[Mailman-Users] from_is_list Wrap Message: what does that look like?

2017-01-11 Thread Matt Morgan
If I use from_is_list "Wrap Message," what will users see? The help page
says "This is effectively a one message MIME format digest." Does that mean
that the original message is going to show up as an attachment in some mail
readers?

What about in Digests? I have to imagine that wrapping is unnecessary on a
digest, so the messages would just look like any other message. Is that
accurate?

I'm trying to advise my list moderators on choosing between "Wrap Message"
and "Reject." And considering whether to give them a choice. "Reject" is
clear and understandable, but will annoy some of our users, none
(approximately) of whom will understand at first why we're doing it. But
"Wrap Message" may confuse everybody else, if those messages look funny or
take an extra step to read.

Anybody who has experience with how list subscribers respond to these
changes, please let me know!

Thanks,
Matt
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple list owners at creation

2017-01-11 Thread Barry S. Finkel

On 1/11/2017 6:56 AM, Julian Kippels wrote:

Hi,

is it possible to create a new list with more than one owner? Or do I
have to create the list with one owner and add the others later?

I'm thinking about doing something like:
newlist testlist owner1@domain owner2@domain supersecretpassphrase

Thanks
Julian



Here is a patch that I got from Mark Sapiro many years ago;
I assume that it is in the list archives.  Note that I cannot
ensure that this cut-and-paste will survive line wrap.
This is a piece of the "script" output when I last built a
Mailman package for Debian/Ubuntu.  Also note that any
owner addresses after the first are not checked for syntax.

-
vm20# cat ~b19141/newlist.owners.patch.13
--- newlist 2009-09-14 11:47:56.046875000 -0700
+++ newlistx2009-10-02 12:51:16.671875000 -0700
@@ -47,6 +47,8 @@
 You can specify as many of the arguments as you want on the command line
 you will be prompted for the missing ones.

+Note that listadmin-addr can be a comma separated list of addresses.
+
 Every Mailman list has two parameters which define the default host name
 outgoing email, and the default URL for all web interfaces.  When you
 configured Mailman, certain defaults were calculated, but if you are run
@@ -173,7 +175,9 @@
 owner_mail = args[1]
 else:
 owner_mail = raw_input(
-_('Enter the email of the person running the list: '))
+_('Enter the email(s) of the person running the list: '))
+owner_emails = owner_mail.split(',')
+owner_mail = owner_emails[0]

 if len(args) > 2:
 listpasswd = args[2]
@@ -208,6 +212,9 @@
 except Errors.MMListAlreadyExistsError:
 usage(1, _('List already exists: %(listname)s'))

+# assign the owners
+mlist.owner = owner_emails
+
 # Assign domain-specific attributes
 mlist.host_name = host_name
 mlist.web_page_url = web_page_url
@@ -246,7 +253,7 @@
 i18n.set_language(mlist.preferred_language)
 try:
 msg = Message.UserNotification(
-owner_mail, siteowner,
+owner_emails, siteowner,
 _('Your new mailing list: %(listname)s'),
 text, mlist.preferred_language)
 msg.send(mlist)
vm20# patch -p0 < ~b19141/newlist.owners.patch.13
patching file newlist
vm20# diff newlist newlist.original
50,51d49
< Note that listadmin-addr can be a comma separated list of addresses.
<
178,180c176
< _('Enter the email(s) of the person running the list: '))
< owner_emails = owner_mail.split(',')
< owner_mail = owner_emails[0]
---
> _('Enter the email of the person running the list: '))
215,217d210
< # assign the owners
< mlist.owner = owner_emails
<
256c249
< owner_emails, siteowner,
---
> owner_mail, siteowner,
vm20# pwd

-

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[Mailman-Users] Multiple list owners at creation

2017-01-11 Thread Julian Kippels
Hi,

is it possible to create a new list with more than one owner? Or do I
have to create the list with one owner and add the others later?

I'm thinking about doing something like:
newlist testlist owner1@domain owner2@domain supersecretpassphrase

Thanks
Julian
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