[Mailman-Users] Any quantity restrictions in who email command?

[Ulf Dunkel]

Hi Mark.

I try to grab the members from various of my mailing lists via the email 
interface, but two of them with more than 1,000 users each won't let 
Mailman reply on my "who " email to the relevant 
-request@mydomain account.


Are there any quantity restrictions I have overseen (or forgotten)?

Thanks in advance for your reply,
---Ulf Dunkel
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Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman to another server

[myron]

On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Ulf Dunkel wrote:


Hi Myron.

~mailman/bin/check_perms  is your friend, really.


Mark was right about the owner:group setting. Looks like I was  
combining fact with fiction.
I was making a lot of assumptions about what's on my system. Easy when  
you're not familiar with

the OS.

I think it's working now. When I run bin/check_perms I get 10 listed  
problems--all links.
I looked at some of the links and they are right. I assume the rest  
are too.


However, when I create a newlist, it is made with the same wrong  
permissions, but running
bin/check_perms doesn't report it. So, I'm guessing that all I need to  
do is set www-data:list

on the list whenever I create a new list.



When you're done fixing all permissions, run

~mailman/bin/unshunt


I am almost done with the same stuff - once again.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman problem with exim

[Lorenzo Coronati]

hi all
I'm trying to make mailman work with exim (on a centos server) but I'm 
facing a problem:
when a subscriber posts a message, it isn't forwarded to the other 
subscribers, and no error message is sent back to the sender

this is what I find in the /var/log/exim/main.log:

2011-07-28 09:01:50 1QmKbO-0004h7-NS <= lore...@coronati.com 
H=adsl-ull-193-191.49-151.net24.it ([192.168.0.207]) [151.49.191.193] 
P=esmtpa A=plain_login:lore...@coronati.com S=644 
id=4e310960.6050...@coronati.com T="provo io"
2011-07-28 09:01:50 1QmKbO-0004h7-NS Failed to find group "" from 
expanded string "${lookup mysql{select users.gid from users,domains 
where localpart = '${quote_mysql:$local_part}' and domain = 
'${quote_mysql:$domain}' and users.domain_id = domains.domain_id}}" for 
the address_pipe transport
2011-07-28 09:01:50 1QmKbO-0004h7-NS == |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman 
post mailinglistaips  R=system_aliases 
T=address_pipe defer (-28): Failed to find group "" from expanded string 
"${lookup mysql{select users.gid from users,domains where localpart = 
'${quote_mysql:$local_part}' and domain = '${quote_mysql:$domain}' and 
users.domain_id = domains.domain_id}}" for the address_pipe transport


what I understand is that exim (which is configured to manage the email 
addresses stored in a mysql database) tries to expand the mailing list 
looking for subscribers via sql, instead of letting mailman to do this

am I right?
and then, what do I have to do to fix this?

thanks in advance
lorenzo

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Announce] wiki.list.org license has been renewed

[Bradley Dean]

Hi folks,

On 29/07/11 04:56, Barry Warsaw wrote:

I haven't heard much about the Moin conversion lately, but hopefully that will
happen before the next time our license runs out.


Still working through it - sorry it's taking longer than hoped but the 
confluence XML is, well, interesting:


 * http://lists.bjdean.id.au/pipermail/mmwiki/2011q3/67.html
 * http://lists.bjdean.id.au/pipermail/mmwiki/2011q3/68.html
 * 
http://moinmo.in/ConfluenceConverter/DevelopmentNotes/TransformProcess#Confluence_Dump_XML


We've also had a little less input from members of the assembled team. 
Now that I think I've got the XML structure pinned down I'll get stuck 
in to the content extraction and transformation.


Cheerio,

 Brad

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Any quantity restrictions in who email command?

[Mark Sapiro]

Ulf Dunkel wrote:
>
>I try to grab the members from various of my mailing lists via the email 
>interface, but two of them with more than 1,000 users each won't let 
>Mailman reply on my "who " email to the relevant 
>-request@mydomain account.
>
>Are there any quantity restrictions I have overseen (or forgotten)?


There are no built-in limits. Is there anything in Mailman's logs,
particularly error and qrunner?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman problem with exim

[Mark Sapiro]

Lorenzo Coronati wrote:
>
>what I understand is that exim (which is configured to manage the email 
>addresses stored in a mysql database) tries to expand the mailing list 
>looking for subscribers via sql, instead of letting mailman to do this
>am I right?
>and then, what do I have to do to fix this?


See  for the recommended way
to configure Exim with Mailman.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman to another server

[Mark Sapiro]

myron wrote:
>
>I think it's working now. When I run bin/check_perms I get 10 listed  
>problems--all links.
>I looked at some of the links and they are right. I assume the rest  
>are too.
>
>However, when I create a newlist, it is made with the same wrong  
>permissions, but running
>bin/check_perms doesn't report it. So, I'm guessing that all I need to  
>do is set www-data:list
>on the list whenever I create a new list.


Exactly which directories/files get incorrect owner:group? What exactly
is the incorrect owner:group? Is the superordinate directory group
'list' and SETGID?

Note that in general the owner is irrelevant but the group should
always be 'list'. The only place owner matters is on the single
directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/private and only if it is not o+x.
See the FAQ at  and the installation
manual at  for further
information.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman problem with exim

[Adam McGreggor]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 07:29:50AM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Lorenzo Coronati wrote:
> >
> >what I understand is that exim (which is configured to manage the email 
> >addresses stored in a mysql database) tries to expand the mailing list 
> >looking for subscribers via sql, instead of letting mailman to do this
> >am I right?
> >and then, what do I have to do to fix this?
> 
> 
> See  for the recommended way
> to configure Exim with Mailman.

And make sure your routers are ordered the way you wish them to have
precedence (read from the top)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman to another server

[myron]

On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:


myron wrote:


I think it's working now. When I run bin/check_perms I get 10 listed
problems--all links.
I looked at some of the links and they are right. I assume the rest
are too.

However, when I create a newlist, it is made with the same wrong
permissions, but running
bin/check_perms doesn't report it. So, I'm guessing that all I need  
to

do is set www-data:list
on the list whenever I create a new list.



Exactly which directories/files get incorrect owner:group? What  
exactly

is the incorrect owner:group? Is the superordinate directory group
'list' and SETGID?


root@errol:/var/lib/mailman/archives# ll
drwxrws--- 14 www-data list 4096 2011-07-29 10:48 private/
drwxrwsr-x  2 root list 4096 2011-07-29 10:48 public/



Note that in general the owner is irrelevant but the group should
always be 'list'. The only place owner matters is on the single
directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/private and only if it is not o+x.
See the FAQ at  and the installation
manual at  for further
information.


And it works. I tested it this time instead of just assuming. The  
archives appear for

both aaa and xxx lists. Thanks.

drwxrws--- 14 www-data list 4096 2011-07-29 10:48 ./
drwxrwsr-x  4 root list 4096 2011-07-20 10:38 ../
drwxrwsr-x  2 root list 4096 2011-07-29 10:48 aaa/
drwxrwsr-x  2 root list 4096 2011-07-29 10:48 aaa.mbox/
drwxrwsr-x  2 www-data list 4096 2011-07-20 10:39 mailman/
drwxrwsr-x  2 www-data list 4096 2011-07-20 10:39 mailman.mbox/
drwxrwsr-x  6 www-data list 4096 2011-07-28 03:27 xxx/
drwxrwsr-x  2 www-data list 4096 2011-07-27 15:34 xxx.mbox/




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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman problem with exim

[Lorenzo Coronati]

On 29/07/2011 16:29, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Lorenzo Coronati wrote:

what I understand is that exim (which is configured to manage the email
addresses stored in a mysql database) tries to expand the mailing list
looking for subscribers via sql, instead of letting mailman to do this
am I right?
and then, what do I have to do to fix this?


See  for the recommended way
to configure Exim with Mailman.



Thanks Mark,
I've read that page and followed the examples, but still I can't make 
things work.
I wonder if all instructions I've found are based on the assumption that 
exim works with real unix users...

Lorenzo

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman problem with exim

[Mark Sapiro]

Lorenzo Coronati wrote:
>
>Thanks Mark,
>I've read that page and followed the examples, but still I can't make 
>things work.
>I wonder if all instructions I've found are based on the assumption that 
>exim works with real unix users...
>Lorenzo


Check your exim logs. If your list mail is not using the
"mailman_router" router, you need to move that router closer to the
front of the routers section, at least ahead of the router it is
using. The "mailman_router" router uses the "mailman_transport"
transport, not the "address_pipe" transport in the messages in your OP.

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