Re: [Mailman-Users] configuring of Mailman UI url for Webmin

2014-12-13 Thread Danil Smirnov
Okay I have some progress with changing of UI urls:
https://www.virtualmin.com/node/35532#comment-141577

May be it will help somebody.

2014-12-09 16:22 GMT+02:00 Danil Smirnov da...@smirnov.la:

 Hi all!

 I've installed Mailman module in Webmin control panel and found some
 problems with it:
 https://www.virtualmin.com/node/35532

 Could you please point me to good guide for Mailman UI url setup to
 change Webmin ugly defaults?

 Do anybody know contacts of Mailman Webmin module developers?

 Thanks,
 Danil

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Re: [Mailman-Users] All AOL unsubscribed

2014-12-13 Thread joseph cook
Yes, it is all aol.com addresses on my list and no others.

13 addresses in total.

the bounce log  (file: bounce) just says:
Date (10938) pac59: address@aol.com current bounce score: 5.0

The bounce count has been increasing since October is seems.
But I still don't know why.

There are other messages in the log after the bounce count is exceeded
Notifying disabled member address@aol.com for list: pac59

How do you get more information about *why* something bounced?  What
message aol returned?  Any other ideas?

Joe Cook


On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Carl Zwanzig c...@tuunq.com wrote:

 On 12/12/2014 6:32 AM, joseph cook wrote:

 This morning all of my subscribers with aol addresses were automatically
 unsubscribed from my list.


 Did you check the bounce log? The scores might have been creeping upwards
 for weeks and just hit the threshold.

 z!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] All AOL unsubscribed

2014-12-13 Thread Brian Carpenter
Hi Joe:

Are you using a hosted solution? If yes, then contact your host and ask them
if they see any delivery problems to those AOL addresses in their SMTP logs.
It is possible the server's IP address may be blocked by AOL or is suffering
from a poor IP reputation. You might want to review your bounce settings
within your list administration interface as the list is only handling
bounces according to your settings. One final note, if mailman is part of a
cPanel server then you can use the email trace tool within cPanel to see
what is going on with those AOL addresses without the need of your host.



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 -Original Message-
 From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-
 bounces+brian=emwd@python.org] On Behalf Of joseph cook
 Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 10:19 AM
 To: Carl Zwanzig
 Cc: mailman-users@python.org
 Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [Mailman-Users] All AOL unsubscribed
 
 Yes, it is all aol.com addresses on my list and no others.
 
 13 addresses in total.
 
 the bounce log  (file: bounce) just says:
 Date (10938) pac59: address@aol.com current bounce score: 5.0
 
 The bounce count has been increasing since October is seems.
 But I still don't know why.
 
 There are other messages in the log after the bounce count is exceeded
 Notifying disabled member address@aol.com for list: pac59
 
 How do you get more information about *why* something bounced?  What
 message aol returned?  Any other ideas?
 
 Joe Cook
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Carl Zwanzig c...@tuunq.com wrote:
 
  On 12/12/2014 6:32 AM, joseph cook wrote:
 
  This morning all of my subscribers with aol addresses were
automatically
  unsubscribed from my list.
 
 
  Did you check the bounce log? The scores might have been creeping
 upwards
  for weeks and just hit the threshold.
 
  z!
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] All AOL unsubscribed

2014-12-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/13/2014 07:19 AM, joseph cook wrote:
 
 How do you get more information about *why* something bounced?  What
 message aol returned?  Any other ideas?


Two ways:

1) The information is in the logs of the outgoing MTA. If you don't have
access to these logs, see Brian Carpenter's reply in this thread.

2) If you set or have set the list's Bounce processing -
bounce_notify_owner_on_disable to Yes, when the user's bounce score
reaches  bounce_score_threshold and the user's delivery is disabled, a
notice containing the disabling bounce will be sent to the list owners
and moderators.

Note that as a result of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1382150, the next Mailman
release (2.1.19) will contain a bounce_notify_owner_on_bounce_increment
setting which if set will send a notice with the triggering bounce any
time the user's score is incremented.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] All AOL unsubscribed

2014-12-13 Thread Ed Ravin
AOL, AOL, AOL - they always do things a bit differently.  I can't fully
blame them as they probably are still the #1 target of spammers.

As others have written, the most important information is in the outgoing
SMTP logs so you can see what AOL said, if anything, about why they are
refusing the mail.

You will also find useful information at the links below, provided by AOL
to help the rest of the world navigate their unique email processing:

http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Troubleshooting.php

http://postmaster.aol.com/Reputation.php

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Re: [Mailman-Users] All AOL unsubscribed

2014-12-13 Thread John Levine
In article CADK0o8yxnQzr-mM=phxpwog+0p0oh+dkztp14z_fvwyhp8_...@mail.gmail.com 
you write:
This morning all of my subscribers with aol addresses were automatically
unsubscribed from my list.

Why today?  I thought all the DMARC issues had been resolved in the latest
mailman version, and it's been 8 months now since the changes at AOL.

--Any suggestions?

AOL has been having serious delivery problems.  It's not just you.

My suggestion would be to sigh wearily and add the subscribers back in.

R's,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] All AOL unsubscribed

2014-12-13 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Sat, 2014-12-13 at 22:04 +, John Levine wrote:
 In article 
 CADK0o8yxnQzr-mM=phxpwog+0p0oh+dkztp14z_fvwyhp8_...@mail.gmail.com you 
 write:
 This morning all of my subscribers with aol addresses were automatically
 unsubscribed from my list.
 
 Why today?  I thought all the DMARC issues had been resolved in the latest
 mailman version, and it's been 8 months now since the changes at AOL.
 
 --Any suggestions?
 
 AOL has been having serious delivery problems.  It's not just you.
 
 My suggestion would be to sigh wearily and add the subscribers back in.

I host one list for some folks who disallow AOL subscribers altogether!
They're just too much of a headache.  Anyone with minimal computer
skills can get a Gmail address and it's a much better ESP.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] All AOL unsubscribed

2014-12-13 Thread joseph cook
Hosting company said The error log indicates that there are some issues
with the server configuration. I am forwarding this ticket to our senior
technicians who will be resolving this issue.

so, unfortunately, I can't provide to the group what the problem was.

On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:

 On Sat, 2014-12-13 at 22:04 +, John Levine wrote:
  In article CADK0o8yxnQzr-mM=
 phxpwog+0p0oh+dkztp14z_fvwyhp8_...@mail.gmail.com you write:
  This morning all of my subscribers with aol addresses were automatically
  unsubscribed from my list.
  
  Why today?  I thought all the DMARC issues had been resolved in the
 latest
  mailman version, and it's been 8 months now since the changes at AOL.
  
  --Any suggestions?
 
  AOL has been having serious delivery problems.  It's not just you.
 
  My suggestion would be to sigh wearily and add the subscribers back in.

 I host one list for some folks who disallow AOL subscribers altogether!
 They're just too much of a headache.  Anyone with minimal computer
 skills can get a Gmail address and it's a much better ESP.

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