Re: [Mailman-Users] How to slow down delivery rate

2017-04-24 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 4/24/2017 8:30 PM, Rob Dover wrote:

Is there any way I can slow down the delivery rate so it is below the 100 / 
hour threshold?


Have you looked in the FAQ (linked in the footer)? More specifically at 
section 4.51.


(Unless it's changed more recently, and I'm sure Mark will know, the answer 
is basically "not in mailman, use another mechanism".)


Later,

z!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to slow down delivery rate

2017-04-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/24/17 8:30 PM, Rob Dover wrote:
> I run a couple of small lists and for some time have been getting bounces 
> from my outgoing server saying I am exceeding the maximum # of emails per 
> hour.
> 
...>
> I have no control over the outgoing server and only minimal control over the 
> Mailman installation. Its on a web host. The emails do eventually go through 
> but I get notifications for every single one that is deferred.
> 
> Is there any way I can slow down the delivery rate so it is below the 100 / 
> hour threshold?


Only if you have the ability to patch Mailman. See
 for a discussion of this and a
throttle.patch.

Note that if this is the web host's Mailman and outgoing mail server,
this service is only viable for lists of fewer than 100 subscribers or
fewer than 50 if there can be 2 posts in an hour, or ...

You could try negotiating with them over this, or find a more list
friendly hosting service.

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[Mailman-Users] How to slow down delivery rate

2017-04-24 Thread Rob Dover
I run a couple of small lists and for some time have been getting bounces from 
my outgoing server saying I am exceeding the maximum # of emails per hour.

—

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a temporary error. The following address(es) deferred:

 addr...@domain.ca
   Domain mydomain.ca has exceeded the max emails per hour (112/100 (112%)) 
allowed.  Message will be reattempted later

—

I have no control over the outgoing server and only minimal control over the 
Mailman installation. Its on a web host. The emails do eventually go through 
but I get notifications for every single one that is deferred.

Is there any way I can slow down the delivery rate so it is below the 100 / 
hour threshold?

Thanks -Rob-
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting implicit destinattion even though To: field is correct

2017-04-24 Thread Aaron Smith
*FacePalm*  Well...that's embarrassing.  You are, of course, completely right.  
I forgot to put the actual To: header in there.
Nothing to see here folks.move along...move along


-Original Message-
From: Mailman-Users 
[mailto:mailman-users-bounces+aaron.smith=kzoo@python.org] On Behalf Of 
Robert Heller
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:39 PM
To: Mark Sapiro 
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting implicit destinattion even though To: 
field is correct

At Sat, 22 Apr 2017 10:23:59 -0700 Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> 
> On 04/21/2017 12:15 PM, Aaron Smith wrote:
> > ... However, if I send a message to
> > testl...@mail01.example.com, it
> > is moderated for implicit destination.  Every single time.  And I 
> > KNOW that the To: field has the correct email address because I'm 
> > typing it in myself during a telnet session to port 25!  What am I 
> > missing here?
> 
> 
> The addresses in any To:, Cc:, Resent-To: or Resent-Cc: headers are 
> lower cased and if the local part of any of these matches the list's 
> internal name (which should be the lower case list name, i.e. the 
> list's real_name attribute lower cased), you should not get an 
> implicit destination hold.
> 
> I.e., if the list's internal name it 'testlist' and the To: header 
> contains the address testlist@... in any combination of upper/lower 
> case, the message should not be held for implicit destination.
> 
> When the message is held for implicit destination, look at the Message
> Headers: in the held message view in the list's admindb interface. Do 
> they have the To: header you expect?

Since the OP is using a "telnet session to port 25" I wonder if he is confusing 
an *envelope header" with a message header.

If in the "telnet session to port 25" he is typing:

RCPT To testl...@mail01.example.com

And *failing* to include in the DATA section a line like:

To: testl...@mail01.example.com

Even though the RCPT To is correct, *mailman* still needs the
"To: testl...@mail01.example.com" *in the message itself* (in the header in the 
DATA part).

> 

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