Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project (was: Handling Munged From Addresses)

2020-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 3/3/20 6:47 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> 
> Can you share with me (us) the number and size, along with the industry
> or operations arena, of those people who are creating their own web UI.


I have no information about that.


> I honestly don't believe that there is that much interest for that
> outside of a handful of entities (Brian, CPanel, Canonical, and
> LinkedIn?).  I feel like if the interest was greater, we'd see more
> evidence of that in the Gitlab issue tracker and or on the MM3 lists.  
> Convince me that I'm wrong.


By the same reasoning, if there was real interest in porting the Mailman
2.1 code base to Python 3, we'd be seeing that too.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything. All I'm saying is what I've
said all along and that is that I believe that if you want a smaller,
easier to install Python 3 based Mailman, the best way to accomplish
that is to build a light weight, non-Django web UI that communicates
with Mailman 3 core via the REST API and, for Python at least, the
existing mailmanclient bindings.

If you believe some other way is better, that's fine. It doesn't matter
to me because I'm not doing it. I am willing and available to help
anyone such as Brian with implementation of an alternative to Postorius
to the extent that I can.

There are already alternatives to HyperKitty. There is the 'prototype'
archiver which archives messages in maildir format and also the ability
to archive to mail-archive.com and MHonArc. See
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple explicit reply addresses?

2020-03-03 Thread Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users 

My work-around would then be:

Set up an address on my server, say specialr...@mydomain.dom, which acts 
as a forwarder to the two addresses e...@x.com and e...@y.com


Christian


Mark Sapiro schrieb am 03.03.20 um 17:26:

On 3/3/20 2:25 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:

I don't want to break my lists, so I'll ask first..:o)Does mailman do the 
right
thing if I want explicit replies to go to two addresses?   It seems very 
explicit that
the explicit reply address is singular.. would making it e...@x.com, e...@y.com
work?

It won't work. The code uses email.utils.parseaddr() which accepts
various display-name and address formats, but only one address.
'e...@x.com, e...@y.com' will result in only 'e...@x.com' in the Reply-To:.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple explicit reply addresses?

2020-03-03 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 3/3/20 2:25 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
> I don't want to break my lists, so I'll ask first..:o)Does mailman do the 
> right 
> thing if I want explicit replies to go to two addresses?   It seems very 
> explicit that 
> the explicit reply address is singular.. would making it e...@x.com, 
> e...@y.com 
> work?

It won't work. The code uses email.utils.parseaddr() which accepts
various display-name and address formats, but only one address.
'e...@x.com, e...@y.com' will result in only 'e...@x.com' in the Reply-To:.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project (was: Handling Munged From Addresses)

2020-03-03 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users 
On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 17:18 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 3/2/20 1:55 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > There are plenty of people who are still happy with pipermail and some
> > of the other search options (Google, htdig, etc)  What benefit does a
> > REST api provide to church groups, and tech lists like nanog or mailop? 
> 
> It provides a stable, documented management interface so people can
> create their own web UIs to control Mailman 3 in whatever way they want.
> Granted your end user's aren't going to do this, but the people who want
> it can, and more easily than by porting Mailman 2.1 to Python 3.

Can you share with me (us) the number and size, along with the industry
or operations arena, of those people who are creating their own web UI.

I honestly don't believe that there is that much interest for that
outside of a handful of entities (Brian, CPanel, Canonical, and
LinkedIn?).  I feel like if the interest was greater, we'd see more
evidence of that in the Gitlab issue tracker and or on the MM3 lists.  
Convince me that I'm wrong.

-Jim P.


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[Mailman-Users] multiple explicit reply addresses?

2020-03-03 Thread Bernie Cosell 
I don't want to break my lists, so I'll ask first..:o)Does mailman do the 
right 
thing if I want explicit replies to go to two addresses?   It seems very 
explicit that 
the explicit reply address is singular.. would making it e...@x.com, e...@y.com 
work?

  /Bernie\
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