[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribed members still getting emails.

[Colin]

I have got a problem that has suddenly arisen.

Three members left my mailing list over a year ago and they stopped getting
messages. Suddenly last week all 3 started getting emails again. Their email
addresses are not in the membership list. I have not made any changes to the
list. 

Any suggestions? 

I can't find anything in the FAQ or on Google about something like this.

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[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribed members still getting emails.

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Colin writes:

 > Three members left my mailing list over a year ago and they stopped getting
 > messages. Suddenly last week all 3 started getting emails again. Their email
 > addresses are not in the membership list. I have not made any changes to the
 > list. 

Are they current messages?  Mail can sit in a queue somewhere for a
*very* long time, and then somebody gives it a kick and it suddenly
appears in somebody else's mailbax.

Are they at the same domain?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribed members still getting emails.

[Mark Sapiro]

On 03/13/2014 11:14 PM, Colin wrote:
> I have got a problem that has suddenly arisen.
> 
> Three members left my mailing list over a year ago and they stopped getting
> messages. Suddenly last week all 3 started getting emails again. Their email
> addresses are not in the membership list. I have not made any changes to the
> list. 


Have you checked the list membership for their addresses and possible
alternative addresses that forward to them since this started?

If their addresses "reappeared" on the list, there are a couple of ways
that could have happened. An old version of lists/LISTNAME/config.pck
could have been inadvertently restored, or if this mailman was upgraded
from 2.0, there could have been an old config.db from 2.0 that wasn't
removed, and if the config.pck became corrupt somehow, Mailman would
fall back to the config.db. This would be logged in Mailman's error log.

If the addresses are not on the current membership list, you need to
obtain a copy of one of these mails as delivered to the former member
and examine the complete headers to see how it got to the destination.
If you need help, you can post the headers here.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Notifications sent to main server domain instead of site domain

[Chad Crowell]

Thanks Mark. I do have shell access so went in to give it a try. I found this 
https://forums.cpanel.net/f5/how-fix-mailman-url-after-transfer-change-hostname-107593.html
 and tried it, and it worked. Thanks for the direction.
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On March 13, 2014 at 8:41:19 AM, Mark Sapiro (m...@msapiro.net) wrote:

On 03/12/2014 09:08 AM, Chad Crowell wrote:
> ... cPanel and Mailman. ...
>  
> The hostname for the server is www.cfwebserver.com. This is just used for 
> DNS, nameservers, etc. The site where the mailing lists are located is 
> pack186.com. I have the list administrator and moderator fields populated 
> with my email address. I have the “Host name this list prefers for email” set 
> to pack186.com. People post to the list which are listn...@pack186.com and it 
> works. However when something is moderated, the sender is  
> mailman-boun...@www.cfwebserver.com and the recipient is 
> mailman-ow...@www.cfwebserver.com. Is there a setting somewhere that I am 
> missing that would set this correctly in mailman? Is this more likely a 
> server email config setting?


See the FAQ at .

If this were a standard GNU Mailman installation, I would say fix_url
can fix this (See ).

cPanel Mailman has its own cPanel list creation process that "should"
set things up properly when a list is created in the pack186.com domain.
I can't say why that didn't happen here unless the list was created by
some means other than cPanel's process. At this point, the admins of the
host installation can probably fix this with fix_url, but there's
probably nothing you as a list owner can do unless you have shell access
to the Mailman installation on the server.

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[Mailman-Users] Configuration of New Mailman Instance

[Paul Crown]

Greetings,

This is my first experience with installing and setting up Mailman.  My
servers are all Ubuntu 12.04.  Mailman was install to install from
repositories.

I could use some pointers to where on Wiki, Docs or Archives describing
configuring Mailman.  Most of the help I am reading is for Mailman,
Apache2 and Postfix to all be running on the same server.

My scenerio:

Server W is running Apache2, and my initial config has
http://lists.mydomain.com letting me login as admin and create new lists.
Server P is running Postfix
Server R is my mail-relay for outbound SMTP traffic unique to this domain

No messages are being sent out through R or any other server for that
matter.
No messages are being received by P.  (5.1.1 list-email address
rejected: user unknown in relay recipient table.

Any pointers appreciated.

Paul
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reducing false positives with spam markings with Gmail, etc.

[Cedric Knight]

Stephen J. Turnbull  wrote on Wed Nov 20 2013:
> Steven Clift writes:
>  > Thanks Stephen.
>  > 
>  > Are most mailman hosts finding their mail in Gmail heading to the
>  > "Promotions" tab or "Forums" optional tab?
> 
> I don't receive any Mailman mail at my Gmail address, so I can't say.
> But hold that thought ... if you don't get any response, I'll ping
> some of my gmail subscribers and ask them.  (Remind me after a week or
> so, I've been unreliable at remembering promises recently.)

Reminder?

I've had complaints about this specifically with list *confirmation
emails* being being misclassified under "promotions", resulting in some
users assuming they are subscribed when they haven't actually confirmed.

There are hints about this change at Gmail at
,
that it might be a result of the "Precedence: bulk" header added to
administrivia messages.

Any more evidence?  Do any standards help decide if Gmail or Mailman is
wrong?

CK
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[Mailman-Users] Can confirmation messages use custom Received: headers?

[Yan Juras]

Hi.

I've searched the archives several different ways about this and not found 
anything, so...

We run Mailman v2.1.4 on SuSE Enterprise v11 SP3 using Sendmail. The box is a 
virtual machine and pretty much dedicated to the purpose of being a listserver, 
at least at present.

We recently got a slew of Spamcop complaints about confirmation emails we sent 
as a result of subscription requests submitted via the web interface. These 
emails clearly state that the confirmation emails are a result of subscription 
requests submitted from a specific IP address. Clearly from the user's POV 
these emails are spam and I totally understand why the users are submitting the 
complaints in this instance. However, I also don't think that my mail system 
should be held responsible for sending these emails. (Consider that I am not 
held responsible for damage caused by my car if the person driving the car 
stole it from me.)

I was looking at the Spamcop FAQ and noticed a brief comment about the Received 
headers that some webmail interfaces add that list the IP address of the client 
that used HTTP to submit the email via a webmail GUI, for example:

Received: from 66.191.176.186 by webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.27) 
with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:07:55 -0400

The Spamcop FAQ kind of implies that Spamcop will consider the source of the 
HTTP (in this example, 66.191.176.186) as the sender, rather than the email 
server that converted the HTTP to SMTP. I've not checked this at all, so I may 
be reading into the FAQ.

So my question is this: can Mailman be configured in some straightforward way 
to add a Received: header with the IP address of the host that requested the 
subscription? I am not a Python programmer, but I am capable of making code 
changes if necessary.

Comments?
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