Re: [Mailman-Users] Ordering of messages in the moderation queue by date?

2013-06-18 Thread Jan Lausch

Plenty of people wrote:
 I will say that for a list I run, I find the alphabetical ordering
 useful.
 
All right, all right, I get it. :-)
I didn't want to bug anyone or take something away from you, I just thought 
alphabetical sorting wouldn't be used. Apparently I thought wrong. So then 
let's aggree that the optimal way would be to make this switchable.

jan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] fixing a reordered archive

2013-06-18 Thread Matthew Needham

On Jun 17, 2013, at 13:01 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 On 06/17/2013 10:21 AM, Matthew Needham wrote:
 
 Older.mbox contains 1512 messages, five of which contain unescaped lines 
 starting with From . What's the best way to escape those lines and 
 preserve archive order? Is it as simple as escaping the line and adding an 
 empty From  immediately after the containing message?
 
 
 Yes, that should do it.


It did work, but I noticed that cleanarch complained about the new lines. I was 
a little concerned that a future admin would notice the warnings and fix them 
in a way that broke the archives, so I inserted lines like this:

From nob...@hdfgroup.org Thu May 31 00:00:00 2007
Date: Thu May 31 00:00:00 2007

That placed the five empty messages at the very beginning of the archives where 
they're least likely to bother anyone. This is better than the previous 
location at the end of the archives, and much better than the previous problem 
with missing content after the unescaped From. With these changes, a fixed, 
reordered, and consolidated mbox, and a readme file to inform any future 
admins, I hope this problem won't return.


Thanks for all your help.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Ordering of messages in the moderation queue by date?

2013-06-18 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:32:11 -0700 Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net
wrote:
 On 06/17/2013 01:58 AM, Jan Lausch wrote:
   
I typically would prefer to see the queue of messages awaiting
  moderation in time order, not alphabetically by email address
  as happens by default.
  
  
  I totally second that notion.
  I have been thinking about this several times before, too.
  Would indeed be a very useful addition.
 
 
 OK. Since this may be more widely used, here's a question? The
 current summary groups all the messages from a single sender into
 one 'box'. If we sort the boxes[1] by time, should multiple
 messages from a single address be in separate, time sorted boxes or
 should they still be grouped in a single box, and if the latter
 should the boxes be time sorted by oldest or newest in the box.

For my use, I want to be able to look at conversations in the order
that they're happening so I can cherry pick which portions of the
conversation to forward and which to reject. Seeing the messages
grouped by address doesn't help me so much. I can see wanting the
existing view sometimes, but when I want sorted by time, I want
purely sorted by time so I can figure out what to forward and what
not to.

It is potentially possible that optionally sorting by subject and then
by time might be cool, but I really don't need that and sometimes it
might get annoying. Simplest is best for my use case.

Perry

 
 [1] A proper feature would redesign the boxes, but I'm not going
 there, and I'm not going to think about checking in the multiple
 box case for conflicting checkbox options applied to the same
 sender.
 



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