[Mailman-Users] Freebsd & mailman

[Carl Zwanzig]

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On 6/6/2021 6:21 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

PS Sadly, FreeBSD.org are abandonning Mailman-2 for mlmmj !

?

Do you mean the freebsd.org-hosted lists or the freebsd port? I've been 
running mm2 on freebsd for quite a long time, never from the port, always 
from the mm2 source, so whether there's a "supported" port has never even 
crossed my mind. The only downside is that python2 is legacy/abandoned. 
(Given the overall weight of mm3, I'll stick with 2 until there's a really 
good reason, and there hasn't been one, yet.)


Later,

z!
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[Mailman-Users] Re: controlling spam on moderated mailman lists

[Mark Sapiro]

On 6/5/21 8:49 AM, Hoover Chan wrote:

I have a moderated Mailman mailing list that's being flooded with junk
mail. Looks like back scatter.

I'd like to find out how to block an entire domain



Use header_filter_rules. In the web admin UI Privacy options... -> Spam 
filters set a rule with patterns:


^From:.*[@.]example.com>?$
^Sender:.*[@.]example.com>?$
^Return-Path:.*[@.]example.com>?$

and action Discard.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: What to do when hosting providers frequently gets listed on an RBL

[Julian H. Stacey]

stinga wrote:
> On 05/06/2021 04:20, Kenneth Kron wrote:
> > My hosting seems to be permanently banned by Yahoo and today Comcast 
> > started bouncing them.
> >
> > I worked on the yahoo problem for a week with tech support and they never 
> > seemed to make any progress.   Yesterday comcast.net  
> > started bouncing with an RBL notice.
> > I???m ready to move my mailing list but I???m not sure where to and I???m 
> > wondering how common this problem is and how to select a provider that is 
> > capable of keeping my mailing list of the RBL???s.
> G'day,
> 
> I went through this issue and managed to get off the RBL's and then back 
> on again.

I've seen similar. Worst are extortionists: Sorbs.


> Do you send out monthly reminders? If you do, do you remove those that 
> bounce? I do.
> In some cases I have removed the monthly reminder.

I append an automatic footer with list URL for unsub.
as many list readers too clueless to use headers eg:
List-unsubscribe: ,

List-help: 

> I believe ISP's are getting stronger on bouncing messages and it maybe 
> that you get caught up in too many bounces. I don't have proof of that.
> 
> I also think people sign up for lists, forget they have done so.
> Some are basically idiots and mark your list email as spam because they 
> can't be bothered to unsubscribe and that ends up blocking an IP.

I've had some claim to be programmers, yet so dumb they didnt know
how to mail Ascii to majordomo@ & so self important they refused
to unsub themselves, who threatened then false registered the lists
server as a spammer.

I migrated from majordomo to Mailman, to stop clueless idiots, lazy
& malicious wasting admin time. I never tried the MajorCool web
interface to majordomo.
PS Sadly, FreeBSD.org are abandonning Mailman-2 for mlmmj !


> I now delete any bounced message, working on the premise if they want 
> the emails they will resubscribe.

That can be inconvenient:
- Mailman automaticly unsubscribes if too many bounces in a period,
  the parameters ara adjustable per list. 
- I use procmail to filter bounce warnings.
- I'm on about ~100 lists, & recently had an outage, i appreciated not 
  being quickly struck off busy lists.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Problem with the Approved message confirmation

[Raaphael Mankin via Mailman-Users]

On 04/06/2021 16:12, Ivan Tejeiro Izquierdo wrote:

To summarize Mark and not drive you crazy, what we need is that the 
person who sends an email to a moderate list, whether or not they 
belong to the list, receive the email that tells them if their post 
has been accepted or rejected.
This is dangerous  if done for  non-members. Consider the case where a 
message is received with spoofed header so that the acknowledgment goes 
to another mailing list or to a  giant mail alias. Remember the NHS 
reply-all storm of a few years back?

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[Mailman-Users] controlling spam on moderated mailman lists

[Hoover Chan]

I have a moderated Mailman mailing list that's being flooded with junk
mail. Looks like back scatter.

I'd like to find out how to block an entire domain

Thanks in advance


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