[Mailman-Users] cgi 404

2013-12-30 Thread thufir

I get a 404:

thufir@dur:~$
thufir@dur:~$ mail -f Maildir/
"/home/thufir/Maildir/": 3 messages
>1 thufir@dur.bouncem   15/581   test Mon, 30 Dec 
2013 19:15:31 -0800
 2 thufir@dur.bouncem   15/581   test Mon, 30 Dec 
2013 19:18:16 -0800
 3 mailman-owner@dur.   57/2198  Your new mailing 
list: mailman

? q
Held 3 messages in /home/thufir/Maildir/
thufir@dur:~$
thufir@dur:~$ ll /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mailman
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Dec 30 20:06 
/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mailman -> /etc/mailman/apache.conf

thufir@dur:~$
thufir@dur:~$


even though dovecot-postfix seems to be working well with mailman, so 
far as I can tell.



The fine manual says:

"*Problem:* All Mailman web pages give a 404 File not found error.

*Solution:* Your web server has not been set up properly for handling 
Mailman's CGI programs. Make sure you have:


configured the web server to give permissions to $prefix/cgi-bin"



Isn't there a different URL I can use instead?  I seem to recall 
something along these lines.



thanks,

Thufir
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[Mailman-Users] Folding whitespace

2013-12-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Joseph Brennan writes:

 > Why the tab?

I would suppose because it looks better in character-oriented display.
On most terminals, a tab will expand to 8 spaces, making the fact that
the header is folded very obvious.  It won't hurt anything if you
change it to space.  This isn't going to be a true fix, though,
because IIRC Mailman *does* insert that space, and it will remain as a
doubled space in the recipient's MUA display.

Note that in recent versions of the standard, the handling of FWS has
been clarified: the proper way to unfold is to remove the CRLF, and
change nothing else.  This implies that the proper way to fold is to
find some whitespace and insert a CRLF (and nothing else) before that
whitespace.

Not that it matters, but I think that graphical MUAs are (as usual)
broken here.  They are going to reformat unstructured fields anyway
(treating the single logical line as a paragraph, and wrapping long
ones), so they might as well do the sane thing and interpret all
whitespace as merely a single word separator, then wrap that.  This is
almost never a mistake in my experience.  Not even Pythonistas expect
whitespace to be significant *within* a line! :-)


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[Mailman-Users] Folding whitespace

2013-12-30 Thread Joseph Brennan


Happy New Year (almost)!

Archives show me that this topic went around a while back but I did not 
find a complete answer. It's not really a Mailman bug, but a Mailman choice 
between correct options.


When the Subject is folded into more than 1 line, Mailman inserts 
whitespace in the form of a TAB character, at the start of the continuation 
lines. Outlook, when unfolding, removes the CR LF but leaves whatever 
whitespace is there, in this case a TAB, so people tell me it looks ugly.


Microsoft, Microsoft...

I noticed that in Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py, we go out of our way to 
change email.header's continuation_ws from the default of one space to be 
one tab. Both are correct, since the standard just says whitespace, but if 
we used one space it would trick Outlook into doing the right thing.


Why the tab? CookHeaders.py gets pretty hairy so I feel like I'm missing 
something.


Joseph Brennan
Columbia University Information Technology




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