Re: [Mailman-Users] delay between delivery to mailman post command and sending out to list

2016-07-28 Thread Nicolas 

> On 27 Jul 2016, at 15:47, Mark Sapiro  wrote:
> 
> On 07/26/2016 11:19 AM, Nicolas wrote:
>> 
> 
> 
>> Would running separate, verbose instances of qrunner possibly give me any 
>> insight, and how should I go about this? Any input is appreciated.
> 
> 
> Multiple, sliced OutgoingRunner processes might help, but the real issue
> is it takes too long for Mailman to deliver to Postfix due to Postfix
> configuration. In my production installation with full VERP, Mailman
> delivers to about 20 or more recipients per second.
> 
> See , although a lot of that is
> outdated, but do note all the stuff on disable_dns_lookups.

After deleting a subscribed email address with a non-existing domain from a 
list without automatic bounce processing configured, for which Mailman 
obsessively retried delivery every minute while ignoring all the other queued 
posts, I see up to 50 deliveries per second.

Just to confirm (probably ad nauseam for the regulars out here) that a separate 
Postfix instance with dns lookups disabled (+ automatic bounce processing) is 
the way to go.

Thanks,

Nicolas


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

2016-07-28 Thread Hirayama, Pat 
Thanks, Mark!
-p

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On 07/28/2016 09:23 AM, Hirayama, Pat wrote:
> I suppose you could generate a list of people to send by doing something like:
> 
> /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_admins --all | sed 's/.*Owners: //'|sed 
> 's/,/\r/g'|sed 's/ //g'|sort|uniq


You can produce the same result with

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_owners

without the post processing.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

2016-07-28 Thread Gretchen R Beck 
Or, even easier to generate the list:
/usr/mailman/bin/list_lists | awk '{print $1 "-owner@"}'

From: Mailman-Users  on 
behalf of Hirayama, Pat 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:23 PM
To: Martin Stein; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

I suppose you could generate a list of people to send by doing something like:

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_admins --all | sed 's/.*Owners: //'|sed 
's/,/\r/g'|sed 's/ //g'|sort|uniq

And that use that to send your email.  Maybe combine it with xargs to do 
something like:

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_admins --all | sed 's/.*Owners: //'|sed 
's/,/\r/g'|sed 's/ //g'|sort|uniq | xargs -I {} mail -s 'subject' {} < 
message.txt

At least, I think that last might work. :)

-p


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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 5:15 AM
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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

Hi,

I'm looking for an easy way, as site administrator, to send a message to
all list administrators. Is there any possibility to set up a
autogenerated list with all list administrators of the site or another
smooth solution?

Regards,

Martin

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

2016-07-28 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 07/28/2016 09:23 AM, Hirayama, Pat wrote:
> I suppose you could generate a list of people to send by doing something like:
> 
> /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_admins --all | sed 's/.*Owners: //'|sed 
> 's/,/\r/g'|sed 's/ //g'|sort|uniq


You can produce the same result with

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_owners

without the post processing.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

2016-07-28 Thread Hirayama, Pat 
I suppose you could generate a list of people to send by doing something like:

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_admins --all | sed 's/.*Owners: //'|sed 
's/,/\r/g'|sed 's/ //g'|sort|uniq

And that use that to send your email.  Maybe combine it with xargs to do 
something like:

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_admins --all | sed 's/.*Owners: //'|sed 
's/,/\r/g'|sed 's/ //g'|sort|uniq | xargs -I {} mail -s 'subject' {} < 
message.txt 

At least, I think that last might work. :)

-p


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-Original Message-
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Martin Stein
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 5:15 AM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

Hi,

I'm looking for an easy way, as site administrator, to send a message to 
all list administrators. Is there any possibility to set up a 
autogenerated list with all list administrators of the site or another 
smooth solution?

Regards,

Martin

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

2016-07-28 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 07/28/2016 05:14 AM, Martin Stein wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking for an easy way, as site administrator, to send a message to
> all list administrators. Is there any possibility to set up a
> autogenerated list with all list administrators of the site or another
> smooth solution?


You can create the list and then populate/maintain it with

bin/list-owners [-m] | bin/sync_members [options] -f - LISTNAME

see 'bin/list-owners --help' and 'bin/sync_members --help' for more info
on options. You can run the above pipe via cron to automatically
maintain the list.

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[Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

2016-07-28 Thread Martin Stein 

Hi,

I'm looking for an easy way, as site administrator, to send a message to 
all list administrators. Is there any possibility to set up a 
autogenerated list with all list administrators of the site or another 
smooth solution?


Regards,

Martin

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