Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing MTAs on Mailman box

[Mark Sapiro]

On 11/21/2016 03:47 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Bryan Carbonnell writes:
> 
>  > Is there anything on the Mailman side that I need to do after the
>  > change?


> Mark S. may have further advice, but I'm sufficiently confident that I
> recommend that you just get started. :-)


The first question is how does your sendmail deliver to Mailman. The
"normal" configuration uses aliases which are maintained manually as
lists are created and deleted.

If you have a set of Mailman aliases in, e.g., /etc/aliases, You may not
need to do anything and things may work fine, but it is also possible
you will get "group mismatch errors" from Mailman's mail wrapper.

You can set up Mailman/Postfix integration. To do that, you should do
the generic Postfix things at
 and the integration
specific things at
.

In addition if you have lists in Postfix virtual domains you need to do
the things in .

But you can ignore all that and continue to do aliases as you've done
for Sendmail.

If you have further questions, pleas tell us how Sendmail is currently
delivering to Mailman, and if via aliases, how those are generated.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list_members when listname has a period

[Mark Sapiro]

On 11/20/2016 11:37 PM, Mark Dale wrote:
> 
> $PATH/bin/list_members -f acme_widgets (works fine)
> 
> $PATH/bin/list_members -f acme.widgets (gets ignored)
> 
> Any clues from anyone would be greatly appreciated.


I just verified that it works for me.

As Steve suggests, if this is cPanel or possibly some other virtual
hosting patched Mailman, the name may include a domain.

I.e., if it's cPanel, the listname could be something like
acme.widgets_virt.domain.

What is the contents if the $PATH/lists/ directory?

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[Mailman-Users] Changing MTAs on Mailman box

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Bryan Carbonnell writes:

 > Is there anything on the Mailman side that I need to do after the
 > change?

The Postfix integration may recommend putting cron scripts and init
scripts in a different place.  Make sure that any such scripts and
their invocations installed for Sendmail are removed or moved to the
locations expected by Postscript.  You probably don't even have to
move them since Mailman is presumably not going to change, so there
may be nothing to worry about, but duplicated scripts are a common
source of problems.

Other than that as far as I know the only thing you need to do is
configure Postfix to forward mail to Mailman.

 > I looked at the Postfix integration section in the installation
 > manual, http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-integration.html
 > and am just a bit unsure if these are the steps to take since this is
 > an existing Mailman installation.

There shouldn't be any difference.  If you're on a Debian system or
derived there may be a postfix-to-mailman script around somewhere;
make sure that is not active.  The installation in the Postfix
integration page you cite is preferred.  And it is easier for us to
help you with any problems if you use that rather than the Debian
script.

Mark S. may have further advice, but I'm sufficiently confident that I
recommend that you just get started. :-)

Steve
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Re: [Mailman-Users] list_members when listname has a period

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Mark Dale writes:
 > Hi,
 > 
 > I'm using version 2.1.23

What operating system is used by your host?  What is your MTA?  Are
you using a service manager such as cPanel or Plesk?  Have you applied
any patches to Mailman?

While I cannot rule out a Mailman problem, as far as I know embedded
periods in list names should work in recent Mailman 2.1.  However,
operating systems and service configuration managers often distribute
Mailman with patches.  If patches are used to improve Mailman's
compatibility with virtual hosting, it's possible that the list's real
name is different from the apparent name, and that the withlist
scripts haven't been updated correctly to handle both virtual hosts
and list post addresses with embedded periods.

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[Mailman-Users] Changing MTAs on Mailman box

[Bryan Carbonnell]

Hi All,

I am looking at changing our MTA from Sendmail to Postfix. The
physical box is staying the same, nothing is changing other than the
MTA on the box.

Is there anything on the Mailman side that I need to do after the change?

I looked at the Postfix integration section in the installation
manual, http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-integration.html
and am just a bit unsure if these are the steps to take since this is
an existing Mailman installation.

Thanks for an pointers.
Bryan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list_members when listname has a period

[Mark Dale]

Hi,

I'm using version 2.1.23

Regards,
Mark

On 22/11/16 03:33, mailman-admin wrote:



Works for me.
Which version of mailman are you using?


Kind regards,
Christian Mack

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list_members when listname has a period

[mailman-admin]

Am 21.11.2016 um 08:37 schrieb Mark Dale:
> Hi,
> 
> If a list's name has a period in it, the "bin/list_members" doesn't seem
> to like it. For example:
> 
> $PATH/bin/list_members -f acme_widgets (works fine)
> 
> $PATH/bin/list_members -f acme.widgets (gets ignored)
> 
> I've tried escaping the period, wrapping the name in quotes, and I'm not
> seeing anything in the bin file - list_members - as an obvious place to
> hack.
> 
> Any clues from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
> 

Works for me.
Which version of mailman are you using?


Kind regards,
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[Mailman-Users] list_members when listname has a period

[Mark Dale]

Hi,

If a list's name has a period in it, the "bin/list_members" doesn't seem 
to like it. For example:


$PATH/bin/list_members -f acme_widgets (works fine)

$PATH/bin/list_members -f acme.widgets (gets ignored)

I've tried escaping the period, wrapping the name in quotes, and I'm not 
seeing anything in the bin file - list_members - as an obvious place to 
hack.


Any clues from anyone would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Regenerate HTML pages for new URLs in pipermail

[Rainer Müller]

On 2016-11-18 18:27, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> If the listinfo URL has changed, Other saved URLs to archived messages
> are probably already broken :(

There are redirects from the old listinfo URL to the new one, so that
should work for the time being. I just do not want to spread any more
links to the old URLs.

> If the cumulative archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox has not
> been manually modified, and it contains no spurious unescaped "^From "
> lines in message bodies (see bin/cleanarch and maybe
> ), rebuilding the archive
> with 'bin/arch --wipe' should not change the archived message numbers.

Thank you for the hint. I checked that the mbox file itself is clean.
However, with the help of the check_arch script I could determine that
the mbox contains mails without corresponding HTML output files in the
archive. That caused the sequence numbers in the mbox and the HTML files
to be out of sync. As I took this over from others and this happened
years ago without anyone noticing, I have no idea what went wrong at
this point.

Based on this I will keep the old (corrupted) archive as a read-only
copy at a different URL, with redirects from the old archive URLs
pointing to this. Then I can start fresh with a proper archive from the
existing mbox files.

Thank you for the assistance,
Rainer
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