Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble migrating

2020-04-26 Thread Lothar Schilling

Am 26.04.2020 um 19:46 schrieb Mark Sapiro:

On 4/26/20 9:57 AM, Lothar Schilling wrote:

Yes I did check the permissons several times, everything is fine. And
no, SELinux was and still is disabled.


What user is running Mailman's qrunners?

ps -fwwA|grep qrunner

And what does

ls -laR /var/spool/mailman /var/lib/mailman

give?


ps -fwwA | grep qrunner

mailman   7439  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7440  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7441  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7442  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7443  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7444  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7445  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7446  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7468  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7469  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7470  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7471  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7472  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7473  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7474  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7475  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s


ls -laR /var/spool/mailman

drwxrws---   mailman mailman  4096 26. Apr 17:38 archive
drwxrws---   mailman mailman  4096 26. Apr 17:52 bad
drwxrws---   mailman mailman  4096 26. Apr 17:39 bounces
drwxrws---   mailman mailman  4096  9. Okt 2015  commands
drwxrws---   root    mailman  4096 26. Apr 17:52 in
drwxrws---   mailman mailman  4096  9. Okt 2015  news
drwxrws---   mailman mailman 77824 26. Apr 17:52 out
drwxrws---   mailman mailman  4096  9. Okt 2015  retry
drwxrws---   mailman mailman  4096 26. Apr 17:38 shunt
drwxrws---   root    mailman 86016 26. Apr 17:52 virgin

ls -laR /var/lib/mailman
All files & directories have: -rwxrwsr-x   apache mailman

 /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms -f
"Keine Probleme aufgetreten"

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble migrating

2020-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/26/20 9:57 AM, Lothar Schilling wrote:
> Yes I did check the permissons several times, everything is fine. And
> no, SELinux was and still is disabled.


What user is running Mailman's qrunners?

ps -fwwA|grep qrunner

And what does

ls -laR /var/spool/mailman /var/lib/mailman

give?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble migrating

2020-04-26 Thread Lothar Schilling

Hi Tom,

this is not meant for me, is it? My name's not David. Also, my problem 
is of a different kind.


Regards

Lothar Schilling

Am 26.04.2020 um 18:44 schrieb Tom Coradeschi:
David: Your qrunner exceptions sound surprisingly like a problem I had 
earlier this week with a new install of 2.1.30.


In Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py

change line 60
from: while i>0 and (L[i-1][0] in lowercase or
to: while i>0 and (L[i-1][0] in lowercase[:26] or

Restart mailman and see how things go from there.

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On 26 Apr 2020, at 12:05 PM, Lothar Schilling  wrote:

Hi everybody,

today I tried to migrate our whole mailman installation to another 
server.


Old server: Centos 6.10, Mailman 2.1.29, Python 2.6.6

New server: Centos 7.7, Mailman 2.1.30 (from the tgz file), Python 2.7.5

It seemed to be an easy transition. But then I started to realize 
I've run into problems. For example, I can't release a moderated 
message. Also, I cannot switch users from moderated to not moderated 
or hidden to unhidden. The error logs look like this:


Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1] 
Operation not permitted

Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) SHUNTING: 
1587915493.168592+122b90464edb8dfe2a33eb4e84fd036f0943019c
Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: 
/var/spool/mailman/virgin/1587915493.168592+bfc8cbc934795ac0c0d663ac31c3ea3df13e9b59.bak
Apr 26 17:52:18 2020 (11727) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No 
such file or directory: 
'/var/spool/mailman/virgin/1587916338.266272+f1e11334def7f62140a3442c10bd6b56268d9010.pck'

Apr 26 17:52:18 2020 (11727) Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 26 17:52:18 2020 (11727) Skipping and preserving unparseable 
message: 1587916338.266272+f1e11334def7f62140a3442c10bd6b56268d9010
Apr 26 17:52:19 2020 (11726) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: 
/var/spool/mailman/out/1587916338.266272+5c0165dec7b0fdd4e3851688a77b8e31a99b015d.bak
Apr 26 17:52:20 2020 (11727) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: 
/var/spool/mailman/virgin/1587916338.285911+c4b5275fd082841b395994955b37f5f85569bba9.bak


Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in 

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): main()
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in main

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): qrunner.run()
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 87, in run

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): self._cleanup()
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 263, in _cleanup

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): BounceMixin._cleanup(self)
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 137, in _cleanup

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): self._register_bounces()
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 126, in 
_register_bounces

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): mlist.Save()
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 578, in Save

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): self.__save(dict)
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 555, in __save

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): os.link(fname, fname_last)
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): OSError : [Errno 1] Operation 
not permitted


Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in 

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): main()
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in main

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): qrunner.run()
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 87, in run

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): self._cleanup()
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 263, in _cleanup

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): BounceMixin._cleanup(self)
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 137, in _cleanup

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): self._register_bounces()
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 126, in 
_register_bounces

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): mlist.Save()
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 578, in Save

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): self.__save(dict)
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 555, in __save

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): os.link(fnam

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble migrating

2020-04-26 Thread Lothar Schilling
Yes I did check the permissons several times, everything is fine. And 
no, SELinux was and still is disabled.


Am 26.04.2020 um 18:37 schrieb Mark Sapiro:

On 4/26/20 9:05 AM, Lothar Schilling wrote:

Hi everybody,

today I tried to migrate our whole mailman installation to another server.

Old server: Centos 6.10, Mailman 2.1.29, Python 2.6.6

New server: Centos 7.7, Mailman 2.1.30 (from the tgz file), Python 2.7.5

It seemed to be an easy transition. But then I started to realize I've
run into problems. For example, I can't release a moderated message.
Also, I cannot switch users from moderated to not moderated or hidden to
unhidden. The error logs look like this:

Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1]
Operation not permitted

...


It looks like you have permission issues. Have you run Mailman's
bin/check_perms?

Do you have SELinux enabled? If so, try disabling it.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble migrating

2020-04-26 Thread Tom Coradeschi
David: Your qrunner exceptions sound surprisingly like a problem I had earlier 
this week with a new install of 2.1.30.

In Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py

change line 60 
from: while i>0 and (L[i-1][0] in lowercase or
to: while i>0 and (L[i-1][0] in lowercase[:26] or

Restart mailman and see how things go from there.

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tc...@skylands.ibmwr.org


> On 26 Apr 2020, at 12:05 PM, Lothar Schilling  wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> today I tried to migrate our whole mailman installation to another server.
> 
> Old server: Centos 6.10, Mailman 2.1.29, Python 2.6.6
> 
> New server: Centos 7.7, Mailman 2.1.30 (from the tgz file), Python 2.7.5
> 
> It seemed to be an easy transition. But then I started to realize I've run 
> into problems. For example, I can't release a moderated message. Also, I 
> cannot switch users from moderated to not moderated or hidden to unhidden. 
> The error logs look like this:
> 
> Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1] Operation 
> not permitted
> Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) Traceback (most recent call last):
> Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) SHUNTING: 
> 1587915493.168592+122b90464edb8dfe2a33eb4e84fd036f0943019c
> Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: 
> /var/spool/mailman/virgin/1587915493.168592+bfc8cbc934795ac0c0d663ac31c3ea3df13e9b59.bak
> Apr 26 17:52:18 2020 (11727) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No such 
> file or directory: 
> '/var/spool/mailman/virgin/1587916338.266272+f1e11334def7f62140a3442c10bd6b56268d9010.pck'
> Apr 26 17:52:18 2020 (11727) Traceback (most recent call last):
> Apr 26 17:52:18 2020 (11727) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 
> 1587916338.266272+f1e11334def7f62140a3442c10bd6b56268d9010
> Apr 26 17:52:19 2020 (11726) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: 
> /var/spool/mailman/out/1587916338.266272+5c0165dec7b0fdd4e3851688a77b8e31a99b015d.bak
> Apr 26 17:52:20 2020 (11727) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: 
> /var/spool/mailman/virgin/1587916338.285911+c4b5275fd082841b395994955b37f5f85569bba9.bak
> 
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): Traceback (most recent call last):
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", 
> line 278, in 
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  main()
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", 
> line 238, in main
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  qrunner.run()
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 87, in run
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  self._cleanup()
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 263, in _cleanup
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): BounceMixin._cleanup(self)
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 137, in _cleanup
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  self._register_bounces()
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 126, in 
> _register_bounces
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  mlist.Save()
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 578, in Save
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  self.__save(dict)
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 555, in __save
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  os.link(fname, fname_last)
> Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): OSError :  [Errno 1] Operation not 
> permitted
> 
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): Traceback (most recent call last):
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", 
> line 278, in 
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  main()
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", 
> line 238, in main
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  qrunner.run()
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 87, in run
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  self._cleanup()
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 263, in _cleanup
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): BounceMixin._cleanup(self)
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 137, in _cleanup
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  self._register_bounces()
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 126, in 
> _register_bounces
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  mlist.Save()
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 578, in Save
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  self.__save(dict)
> Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
> "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", lin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble migrating

2020-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/26/20 9:05 AM, Lothar Schilling wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> today I tried to migrate our whole mailman installation to another server.
> 
> Old server: Centos 6.10, Mailman 2.1.29, Python 2.6.6
> 
> New server: Centos 7.7, Mailman 2.1.30 (from the tgz file), Python 2.7.5
> 
> It seemed to be an easy transition. But then I started to realize I've
> run into problems. For example, I can't release a moderated message.
> Also, I cannot switch users from moderated to not moderated or hidden to
> unhidden. The error logs look like this:
> 
> Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1]
> Operation not permitted
...


It looks like you have permission issues. Have you run Mailman's
bin/check_perms?

Do you have SELinux enabled? If so, try disabling it.

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[Mailman-Users] Trouble migrating

2020-04-26 Thread Lothar Schilling

Hi everybody,

today I tried to migrate our whole mailman installation to another server.

Old server: Centos 6.10, Mailman 2.1.29, Python 2.6.6

New server: Centos 7.7, Mailman 2.1.30 (from the tgz file), Python 2.7.5

It seemed to be an easy transition. But then I started to realize I've 
run into problems. For example, I can't release a moderated message. 
Also, I cannot switch users from moderated to not moderated or hidden to 
unhidden. The error logs look like this:


Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1] 
Operation not permitted

Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) SHUNTING: 
1587915493.168592+122b90464edb8dfe2a33eb4e84fd036f0943019c
Apr 26 17:38:16 2020 (11727) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: 
/var/spool/mailman/virgin/1587915493.168592+bfc8cbc934795ac0c0d663ac31c3ea3df13e9b59.bak
Apr 26 17:52:18 2020 (11727) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No 
such file or directory: 
'/var/spool/mailman/virgin/1587916338.266272+f1e11334def7f62140a3442c10bd6b56268d9010.pck'

Apr 26 17:52:18 2020 (11727) Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 26 17:52:18 2020 (11727) Skipping and preserving unparseable 
message: 1587916338.266272+f1e11334def7f62140a3442c10bd6b56268d9010
Apr 26 17:52:19 2020 (11726) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: 
/var/spool/mailman/out/1587916338.266272+5c0165dec7b0fdd4e3851688a77b8e31a99b015d.bak
Apr 26 17:52:20 2020 (11727) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: 
/var/spool/mailman/virgin/1587916338.285911+c4b5275fd082841b395994955b37f5f85569bba9.bak


Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in 

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  main()
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in main

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  qrunner.run()
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 87, in run

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  self._cleanup()
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 263, in _cleanup

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): BounceMixin._cleanup(self)
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 137, in _cleanup

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  self._register_bounces()
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 126, in 
_register_bounces

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  mlist.Save()
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 578, in Save

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  self.__save(dict)
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 555, in __save

Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694):  os.link(fname, fname_last)
Apr 26 17:53:13 2020 qrunner(11694): OSError :  [Errno 1] Operation not 
permitted


Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in 

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  main()
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in main

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  qrunner.run()
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 87, in run

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  self._cleanup()
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 263, in _cleanup

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): BounceMixin._cleanup(self)
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 137, in _cleanup

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  self._register_bounces()
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 126, in 
_register_bounces

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  mlist.Save()
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 578, in Save

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  self.__save(dict)
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):   File 
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 555, in __save

Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722):  os.link(fname, fname_last)
Apr 26 17:53:16 2020 qrunner(11722): OSError :  [Errno 1] Operation not 
permitted


 /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms -f didn't give me any errors.

I also tried to fall back to Centos' standard mailman package which is 
2.1.15 but to no avail.


This took me all day and I'm still where I was in the morning. Any help 
out there?


Thank you very much!

Lothar Schilling
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