner@... does it get delivered to the
> admins? If not, does it bounce?

I was able to access the mailman logs and the whole things turns out to have
been an aliasing problem and not a mailman issue.  Works perfect now.


Thanks,
Rob
 


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[Mailman-Users] Run mailman web interface as another user

[Néstor Díaz Valencia]

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Hi,

I think this may have show up several times, but it looks like I can't
find a definitive reason why Mailman web interface cannot be run as
another user, other than www-data.

In this case is an Ubuntu system 10.04 and we are deploying a server
where each host is inside a user, apache is serving the host with that
user identity and a proxy properly redirects requests.

So, mailman web interface should be served by apache as user "mymailman"
and scripts reports that is not possible we must use "www-data".

Anybody in the same situation?

Thanks in advance,
Néstor
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[Mailman-Users] Digest E-Mails with umlauts

[Kyle Pinkley]

Greetings,

I am using Mailman 2.1.14.   It seems that when I send an E-Mail with digest 
mode on containing umlauts (ä, ü, and ö) it's sending the E-Mail with ?, ? and 
? instead.   If I turn off digest mode and send the E-Mail the E-Mail contains 
the umlauts.Is this a known issue that warrants a bug report?   Is there 
any workarounds?

Thanks in advance!
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