Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 8/24/19 5:33 PM, Bill Richards wrote:
> The domain is correct from the web page General Options -> host_name
> attribute of the list
> 
> The dumpdb against config.pck shows a lot of list members email addresses,
> "accept_non_members", "ban_list", etc.  It is very long (2413 lines).  What
> specifically am I looking for to get the attributes?


All occurrences where "new-" is appended to the domain you use.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Dale 


Hi,

It sounds like you now have it sorted with Namazu, but for what it's
worth there is an excellent guide to install Namazu "out of the box" on
Mailman 2.1.* at:

http://bakacsin.ki.iif.hu/~kissg/project/mailman+namazu/

And no issues with Private archives or incorrect URLs.

/Mark


On 25/8/19 8:07 am, Robert Heller wrote:
> At Sat, 24 Aug 2019 14:20:42 -0700 Mark Sapiro  wrote:
> 
>>
>> On 8/24/19 1:15 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, I have installed Namazu, which will do what I want, *BUT* pipermail.pl 
>>> is 
>>> missing from the tarball I downloaded from the Namazu website.  Where can I 
>>> get that file.  At this point, the search works, but the URI's are wrong 
>>> (local file name, not the proper mailman URL).
>>
>>
>> I can't answer directly, but see
>> .
>>
> 
> I figured out how to hack the Namazu code to incldue a "replacement" function 
> and passed it on to the re-index function.  I think that will work.  (Perl is 
> almost as bad as APL -- the only thing about Perl is that it uses "normal" 
> ASCII, but still is pretty much write-only code, like APL.)
> 
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-24 Thread Bill Richards 
The domain is correct from the web page General Options -> host_name
attribute of the list

The dumpdb against config.pck shows a lot of list members email addresses,
"accept_non_members", "ban_list", etc.  It is very long (2413 lines).  What
specifically am I looking for to get the attributes?

Bill

On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 5:32 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 8/24/19 3:14 PM, Bill Richards wrote:
> >
> > After digging around I've found that I maybe experiencing some kind if
> > config corruption in pck files under /var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman  When
> > looking through the smtp-failure log I noticed errors "Sender address
> > rejected: Domain not found" and it appears something has or is appending
> > the text "new-" to the beginning of the domain we use.  Further
> > investigation shows that "new-" is appended to the domain in the
> > config.pck, config.pck.last & config.pck.safety files.
>
>
> What attributes have these things? Do Mailman's `bin/dumpdb` on the
> config.pck files.
>
> On the other hand, this may be the General Options -> host_name
> attribute of the list. If so, just fix it.
>
> Once we know what attributes are affected, we can say more.
>
> > Previous message:
> > =
> >
> > A few weeks ago are started experiencing problems with approving and/or
> > discarding messages.  I am also unable to add/delete users to the list
> but
> > messages from approved list members work fine.  I suspect either some
> file
> > has become corrupted or a permissions issue.
>
>
> Is this still an issue?  As I've said previously, see
> .
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 8/24/19 3:14 PM, Bill Richards wrote:
> 
> After digging around I've found that I maybe experiencing some kind if
> config corruption in pck files under /var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman  When
> looking through the smtp-failure log I noticed errors "Sender address
> rejected: Domain not found" and it appears something has or is appending
> the text "new-" to the beginning of the domain we use.  Further
> investigation shows that "new-" is appended to the domain in the
> config.pck, config.pck.last & config.pck.safety files.


What attributes have these things? Do Mailman's `bin/dumpdb` on the
config.pck files.

On the other hand, this may be the General Options -> host_name
attribute of the list. If so, just fix it.

Once we know what attributes are affected, we can say more.

> Previous message:
> =
> 
> A few weeks ago are started experiencing problems with approving and/or
> discarding messages.  I am also unable to add/delete users to the list but
> messages from approved list members work fine.  I suspect either some file
> has become corrupted or a permissions issue.


Is this still an issue?  As I've said previously, see
.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-24 Thread Bill Richards 
Earlier this month I email this list with issues I've had approving/discard
messages via the web interface (see below).

After digging around I've found that I maybe experiencing some kind if
config corruption in pck files under /var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman  When
looking through the smtp-failure log I noticed errors "Sender address
rejected: Domain not found" and it appears something has or is appending
the text "new-" to the beginning of the domain we use.  Further
investigation shows that "new-" is appended to the domain in the
config.pck, config.pck.last & config.pck.safety files.  I have no idea how
this got into the files but it appears to me the source of problem.  I have
reviewed the configuration of mailman via the administrative web interface
and it all appears correct (no arbitrary "new-" text) .  This is not a new
installation of mailman and has been in use for many years.  This issue
seemed to have started occurring in July of this year.  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Bill Richards

mailman version 2.1.12

Previous message:
=

A few weeks ago are started experiencing problems with approving and/or
discarding messages.  I am also unable to add/delete users to the list but
messages from approved list members work fine.  I suspect either some file
has become corrupted or a permissions issue.

I also see entries such as the following in the errors logs:

Aug 04 06:47:41 2019 (20501) No such list "aewa<[55":
Aug 04 11:05:13 2019 (28708) No such list "aewahttps://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Robert Heller 
At Sat, 24 Aug 2019 14:20:42 -0700 Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> 
> On 8/24/19 1:15 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> > 
> > OK, I have installed Namazu, which will do what I want, *BUT* pipermail.pl 
> > is 
> > missing from the tarball I downloaded from the Namazu website.  Where can I 
> > get that file.  At this point, the search works, but the URI's are wrong 
> > (local file name, not the proper mailman URL).
> 
> 
> I can't answer directly, but see
> .
> 

I figured out how to hack the Namazu code to incldue a "replacement" function 
and passed it on to the re-index function.  I think that will work.  (Perl is 
almost as bad as APL -- the only thing about Perl is that it uses "normal" 
ASCII, but still is pretty much write-only code, like APL.)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 8/24/19 1:15 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> 
> It is not clear if any of the options on that page will work for *private* 
> archives.  Most seem to be using an *external* third party search engine.  
> I'm 
> guessing I need to write a script (*I* don't know phthon and don't really 
> like 
> PHP) to do the searching and indexing on my server.


Ther HtDig branch at 
definitely works with private archives. I use it.

If you don't want to install that branch which is based on 2.1.29+,
there is a 2.1.16 version of Richard Barrett's htdig and indexing
patches on which this is based at
. Also see


You can get htdig at
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 8/24/19 1:15 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> 
> OK, I have installed Namazu, which will do what I want, *BUT* pipermail.pl is 
> missing from the tarball I downloaded from the Namazu website.  Where can I 
> get that file.  At this point, the search works, but the URI's are wrong 
> (local file name, not the proper mailman URL).


I can't answer directly, but see
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Robert Heller 
At Sat, 24 Aug 2019 08:46:50 -0700 Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> 
> On 8/24/19 5:59 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
> > Is it possible to have a search (eg by keyword) feature available for 
> > private 
> > archives with Mailman version 2.1.16?  There is no obvious setting for it.
> 
> 
> See .

OK, I have installed Namazu, which will do what I want, *BUT* pipermail.pl is 
missing from the tarball I downloaded from the Namazu website.  Where can I 
get that file.  At this point, the search works, but the URI's are wrong 
(local file name, not the proper mailman URL).

> 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Robert Heller 
At Sat, 24 Aug 2019 08:46:50 -0700 Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> 
> On 8/24/19 5:59 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
> > Is it possible to have a search (eg by keyword) feature available for 
> > private 
> > archives with Mailman version 2.1.16?  There is no obvious setting for it.
> 
> 
> See .

It is not clear if any of the options on that page will work for *private* 
archives.  Most seem to be using an *external* third party search engine.  I'm 
guessing I need to write a script (*I* don't know phthon and don't really like 
PHP) to do the searching and indexing on my server.

> 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 8/24/19 5:59 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
> Is it possible to have a search (eg by keyword) feature available for private 
> archives with Mailman version 2.1.16?  There is no obvious setting for it.


See .

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Robert Heller 
Is it possible to have a search (eg by keyword) feature available for private 
archives with Mailman version 2.1.16?  There is no obvious setting for it.

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