Re: [Mailman-Users] Something is hiding Subject/Sender for Hotmail/MSNrecipients
ChuckPuckett wrote: > >This just started, but it may be result of change in Settings. I use Mailman >list primarily as an announcement service (of theatrical events in the >area). I myself receive the emails, once in my Hotmail account, once in my >Gmail account. I send the announcements from the Hotmail account. > >In the last month or so, I've noticed that when I receive the email in my >Hotmail account, the Subject says "(No Subject)" and the sender is >"(Unknown)". The Gmail receipt is fine: subject and sender are perfectly >visible. It is difficult to understand what the issue with any message would be that would allow Gmail to correctly display the Subject: and Sender: but Hotmail not. >I just ignored the problem until one of my patrons, using an MSN >(also Microsoft, so you can see where I'm heading with my suspicions) >reported the same phenomenon. > >My settings are hopefully set up so that members can only receive the >postings, there is no provision for anyone else posting to the list (it's >not a discussion forum) > >anonymous_list is set to NO >first_strip_reply_to set to YES >reply_goes_to_list is Explicit address (mine) Possibly you have a hard return at the end of your address in reply_to_address. I don't know offhand what this would produce in the generated Reply-To: header, but if it were some kind of encoded return, Hotmail might see it as the end of the headers and Gmail not. >subject_prefix is "[Theatre Happenings]" (don't see how this would affect, >just mentioning settings that seem at least potentially related) > >There may be other settings that are germane, happy to provide them. Or >maybe it's nothing in my Settings at all. > >Any help is appreciated. I would like to see the raw message as sent from Mailman. I don't think you can get this in Hotmail, but in Gmail, in the message view, near the top and to the right of the date and the swooping 'reply' arrow there is a down arrow for 'more'. Pull that down and click 'show original'. Then copy and paste all the headers - you can mung things for privacy if you wish, but try not to obscure anything that isn't simple text, and not particularly if there seem to be any blank lines. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Something is hiding Subject/Sender for Hotmail/MSN recipients
On 9/5/2012 11:28 AM, ChuckPuckett wrote: This just started, but it may be result of change in Settings. I use Mailman list primarily as an announcement service (of theatrical events in the area). I myself receive the emails, once in my Hotmail account, once in my Gmail account. I send the announcements from the Hotmail account. In the last month or so, I've noticed that when I receive the email in my Hotmail account, the Subject says "(No Subject)" and the sender is "(Unknown)". The Gmail receipt is fine: subject and sender are perfectly visible. I just ignored the problem until one of my patrons, using an MSN (also Microsoft, so you can see where I'm heading with my suspicions) reported the same phenomenon. My settings are hopefully set up so that members can only receive the postings, there is no provision for anyone else posting to the list (it's not a discussion forum) anonymous_list is set to NO first_strip_reply_to set to YES reply_goes_to_list is Explicit address (mine) subject_prefix is "[Theatre Happenings]" (don't see how this would affect, just mentioning settings that seem at least potentially related) There may be other settings that are germane, happy to provide them. Or maybe it's nothing in my Settings at all. Any help is appreciated. Chuck Puckett http://www.puckettpublishing.com http://www.puckettpublishing.com "I don't want to steal the show. I only want to borrow it for a while." I have never used Hotmail. Is there a way in Hotmail to see the entire "source" of the mail (i.e., the entire RFC 5321 headers)? Maybe Hotmail is misinterpreting the mail header lines or corrupting them. Thunderbird allows viewing the headers, as does Comcast mail. Those are the two with which I am familiar. --Barry Finkel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] 3.0.0b1 fails bootstrap.py on Mountain Lion
I'm installing Mailman for the first time, and chose to try the beta. I'm
installing on a Mountain Lion Server, that was cleanly installed. I've since
updated the OS to 10.8.1
I got as far as 'python bootstrap.py' and it failed immediately with the
following traceback:
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "bootstrap.py", line 157, in
import pkg_resources
File
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/../../Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py",
line 698, in
class Environment(object):
File
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/../../Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py",
line 701, in Environment
def __init__(self, search_path=None, platform=get_supported_platform(),
python=PY_MAJOR):
File
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/../../Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py",
line 99, in get_supported_platform
plat = 'macosx-%s-%s' % ('.'.join(_macosx_vers()[:2]), m.group(3))
File
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/../../Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py",
line 209, in _macosx_vers
_cache.append(mac_ver()[0].split('.'))
File
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/platform.py",
line 803, in mac_ver
File
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/platform.py",
line 780, in _mac_ver_xml
File
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plistlib.py",
line 78, in readPlist
File
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plistlib.py",
line 406, in parse
File
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plistlib.py",
line 418, in handleEndElement
File
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plistlib.py",
line 452, in end_key
File
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plistlib.py",
line 436, in getData
LookupError: unknown encoding: ascii
——
FWIW, I can open an interactive Python session and execute "import
pkg_resources" from the command line without error.
Any ideas?
Thanks—
Greg
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[Mailman-Users] Something is hiding Subject/Sender for Hotmail/MSN recipients
This just started, but it may be result of change in Settings. I use Mailman list primarily as an announcement service (of theatrical events in the area). I myself receive the emails, once in my Hotmail account, once in my Gmail account. I send the announcements from the Hotmail account. In the last month or so, I've noticed that when I receive the email in my Hotmail account, the Subject says "(No Subject)" and the sender is "(Unknown)". The Gmail receipt is fine: subject and sender are perfectly visible. I just ignored the problem until one of my patrons, using an MSN (also Microsoft, so you can see where I'm heading with my suspicions) reported the same phenomenon. My settings are hopefully set up so that members can only receive the postings, there is no provision for anyone else posting to the list (it's not a discussion forum) anonymous_list is set to NO first_strip_reply_to set to YES reply_goes_to_list is Explicit address (mine) subject_prefix is "[Theatre Happenings]" (don't see how this would affect, just mentioning settings that seem at least potentially related) There may be other settings that are germane, happy to provide them. Or maybe it's nothing in my Settings at all. Any help is appreciated. Chuck Puckett http://www.puckettpublishing.com http://www.puckettpublishing.com "I don't want to steal the show. I only want to borrow it for a while." -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Something-is-hiding-Subject-Sender-for-Hotmail-MSN-recipients-tp34393034p34393034.html Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
