Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating content to a new list

2011-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/15/2011 1:48 PM, Rob wrote:
> 
> We have just created a new list in Mailman 2.1.14 to handle a
> specific set of discussions that were previously taking place on
> another list hosted on the same server. The membership of the new
> list is much broader than the old list, so many of its members have
> had no exposure to the recent discussions. Is there a way that I can
> use the archives of 'oldlist' and send out the past month's worth of
> discussions to 'newlist' so that the members are all up to date on
> the recent conversations?
> 
> It's not feasible to just make the archives public because not all of
> the content is pertinent to all the members of 'newlist'.


I think there are two ways to handle this. Both involve making a copy of
archives/private/oldlist.mbox/oldlist.mbox and editing it (or perhaps
opening it with mutt or similar) and deleting those messages you don't
want available on newlist. So you end up with a mailbox with only those
posts you want available to newlist.

Then, if there haven't yet been any posts to newlist, just save that
mailbox as archives/private/newlist.mbox/newlist.mbox making sure it's
group is the mailman group, and run 'bin/arch --wipe newlist' to seed
the newlist archive with the old posts. Or, if there have been posts to
newlist, combine the mailbox with
archives/private/newlist.mbox/newlist.mbox and run 'bin/arch --wipe
newlist' to add those posts to the newlist archive.

If you want the newlist members to receive the posts by email, you can
instead remail (bounce in mutt terms) the messages in the mailbox to
newlist which will send them to the members and archive them. Before
doing that, you might want to set oldlist in Privacy options... ->
Recipient filters -> acceptable_aliases of newlist so the bounced posts
won't be held.

-- 
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org


[Mailman-Users] Migrating content to a new list

2011-07-15 Thread Rob
Hi,

We have just created a new list in Mailman 2.1.14 to handle a specific set of 
discussions that were previously taking place on another list hosted on the 
same server. The membership of the new list is much broader than the old list, 
so many of its members have had no exposure to the recent discussions. Is there 
a way that I can use the archives of 'oldlist' and send out the past month's 
worth of discussions to 'newlist' so that the members are all up to date on the 
recent conversations? 

It's not feasible to just make the archives public because not all of the 
content is pertinent to all the members of 'newlist'.

Thanks,

-Rob
--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org


Re: [Mailman-Users] Message approval by mail

2011-07-15 Thread Rob
> 
> 
>>> From: xservetestlist-requ...@acvr.org
>>> Date: July 15, 2011 10:02:09 AM EDT
>>> Subject: confirm dda15190a0e5ffa59d0894b92f7a9efface6b70b
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact,
>>> Mailman will discard the held message.  Do this if the message is
>>> spam.  If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header
>>> with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting
>>> to the list.  The Approved: header can also appear in the first line
>>> of the body of the reply.
> 
> 
> You need to reply to the above attached message. Depending on your MUA,
> you may be able to open this as a separate message and reply to it. If
> you can't do this, you have to just compose a message
> 
> To: xservetestlist-requ...@acvr.org
> 
> with
> 
> Subject: confirm dda15190a0e5ffa59d0894b92f7a9efface6b70b
> 
> containing the Approved: ... line to accept the post or without the
> Approved: ... line to discard it.

OK, now I understand. Apple Mail just displays the entire message together, not 
as separate parts. 

I can't reply directly but clicking the list-email address and just 
copy/pasting the subject works just as well. 

Thanks!

-Rob
--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org


Re: [Mailman-Users] Message approval by mail

2011-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Rob wrote:

>I am trying to use the option to approve moderated messages using the 'reply' 
>feature but it doesn't seem to work for me. I add the Approved: 
>header to my reply as the first line in the body, but the message simply 
>arrives back in my inbox unmodified, and the moderated message stays in the 
>queue until I approve it with the web interface. Running v2.1.14
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Rob
>
>An example of an outgoing 'approval' message is below:
>
>Return-Path: 
>Received: from murder ([unix socket])
>by acvr.org (Cyrus v2.3.8-OS X Server 10.5:9G7013y) with LMTPA;
>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:46 -0400
>X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
>Received: from xserve.petrad.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>   by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE73783962E
>   for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:46 -0400 (EDT)
>X-Original-To: xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org
>Delivered-To: xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org
>Received: from [192.168.42.17] (office.petrad.com [173.12.22.82])
>   by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DE7839623
>   for ;
>   Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:45 -0400 (EDT)
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084)
>Subject: Xservetestlist post from mcl...@petrad.com requires approval
>From: "Robert C. McLear, ACVR Treasurer" 
>In-Reply-To: 
>Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:45 -0400
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Message-Id: 
>References: 
>To: xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org
>X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084)
>Errors-To: mailman-boun...@acvr.org
>Sender: mailman-boun...@acvr.org
>
>Approved:


Your problem is you are replying to the held message notice itself so
your reply is sent to xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org with Subject:
Xservetestlist post from mcl...@petrad.com requires approval. That
reply is just sent back to the list owner.

The message to which you replied is a multipart message with 3 parts.
The part below is an attached message/rfc822 part.


>> From: xservetestlist-requ...@acvr.org
>> Date: July 15, 2011 10:02:09 AM EDT
>> Subject: confirm dda15190a0e5ffa59d0894b92f7a9efface6b70b
>> 
>> 
>> If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact,
>> Mailman will discard the held message.  Do this if the message is
>> spam.  If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header
>> with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting
>> to the list.  The Approved: header can also appear in the first line
>> of the body of the reply.


You need to reply to the above attached message. Depending on your MUA,
you may be able to open this as a separate message and reply to it. If
you can't do this, you have to just compose a message

To: xservetestlist-requ...@acvr.org

with

Subject: confirm dda15190a0e5ffa59d0894b92f7a9efface6b70b

containing the Approved: ... line to accept the post or without the
Approved: ... line to discard it.

-- 
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org


[Mailman-Users] Message approval by mail

2011-07-15 Thread Rob
I am trying to use the option to approve moderated messages using the 'reply' 
feature but it doesn't seem to work for me. I add the Approved: 
header to my reply as the first line in the body, but the message simply 
arrives back in my inbox unmodified, and the moderated message stays in the 
queue until I approve it with the web interface. Running v2.1.14

Thanks,

-Rob

An example of an outgoing 'approval' message is below:

Return-Path: 
Received: from murder ([unix socket])
 by acvr.org (Cyrus v2.3.8-OS X Server 10.5:9G7013y) with LMTPA;
 Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:46 -0400
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
Received: from xserve.petrad.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE73783962E
for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:46 -0400 (EDT)
X-Original-To: xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org
Delivered-To: xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org
Received: from [192.168.42.17] (office.petrad.com [173.12.22.82])
by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DE7839623
for ;
Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:45 -0400 (EDT)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084)
Subject: Xservetestlist post from mcl...@petrad.com requires approval
From: "Robert C. McLear, ACVR Treasurer" 
In-Reply-To: 
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:45 -0400
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-Id: 
References: 
To: xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084)
Errors-To: mailman-boun...@acvr.org
Sender: mailman-boun...@acvr.org

Approved:
On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:02 AM, xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org wrote:

> As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
> following mailing list posting:
> 
>   List:xservetestl...@acvr.org
>   From:mcl...@petrad.com
>   Subject: test
>   Reason:  Post to moderated list
> 
> At your convenience, visit:
> 
>   http://www.acvr.org/mailman/admindb/xservetestlist
> 
> to approve or deny the request.
> 
> From: Robert McLear 
> Date: July 15, 2011 10:02:02 AM EDT
> To: xservetestl...@acvr.org
> Subject: test
> 
> 
> test
> 
> 
> 
> From: xservetestlist-requ...@acvr.org
> Date: July 15, 2011 10:02:09 AM EDT
> Subject: confirm dda15190a0e5ffa59d0894b92f7a9efface6b70b
> 
> 
> If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact,
> Mailman will discard the held message.  Do this if the message is
> spam.  If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header
> with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting
> to the list.  The Approved: header can also appear in the first line
> of the body of the reply.
--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org